China versus India, A Great Asian Race.

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HariPrasad-1

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Meanwhile, the Chinese became CEO of Chinese companies while ours ended up licking peanut butter out of white buttcracks!!

All wealthy Chines have lined up to flee China provided they get a chance to go out. Chinese are unfit for those top jobs doesn't mean that they becomes CEOs of Chinese companies. Please check the data of US labor department. They have declared the data of professions of various ethnicity. Chinese have maximum numbers of Chefs, Clerks followed by other professions. Indian top in Software , Doctors , engineers and education. Do you want to say that Chinese prefers to be Pizza boys over being CEOs of any multinational?
 

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All wealthy Chines have lined up to flee China provided they get a chance to go out.
Ali Express, Ali Baba, Baidu just to name a few.
Chinese are unfit for those top jobs doesn't mean that they becomes CEOs of Chinese companies. Please check the data of US labor department. They have declared the data of professions of various ethnicity. Chinese have maximum numbers of Chefs, Clerks followed by other professions. Indian top in Software , Doctors , engineers and education. Do you want to say that Chinese prefers to be Pizza boys over being CEOs of any multinational?
Only goes to further validate my earlier point.
 

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All the universities you mentioned has much more Indian as scholars, faculties and educationists than Chinese in numbers and in positions. Infarct, it is said about MIT that it is rum by Mafias of IIT Kharagpur.
Actually I have been applying to foreign universities like UCLA etc and sure there are Indian professors out there but Chinese professors outnumber them by quite a large margin. If you do not trust me just go the website and look up the faculty. The Chinese have a head start over us and they are also well funded.

As for CEOs it is different ball game and Indians due to their proficiency in English language do outperform the Chinese in this regard.
 

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I''d like to remind Indian posters who're proud of Indian (overseas) CEOs --

many of China based businesses are started off or owned by chinky Chinese who returned from the West. Just to name a few, Baidu, Sohu, Dang dang... some of which are listed in Nasdaq.

U have to distinguish those who (most likely as naturalized foreign citizens) WORK for FOREIGN (based) companies, from those who OWN/ RUN the businesses (based) in their OWN countries. The difference is crystal clear.

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and I have to give @samsung11 a friendly warning for his chinky offence.
No offense but why are you offended by some Indian poster in DFI. Chinky is not a racist term. Seems like CCP has gone overboard with 50 cents.
 

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Actually I agree that (ethnic) Chinese are generally (perceived) less performing in steering multinationals that're based in the West, nor are Japanese. This stereotyping may not be entirely accurate though.

Perhaps underlying factors include English proficiency and cultural barriers. Xiaomi boss for example, who had been an shy IT specialist , was mocked for his terrible English accent. Culturally Chinese and Japanese used to be taught to be "humble" and respect "authorities" (seniority). Japanese even were proud of lifelong employment that cherished "loyalty" and "stability" while discouraging mobility.

Instead we see once a Spanish CEO was at the helm of Mazda and Lenovo has many western executives in the ranks.

There have been 19 Japanese who're Nobel laureates in this century mostly in science.

Again iit's not an AAA vs. BBB scenario. Each excels in his own way.
 

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No offense but why are you offended by some Indian poster in DFI. Chinky is not a racist term. Seems like CCP has gone overboard with 50 cents.
It is racist and insulting. Would u use the same word for our NE brothers? Cz both NE and chinese hve common physical features.
Google Chink , definition would tell u its use.
We Indias get offended when someone mocks us ,isnt it? The Chinese members on this forum never insult or use slurs against any Indian members , we should reciprocate the same
 

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Basically, right now
China - $14.2 tr (+6%YoY 2019)
India - $2.9 tr (+6.2%YoY 2019)
by moody's...
There are a lot of reasons to why things are the way they are..
One might be more talented than the other, but the other seems way too hardworking..
 

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Basically, right now
China - $14.2 tr (+6%YoY 2019)
India - $2.9 tr (+6.2%YoY 2019)
by moody's...
There are a lot of reasons to why things are the way they are..
One might be more talented than the other, but the other seems way too hardworking..
Journey of both countries started at same time.
CPC China 1949 , India 1947.
Western concept of democracy isnt suited to us as some people might think.
 

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Journey of both countries started at same time.
CPC China 1949 , India 1947.
Western concept of democracy isnt suited to us as some people might think.
The real change started after 30 years..
China gdp in 1978 was $150bn and India was at $140bn. Per capita was higher in India, on account of smaller population.
I disagree with you on democracy.
'Albeit, the populace must become able enough before it decides for itself.'- SC Bose
 

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Calling Indian muzzies as PAKIS is insulting/racism for some but what u call pakistanis then? :rofl:

This racism card is over used. Chinky is just a common word ... U are talking like 'they don't mock Indians in there forums'.
Chink is a slur used to mock chinese ethnicity , u can google it. I am specifically talking about this forum. Other forums are none of our concern. Anyways its useless mocking on anonymous forums , nothing but waste of bandwidth.
 

