China vetoes Indias loan application at the ADB

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China vetoed Indias application for a loan at the ADB. The loan money was to be used for development projects in Arunachal Pradesh and that is why the Chinese blocked the loan as it still considers Arunachal Pradesh it's own territory.
This move is bound to affect ties between the two countries
 
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we should not recognize tibet as a part of China, and maintain this position, the commies have never tried to keep good relations so why should we?
 

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Agree with that. Overtly start to support the Tibetan movement to keep those commies on the boil. Heck help an insurgency out there if the locals are game fir it. I don't think that will happen as the Tibetans are buddhists and it's against their beliefs.
 
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Sir if you mean the so called South Tibet aka Arunachal Pradesh is definitely a part of India no doubts.
Is ladakh part of India? And i mean the Independent Tibet nation that existed before China stole it to be clear. like this old british map

 

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we should not recognize tibet as a part of China, and maintain this position, the lying commies have never tried to keep good relations so why should we?
Sir, we have already recognized Tibet as part of China during AB Vajpayee's regime in the hope that China will recognize Arunachal as part of India but they never reciprocated.
 

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I don't understand - how does China have the power to veto loan applications ?
 

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The reason for China vetoed because it has been the largest donor in ADB, after the USA and Japan, while India comes next to China as Donor.

Here is the report appears in Indian Express website.

The link and the report from Indian Express follows:

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/at-adb-beijing-blocks-indias-60m-project-for-arunachal/446709/0


At ADB, Beijing blocks India’s $60-m project for Arunachal


Pranab Dhal Samanta


Posted: Tuesday , Apr 14, 2009 at 0143 hrs IST


New Delhi: Days after it objected to President Pratibha Patil’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh, Beijing has stunned New Delhi at the Asian Development Bank (ADB) by blocking India’s development plan because it contained a $60 million project for Arunachal Pradesh.

China is learnt to have held back its approval at the ADB Board saying it could not clear a plan containing a programme in a “disputed territory”. Thus, Beijing has, for the first time, escalated the bilateral Arunachal Pradesh issue to a level involving multilateral institutions.

New Delhi’s made it clear to the ADB that there’s no question of removing the Arunachal project from the plan. It has argued that ADB cannot allow its forum for bilateral issues and link these to its lending policies.

The Chinese move is also seen as a disturbing pointer to what could lie ahead given that the world is bracing for a more “expanded involvement” of China in the IMF and the World Bank.

Matters came to a head when India’s strategy paper for 2012 came up at the board meeting on March 26-27. Among the largest recipients of ADB loans, India had drawn up a $2.9-billion programme in consultation with the Bank and this included a watershed development project in Arunachal Pradesh.

China has used its right to postpone a matter in the board. Given that Beijing’s the largest donor after US and Japan to ADB, it’s clearly using its clout. India is next only to China and is leaning heavily on board members to not let Beijing get its way on this issue.

The World Bank has a policy on funding projects in disputed areas that only requires making a note of it before granting approval. India feels ADB could consider such a policy.

India and China had agreed in the two high-profile visits of former PMs Rajiv Gandhi and Atal Behari Vajpayee that they would not allow contentious issues like the boundary dispute to impact progress on other fronts, particularly economic relations. In 2005, the two countries reached an understanding which included safeguarding “due interests” of settled populations.

All of this unraveled when Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi told Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee that “mere presence” of populated areas would not affect Beijing’s claims. Since then, China has hardened its position.
 

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If we wanted we could start an insurgency. If you guys remember, during the time when the Dalai Lama had fled to India, there was a Tibetan insurgency which wanted help from India (it never got any significant help)...

So, what will it take for us to start stoking a "freedom movement" in Tibet ???
 

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If we wanted we could start an insurgency. If you guys remember, during the time when the Dalai Lama had fled to India, there was a Tibetan insurgency which wanted help from India (it never got any significant help)...

So, what will it take for us to start stoking a "freedom movement" in Tibet ???
Utter foolishness?
 

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If we wanted we could start an insurgency. If you guys remember, during the time when the Dalai Lama had fled to India, there was a Tibetan insurgency which wanted help from India (it never got any significant help)...

So, what will it take for us to start stoking a "freedom movement" in Tibet ???
EM,
let india first openly assert that tibetans should be freed from chinese occupation. then we can think about insurgency. anyway, any insurgency will be dealt with iron hand by the chinese. extinction that tibetans face will become speedier if insurgency starts in tibet.:sad:
 

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I agree its a long shot, and the chances of success are negligible, but we stand to gain a lot, just by keeping the Chinese on their feet...
Gain a lot? We lose, lose, lose, lose...sorry but its just a nonsensical idea. No insurgency can stand a chance against the brutal/ruthless Chinese army. Tibetans will be killed en-masse, Tibetan movement will lose its respect and so will India.

Also, we will be endangering our own state by arming non-state groups. Learn something from Pakistan please! Or atleast learn from our misadventure with the LTTE!
Learn from the wisdom of the Dalai Lama also.
 

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EM,
let india first openly assert that tibetans should be freed from chinese occupation. then we can think about insurgency. anyway, any insurgency will be dealt with iron hand by the chinese. extinction that tibetans face will become speedier if insurgency starts in tibet.:sad:
That's gross exaggeration johnee. Tibetans don't face extinction. It would be better if we don't fool ourselves with hyperbole into clouding our judgment.
 

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