China Preparing Troops to Fight vs. Indian Army in Oxygen-Poor Battlefields

[lcafanboy]

China Preparing Troops to Fight vs. Indian Army in Oxygen-Poor Battlefields

Chinese troops in occupied Tibet. (Photo : PLA)

The People's Liberation Army (PLA) has taken a small but significant step towards ensuring its troops can fight in the Tibetan Plateau -- also called the Roof of the World because of its average elevation of 4,500 meters -- by building extensive oxygen production and supply facilities in this oxygen-deprived war zone.


The PLA also said it built the same facilities for troops stationed in the Pamir Mountains, a mountain range in Central Asia. The Pamirs are among the world's highest mountains with its highest point being 7,600 meters above sea level.

The western part of the Tibetan Plateau borders the Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir while China claims ownership of the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh to the south of the plateau. The two Indian states, which are heavily militarized on both sides of the border, will be the likely sites of a war pitting India against China.

Units of the People's Liberation Army Ground Force (PLAGF) have been equipped with 165 oxygen generation stations; eight hyperbaric oxygen chambers; 12 plateau oxygen trucks; 4,807 small oxygen generators and 6,830 oxygen cylinders, said the PLA..

The Logistics Support Department of the Central Military Commission (CMC) seeks to ensure the effective management and maintenance of the oxygen production facilities in this high altitude region. The PLA said an integrated military-civilian maintenance network and spare parts supply channels will be established to ensure oxygen supplies.

The oxygen production-supply integrated support will be incorporated into the joint operation system of PLA troops facing the Indian Army stationed in the plateau. Oxygen supply facilities are available by the bedside of individual soldiers, said the PLA.

Mobile and base support of oxygen supply are available for troops in training. The full-process oxygen supply mode in wartime is now being tested.

"A total of 12 joint maintenance points have been set up with technical staff coming from both military and civilian units," said an official of the Health Bureau under the CMC's Logistics Support Department.

http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/112790/20170325/china-preparing-troops-fight-vs-indian-army-oxygen-poor-battlefields.htm#ixzz4cQ3OCSNl

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[lcafanboy]

Indian Govt. should be cautious against any Chinese aggression on border and increase capital layout for defence budget. We should modernize our artillery, a minimum 6-9 SSN based on INS Arihant should be made on fast Track basis and IAC-2 sister ship of IAC-1 named INS Viraat should be made on fast track basis. Similarly Rafales and LCAs should also come fast.

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[Bahamut]

Indian Govt. should be cautious against any Chinese aggression on border and increase capital layout for defence budget. We should modernize our artillery, a minimum 6-9 SSN based on INS Arihant should be made on fast Track basis and IAC-2 sister ship of IAC-1 named INS Viraat should be made on fast track basis. Similarly Rafales and LCAs should also come fast.

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Well you are best in high altitude warfare it is not much of a problem but what we do need is more light SPG and Light Armor .Also we need to build more airfield , all weather roads and railways .Plus get replacement for An 32 and more C 17 and we are fine in Northern border.

 

[aditya10r]

Well you are best in high altitude warfare it is not much of a problem but what we do need is more light SPG and Light Armor .Also we need to build more airfield , all weather roads and railways .Plus get replacement for An 32 and more C 17 and we are fine in Northern border.

WE need something like a-10 or su-25................
100 of such type of CAS aircraft would be enough for both fronts

 

[Kunal Biswas]

They have been trying since a long time, Including para dropping troops at that altitude, Their indigenous medium lift helicopter can reach these altitudes to some extend, but more than MI-17V5.

They have no problems with respect to moral and technology but they lack in experience and strategic heights where IA have.

 

[Bahamut]

WE need something like a-10 or su-25................
100 of such type of CAS aircraft would be enough for both fronts

Not that much required CAS aircraft will require air cover,both Su 25 and A 10 are not suited for present warfare and both are being replace. UAV also do some of the work far better .I would like more armed UAV.

heir indigenous medium lift helicopter can reach these altitudes to some extend, but more than MI-17V5.

