China, Russia, Pak meet an ‘interference in internal issues’: Afghanistan

[hit&run]

http://www.newindianexpress.com/wor...e-in-internal-issues-afghanistan-1553514.html
KABUL: Voicing displeasure over the planned trilateral meeting between China, Russia and Pakistan on Kabul in Moscow, the Afghan Foreign Ministry has said that it is an obvious interference in internal issues.

The Afghan Parliament Members (MPs) said that holding such a meeting on Afghanistan, without consulting its government is an obvious interference in internal issues, reports the Tolo News.

“Talking on Afghanistan without consulting the country raises serious questions for the Afghan people. We are worried about what the reasons behind the meeting are and want the relevant parties to explain,” said MoFA spokesperson Ahmad Shekib Mustaghni on Monday.

“We are worried about holding such meetings and the security situation the next year,” said Abdul Raouf Ibrahimi, speaker of the house.

“Our politicians only sit on seats, but others talk about Afghanistan in Moscow. It is shameful,” said Saleh Mohammad Saleh, an MP.

The expansion of insurgents’ activities in Afghanistan, however, has always been a key concern for Russia and central Asian countries.

According to statistics from the National Security Council (NSC), nearly 11,000 foreign fighters are believed to be in the country.

According to a Defence Ministry source, currently around 40,000 insurgents are active in the country, while President Ashraf Ghani has said in the past that more than 30 terrorist groups are active in.

Earlier on Monday, Afghan Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) spokesman Ahmad Shekib Mustaghni had termed the agenda of the meeting a matter of concern.

“Talking on Afghanistan without consulting the country raises serious questions for the Afghan people. We are worried that what are the reasons behind the meeting and want the relevant parties to explain,” he was quoted as saying.

Pakistan is yet again trying to be the pimp at the cost of ruining its neighbor Afghanistan.

 

[raheel besharam]

New ISI chief naveed mukhtar is known for his aggressive views on Indian interests in afghanistan....but sad to see russia slowly siding with them

 

[mavles ihctep]

Putin is mad on yanks for their support to antirussian groups in syria. Putin want to take revenge for losses in syria and economic sanctions on uncle sam.I will not surprise,if putin give manpads to talis .But repercussions will be severe for Putin

 

[Cutting Edge]

Putin is mad on yanks for their support to antirussian groups in syria. Putin want to take revenge for losses in syria and economic sanctions on uncle sam.I will not surprise,if putin give manpads to talis .But repercussions will be severe for Putin

Putin is doing more harm to his own country by messing around with NATO and fighting expensive wars in Syria and Ukraine. He is alienating Russia's oldest and most trustworthy friend, India for temporary gains. In the end Putin's strategy will leave russia being isolated and financially dependent on big brother China.

 

[mavles ihctep]

Pakis r fooling whole world for over a long time
Kabul deplores exclusion from trilateral meeting
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...exclusion-security-talks-161227142344221.html

 

[Cutting Edge]

Here is the press release of Pak-Russia-China trilateral talks.

 

[mavles ihctep]

Another article that explains pakis evil designs in afghanistan
How Peace Between Afghanistan and the Taliban Foundered
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/2...ce-talks.html?referer=https://t.co/i8yQhZZVME

 

[Cutting Edge]

Pakistan and China's evil schemes doesn't surprise us but our old friend Russia joining our enemies against our interest for some minor regional gains, is a shocking development.


I guess Henry Kissinger was right all along,

"There are no permanent friends only permanent interests"

 

[hit&run]

I see it as a good opportunity for India. Will highlights few points soon; made this thread for the same purpose.

 

[amoy]

Afghanistan itself is physically not even an independent state.

First Female Pilot in Afghanistan Requests Asylum
December 27, 2016

The shock announcement of Afghanistan's first woman fixed-wing pilot to seek asylum in the US has touched off a spirited national debate on the country's most vexing issues: insecurity, women's rights and mass exodus of young people.

Niloofar Rahmani, a 25-year-old pilot lionised widely as the "Afghan Top Gun" after the 1986 Tom Cruise film on flying aces, was scheduled to return to Afghanistan last week after a 15-month training course with the US air force.

But on the eve of her departure, she declared she will not be returning citing fears for her safety, triggering a storm of criticism in Afghanistan for "betraying" her nation but also garnering support from activists.

Its "insecurity" impacts everyone in the neigbourhood. The neighbours (aka Russia, China and Pakistan) need to take initiative for regional peace and avoid terrorism spreading like wildfire when the very state in the epicentre is just a basket case.

 

[hit&run]

Afghanistan itself is physically not even an independent state.

First Female Pilot in Afghanistan Requests Asylum
December 27, 2016


Its "insecurity" impacts everyone in the neigbourhood. The neighbours (aka Russia, China and Pakistan) need to take initiative for regional peace and avoid terrorism spreading like wildfire when the very state in the epicentre is just a basket case.