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All wealthy Chines have lined up to flee China provided they get a chance to go out. Chinese are unfit for those top jobs doesn't mean that they becomes CEOs of Chinese companies. Please check the data of US labor department. They have declared the data of professions of various ethnicity. Chinese have maximum numbers of Chefs, Clerks followed by other professions. Indian top in Software , Doctors , engineers and education. Do you want to say that Chinese prefers to be Pizza boys over being CEOs of any multinational?
I happen to have a few close relatives wwho're chefs. Of course later they run their small restaurants. U need to understand Chinese have a long history of migrating to America, first as coolies, railroad builders, gold miners who once swarmed into California etc.. Most of early immigrants were not well educated thus they ended up in less skilled professions. Doctors engineers... are quite recent generations. The (first generation) relatives of mine in US were farmers, small businessmen or sailors and their dependents long long ago back in China.

My hometown is one of top sources of overseas Chinese and used to be well known for "three knives" I. e. three professions - kitchen knives (chef), scissors (tailor) and shavers (barber) when they moved everywhere. The hometown was once rather barren for agriculture. As a result millions emigrated to SE Asia, Japan and America for centuries.

As for software, doctors, or CEO etc. these are for their children who're able to climb up the value chain.
 
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It will continue to remain 5000 Km until we decide to declare real range like Brahmos.
Even if we use your 8000km as the range of Agni-5. But consider its structure, tech level, weight, it is still far behind Chinese DF-31 which became operational 13 years ago (2006), not to mention US/Russia missiles.
 

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Only goes to further validate my earlier point.
You are asking about parallels with the Chinese isnt it? Guess what Chinese dont boast of some chinese CEO of a American company instead they focus on their own companies.
Indians getting success in phoren companies is a tight slap on our country. This shows that a phoren country provides more opportunities to outsiders like Indians. INdians do excel and prosper but where???? When they leave India for better opportunities.
This brain drain is an embarrassment for an country like India who aspires to become a superpower.
Who told you that Chinese make their own companies and don't? Who has created Reliance, TCS. Infosys and hundreds like that? If Indians are brilliant and get hired for bigger position does not mean that they don't have their own companies. Indians are very famous businessmen not only now but for centuries. We legged behind because the the reasons mentioned in the article. We opened up our economy only in the time of Narsimha rao. Had we had a visionary leadership right from 1947, we too would have been either No 1 or No 2 economy of the world. Indians are doing very fine in business as well. China progressed more in terms of money is because of centralized decision making and dictatorial regime. Democracy takes time but it lays down solid foundation of growth. The other reason the Indian economy looks less is because of huge gap in nominal and PPP criterion of GDP. Many agencies have predicted that India will surpass china by 2040 or in a decade from then. even PPP revaluation of Indian currency is also due.
 

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Only goes to further validate my earlier point.
You are asking about parallels with the Chinese isnt it? Guess what Chinese dont boast of some chinese CEO of a American company instead they focus on their own companies.
Indians getting success in phoren companies is a tight slap on our country. This shows that a phoren country provides more opportunities to outsiders like Indians. INdians do excel and prosper but where???? When they leave India for better opportunities.
This brain drain is an embarrassment for an country like India who aspires to become a superpower.
Who told you that Chinese make their own companies and Indians don't? Who has created Reliance, TCS. Infosys and hundreds like that? If Indians are brilliant and get hired for bigger position does not mean that they don't have their own companies. Indians are very famous businessmen not only now but for centuries. We legged behind because the the reasons mentioned in the article. We opened up our economy only in the time of Narsimha rao. Had we had a visionary leadership right from 1947, we too would have been either No 1 or No 2 economy of the world. Indians are doing very fine in business as well. China progressed more in terms of money is because of centralized decision making and dictatorial regime. Democracy takes time but it lays down solid foundation of growth. The other reason the Indian economy looks less is because of huge gap in nominal and PPP criterion of GDP. Many agencies have predicted that India will surpass china by 2040 or in a decade from then. even PPP revaluation of Indian currency is also due.
 

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Meanwhile, the Chinese became CEO of Chinese companies while ours ended up licking peanut butter out of white buttcracks!!
How many Indian companies have foreign CEOS? Do you know Indian diaspora sends highest amount of foreign remittance to India which has saved India from many sever financial crisis?
 

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Even if we use your 8000km as the range of Agni-5. But consider its structure, tech level, weight, it is still far behind Chinese DF-31 which became operational 13 years ago (2006), not to mention US/Russia missiles.
What is its structure and weight? How it is far behind DF 31 Please explain.
 

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Chinese experts say that the missile actually has the potential to reach targets 8,000 kilometres away and that the Indian government had deliberately downplayed the missile's capability in order to avoid causing concern to other countries. If the 8000 kms theory is true then India can strike whole of China even if the missile is launched from Southern India. Agni-V also features Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRVs) with each missile being capable of carrying 2-10 separate nuclear warheads. Each warhead can be assigned to a different target. One of the main advantages of Agni missiles are that they all use solid fuel which greatly reduces their launch time. If the missile is fitted to a mobile launcher, it can be launched within minutes. Some of the Chinese missiles use liquid propellant, which take time to launch compared to solid fuelled missiles because of the time needed to fuel the missile.

Read more at: https://www.oneindia.com/india/indi...-powerful/articlecontent-pf29724-2519532.html
 
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