LOL, its more like an unlicenced manufacturing of an X86-64 instruction set architecture with 4 cores that dont even support hardware multithreading. Care to explain what China invented here? If anything, they are a generation behind Intel core 2 Quad.It will use CPUs invented by China ourselves.
Nope. Loongsun is based on the MIPS architecture, it emulates x86. In a very crappy way though. But since supercomputers don't explicitly need x86, it shouldn't matter.LOL, its more like an unlicenced manufacturing of an X86-64 instruction set architecture with 4 cores that dont even support hardware multithreading. Care to explain what China invented here? If anything, they are a generation behind Intel core 2 Quad.
Since you are not sure about your source,why don't you do some google and read?If that node belongs to MW1, then not very long ago. Unless I got the name wrong.
My bad about the x86 instruction set support. Either way, there is no invention here, since MIPS instruction set is again a copy. No "invention" here.Nope. Loongsun is based on the MIPS architecture, it emulates x86. In a very crappy way though. But since supercomputers don't explicitly need x86, it shouldn't matter.
No, I categorically state that I am absolutely sure that the supercomputer in the news article (1st post) is Milkyway 1. Maybe it's also known as Tianhe.Since you are not sure about your source,why don't you do some google and read?
The CCP pill seems to have prematurerly broken its capsule. 560 teraflops is not a petaflop. At less than 10% efficiency of the hardware provided they seem to have much to be desired. When IBM is coming out with a 20 petaflop computer it seems China, and the rest of the world, are falling behind. Personally, I don't see the need for national races to see who can come up with the fastest SCs when we are all just going to be buying Amerikan CPUs and GPUs. If you can develop your own hardware, good for you, but the experts here seem to scoff at the idea.Mr. Vladimir will build us a supercomputer with Xbox before the next supercomputer rankings before we go swallowing CCP pills.:goodstuff::goodstuff::goodstuff:
MIPS is older than x86. So it's not a copy of x86, if that's what you were telling.My bad about the x86 instruction set support. Either way, there is no invention here, since MIPS instruction set is again a copy. No "invention" here.
That is true. MIPS is an open architecture. Anyone with the investment can sell a processor based on that.I was saying that designing a MIPS based microprocessor is also a copy just as an x86 processor design is. Thus refuting the argument that China invented something.
Just as I figured --- so begs the question. Should we be impressed with their ability to pirate and copy for this project using Western hardware?I was saying that designing a MIPS based microprocessor is also a copy just as an x86 processor design is. Thus refuting the argument that China invented something.
If you don't know what is computer architecture,the best way for you is shut up and read other people's post.My bad about the x86 instruction set support. Either way, there is no invention here, since MIPS instruction set is again a copy. No "invention" here.
MIPS is a licenced architecture so technically they are not committing piracy here (just like everyone can contribute to or modify the Linux operating system and sell it).Just as I figured --- so begs the question. Should we be impressed with their ability to pirate and copy for this project using Western hardware?
I was studying computer architecture when you were learning your ABC. This post will circulate amongst my friends as a hoarse frothing rant by another CCP drone.If you don't know what is computer architecture,the best way for you is shut up and read other people's post.
Let me tell you what is a computer architecture.
If softwares is a British.CPU is a Indian.they can't understand each other.But they have a translator(computer architecture)r,the translater can be X86 or MIPS or PowerPC or ARM.
The Brithish(software) give the order,the architecture translate it in to Hindi,and then the Indian do what the British told her to do.
theoretically,any people could invent an architecture.But few software can suppot them.The X86 is most popular architecture.But MIPs also do well.Apple mac use CPUs under PowerPC architecture.
China choose the MIPS as our Loongson's architecture for two reason.The stablity of MIPS is better than X86(MIPS is mainly use in servers rather than PCs),and the software compatibility is better others.(Unix/linux is compatible with MIPS).
Another retarded argument. Anyone can invent an architecture? Then why is Von-Neuman model the only turing machine ever built? Anyone can invent an instruction set. And intel's instruction set got complicated by the day, which is the reason for this alternative RISC design proposed.theoretically,any people could invent an architecture.But few software can suppot them.The X86 is most popular architecture.But MIPs also do well.Apple mac use CPUs under PowerPC architecture.
If china didn't invented that computer,who invented it?I was studying computer architecture when you were learning your ABC. This post will circulate amongst my friends as a hoarse frothing rant by another CCP drone.
Another retarded argument. Anyone can invent an architecture? Then why is Von-Neuman model the only turing machine ever built? Anyone can invent an instruction set. And intel's instruction set got complicated by the day, which is the reason for this alternative RISC design proposed.
The architecture is licensed, the design is indigenous. So while they can't use the word 'invented', they certainly can use the word 'developed'.China licence manufactured it. There is no invention. Get yourself a dictionary. :sun_bespectacled:
Indian IT/Computer industry can keep surviving on borrowed "low cost" jobs, while our neighbour keeps creating new milestones. State of Indian R&D is absolutely pathetic when compared to China.
I think people have forgotten about the PARAM. India made its supercomputer ages back. So people, dont keep criticizing our nation for nothing.
You might want to look at the latest, 6 for India, 21 for China.Supercomputers are developing, and fast- year on year. Indian supercomputers have regularly made the list in the last few years. A ranking in late 2007 saw 9 Indian systems on the top 500 supercomputers list, with 10 systems for China, 11 for Taiwan and 20 for Japan:
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