What it has to with 3 rogue nations interfering in internal matters of Afghanistan, without its consent.

By putting such irrelevant news articles you think China is now free undermine GoA ?

 

[amoy]

What it has to with 3 rogue nations interfering in internal matters of Afghanistan, without its consent.

By putting such irrelevant news articles you think China is now free undermine GoA ?

Nothing is internal to Afghanistan. Terrorism is threatening everybody and GoA is obviously in a state of inability and incompetence to act on its own. Evidently their ace pilot is seeking asylum in US. Hence NATO and SCO have come into play.

The international community is helping Afghans to stablize. 2 out of 3 countries u ferociously labelled as "rogues" are UNSC permanent members who shoulder extra responsility for the world peace. India, not even directly bordering AFG, shall just back off from SCO membership if GoI is as bitter as u r.

The Quetta Shura member said the presence of a US official helped make the meeting possible given the Taliban’s longstanding reluctance to meet directly with the Afghan government, which it publicly lambasts as a “puppet regime”.

“Taliban believes the Afghan issue is a dispute with both the US and Afghan governments,” he said. “If these three sides can hold preliminary meetings it could create a strong base for further positive developments.”

Taliban and Afghanistan restart secret talks in Qatar

 

[Krusty]

Afghanistan itself is physically not even an independent state.

First Female Pilot in Afghanistan Requests Asylum
December 27, 2016


Its "insecurity" impacts everyone in the neigbourhood. The neighbours (aka Russia, China and Pakistan) need to take initiative for regional peace and avoid terrorism spreading like wildfire when the very state in the epicentre is just a basket case.

By your logic, even China is not a physically independent state.

http://m.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/po...-seeking-asylum-abroad-fivefold-five-years-un

This Chinese insecurity impacts nearby countries and the world should take steps to stabilise China and a failing state of Pakistan.

China isn't bordering Afg and has no business in its internal affairs. Chinese need to take steps in curbing its own internal terrorism and terror spread by its allies. Instead of meddling in affairs of a country far away from it which is just vested interests at play.

 

[hit&run]

Nothing is internal to Afghanistan. Terrorism is threatening everybody and GoA is obviously in a state of inability and incompetence to act on its own. Evidently their ace pilot is seeking asylum in US. Hence NATO and SCO have come into play.

You didn't answer Why 3 rouge nations are interfering in Afghanistan's internal matters without their consent ; as they have categorically objected to it.

 

[DingDong]

Nothing is internal to Afghanistan. Terrorism is threatening everybody and GoA is obviously in a state of inability and incompetence to act on its own. Evidently their ace pilot is seeking asylum in US. Hence NATO and SCO have come into play.

The international community is helping Afghans to stablize. 2 out of 3 countries u ferociously labelled as "rogues" are UNSC permanent members who shoulder extra responsility for the world peace. India, not even directly bordering AFG, shall just back off from SCO membership if GoI is as bitter as u r.


Taliban and Afghanistan restart secret talks in Qatar

State terror in Tibet and Xinxiang is threat to world peace.
State terror in Balochistan is a threat to regional peace.
India shares border with Afghanistan, official map of India confirms it.

We know exactly what happened to the USSR after it's Afghanistan misadventure, Russia is about to repeat the same mistake.

Time for India to change it's Middle East policy, cooperate with the like minded countries in the region including Israel. Russia is fighting a war thousands of kms away from it's mainland in Syria, this is an opportunity for all, Russia must be bogged down into the conflict and bled until the Russian economy gives up.

We have got many friends in the Sunni resistance, particularly the former Iraqi generals. Use them.

 

[hit&run]

The international community is helping Afghans to stablize.

You are on thin ice. Your rants are nothing but moronic excuses.

International Community is helping by taking Afghanistan government into account and by their permission.

Russia, Pakistan and China are not only International community. India is also part of that community and all of them recognize Afghan Government.

2 out of 3 countries u ferociously labelled as "rogues" are UNSC permanent members who shoulder extra responsility for the world peace.

Extra responsibility my dick !! Who the fuck gave Chinaman extra responsibility.

Both Russia and China can shove their UN status in their sorry ass. Them being permanent member is not a mandate to meddle in a sovereign nation's affairs. There is no clause in UN constitution that give right either to China or Russia to challenge the authority of an elected government. Even if there are some symbolic gibberish called responsibility here and there, it is non-binding.

India, not even directly bordering AFG, shall just back off from SCO membership if GoI is as bitter as u r.

India is part of international community. It took you one paragraph to contradict yourself.

China-man when ran out of argument started flaunting its inflated might. I am this am that. Don't forget your history and what Japanese did to you. In Hindi we say "Apni Auukaat Bool Gya". This is a global world India don't need borders with any nation to invest, trade and create positive influence that protect our interest unlike this gang of rouge nations who think they can sit in their Eco-Chambers and make policies for others without having the courtesy to inform or take their permission.

SCO is just a garbage burning dustbin and India is part of it for fun sake. We have capacity to run our nation without being a minion like Pakistan who think being subservient is the only way to survive. With or without SCO we can make bilateral agreements with anyone we want (terms apply). Furthermore we do not need SCO to be friend with Afghanistan.

Taliban and Afghanistan restart secret talks in Qatar

So what ? its their prerogative. who are you to bypass them ?

 

[hit&run]

State terror in Tibet and Xinxiang is threat to world peace.
State terror in Balochistan is a threat to regional peace.
India shares border with Afghanistan, official map of India confirms it.

We know exactly what happened to the USSR after it's Afghanistan misadventure, Russia is about to repeat the same mistake.

Time for India to change it's Middle East policy, cooperate with the like minded countries in the region including Israel. Russia is fighting a war thousands of kms away from it's mainland in Syria, this is an opportunity for all, Russia must be bogged down into the conflict and bled until the Russian economy gives up.

We have got many friends in the Sunni resistance, particularly the former Iraqi generals. Use them.

It is great opportunity to beat both Pakistan and China in Afghanistan. In my reading Russia is neither mover and shaker nor going to invest penny in Afghanistan to protect Chinese or Pakistani interests.

Pakistan is free food muncher all they can do is supply more Pathans as cannon fodders.

Chines are mortally threatened as CPEC has hit the dead end called Afghanistan. Not to mention these three are outcast and no one trust them elsewhere so they have started talking to each other. Furthermore USA beats everyone when it comes to investing money and most importantly boots on the ground.

Hans have yet to grow spine that will make them crawl militarily into Afghan conflict. Russian know their calculations this time its even worse as Americans are already entrenched in Afghanistan as political influence and military mentor.

 

[amoy]

State terror in Tibet and Xinxiang is threat to world peace.
State terror in Balochistan is a threat to regional peace.
India shares border with Afghanistan, official map of India confirms it.

We know exactly what happened to the USSR after it's Afghanistan misadventure, Russia is about to repeat the same mistake.

Time for India to change it's Middle East policy, cooperate with the like minded countries in the region including Israel. Russia is fighting a war thousands of kms away from it's mainland in Syria, this is an opportunity for all, Russia must be bogged down into the conflict and bled until the Russian economy gives up.

We have got many friends in the Sunni resistance, particularly the former Iraqi generals. Use them.

Your boring tactics to obfuscate the topic in hand is meaningless.

On Afghanistan - Infantry forces of SCO members hold joint training

On Russia in Syria - Syria: Iran And Russia Count Their Winnings

Obama pisses your "buddy" Israel off bigtime - US abstention allows UN to demand end to Israeli settlements

On your Sunni friends - China's Shia friends have kept them in check by
Iraq Chooses Chinese FD-2000

 

[DingDong]

It is great opportunity to beat both Pakistan and China in Afghanistan. In my reading Russia is neither mover and shaker nor going to invest penny in Afghanistan to protect Chinese or Pakistani interests.

Pakistan is free food muncher all they can do is supply more Pathans as cannon fodders.

Chines are mortally threatened as CPEC has hit the dead end called Afghanistan. Not to mention these three are outcast and no one trust them elsewhere so they have started talking to each other. Furthermore USA beats everyone when it comes to investing money and most importantly boots on the ground.

Hans have yet to grow spine that will make them crawl militarily into Afghan conflict. Russian know their calculations this time its even worse as Americans are already entrenched in Afghanistan as political influence and military mentor.

Are India, Iran and Russia Parting Ways on Afghanistan?

Russia's weak underbelly:

Russia’s 20 million-strong Muslim minority has become a major recruitment centre for the ISIS. Russian Muslims have joined the ISIS in Syria and there have been reports indicating that the Russian authorities even encouraged some to go to Syria way back in 2011, with the hope that these ‘trouble-makers’ would never return. Today, there are an estimated 3,000 to 5,000 Russian citizens with the ISIS, putting it far ahead of other European countries. Another 2,000 are Russian-speaking, making Russian the second most common language in the ISIS, after Arabic.

India doesn't see ISIS in Afghanistan as immediate threat because of the buffer provided by Pakistan

India sees the situation differently, and for good reasons. The Indian perception is based on an understanding that the ISIS in Afghanistan or Wilayat Khorasan is merely made up of rump factions of the Pakistani Taliban, the Afghan Taliban and assorted drug and crime syndicates, all with a markedly anti-Pakistan orientation and with no global aspirations. Moreover, India is far more comfortably placed than Russia or Iran in this regard because of the buffer that is provided, paradoxically by Pakistan.

 

[mavles ihctep]

As per above article i posted , pakis does not want stable and united afghanistan even under Taliban.main reason is Taliban also refused to accept Durand line during their rule.so pakis game plan now is to keeping taliban leaders under their strict control,let afghans to fight internally for eternal period. Whoever went against pakistan killed by pakis or Americans .when mullah Mansour decided take Iranian help,pakis killed him using Americans .