More the reason to upgrade the MI 17V5 especial the engine

 

[aditya10r]

Not that much required CAS aircraft will require air cover,both Su 25 and A 10 are not suited for present warfare and both are being replace. UAV also do some of the work far better .I would like more armed UAV.

A-10's gun is the best example of anti armour and anti infantry weapon..........
I am not saying to buy any a-10 but to build something like that.................
Its rugged and has got a titanium bathtub

 

[vinuzap]

india is allready fighting it in siachin and even highest motorable road in ladakh, while they are talking about fighting india is doing build on those

Highest Motorable Road: Khardung la

Location: Ladakh, Jammu and Kashmir

Elevation: 5,602 m (18,380 ft)

If you're an avid biker, you shouldn't miss a ride on the highest motorable road in the world! The bumpy, murky route starts at Leh, 40 km from Khardung la (la means mountain pass in Tibetan), and goes through Phyang. It will take you about an hour to reach and some travellers say that the constant stretch of the white of snow hurts their eyes, but also exclaim that the beauty is unbeatable. If you're not into bikes, there are public and private buses to ply you, alternatively you can hire a car or taxi. You can carry your bicycle in the vehicle and ride it on your way down. While the signage at Khardung la tells you that the altitude is 18,380 ft, according to Google Earth, GPS and SRTM the elevation is 17,582 ft. According to the same reports, Marsimek La, which is further above Khardung la at 18,953 ft in the Chang-Chemno Range, is the Highest Motorable Road, but is not open to civilians as it is near the India-China Road of Control.

Highest Cafe: Rinchen Cafeteria

Location: Ladakh, Jammu and Kashmir

Elevation: 5,602 m (18,380 ft)

Image by Himanshu Khagta

After an hour's bumpy journey to Khardung la, a stop at Rinchen cafe—the world's highest cafe–allows travellers to rejuvenate and also gives them the much required warmth. Besides maggi, momos, tea etc., served by a few army men during the tourist season (summer), the cafe also takes you through the various sights, scenes and stories of Ladakh with beautiful paintings and quotes by the army. The cafe's tinned exterior and prayer flags further immerses you in the Ladakh experience, which a peep outside completes with breathtaking views of Ladakh's snow-capped mountain peaks to the south and that of Karakoram range to the north. This cafe was named after Col. Rinchen, for seizing Pakistan occupied Kashmir. You can also shop at the small souvenir store set up by the army officials. Tour guides and army officials suggest that tourists vacate the area in an hour due to low oxygen levels and high pollution. However, the army has oxygen cylinders and basic medical aid for emergencies.

Highest Post Office: Hikkim Branch

Location: Spiti Valley, Himachal Pradesh

Elevation: 4,572 m (15,500 ft)

Image by Tamayee Pathre

If you're planning a trip to Spiti valley, make it a point to send a letter to your loved ones from the world's highest post office, at the Hikkim village, as a memoir. Hikkim has a population of 600 and each day its post office, which was inaugurated in 1983, handles around 20 letters that take 15-20 days to reach their destination. It also caters to about 50 savings accounts. Post master Rinchon Chhering, its only employee, who has been working there since its inception, walks down to the main post office in Kaza, 25 km away and delivers all posts himself. Even the nearest hospital is in Kaza. In June 2014, a special cover was launched by the H.P. Postal Circle, Shimla to commemorate the post office's presence for over 30 years.

Highest Petrol Pump: Indian Oil Corporation Pvt. Ltd

Location: Spiti Valley, Himachal Pradesh

Elevation: 3740 m (12270 ft)

Image by Rishi Raj

Located at the Losar road of Kaza Village this petrol pump of Indian Oil's is not only the highest in the world, but it's also quite old-fashioned. According to the travellers one can refill the tanks, however, the fuel dispenser is outmoded–it only shows the amount of petrol filled, but doesn't calculate the money to be paid by the customer.

Highest Battlefield: Siachen Glacier

Location: Ladakh, Jammu and Kashmir

Elevation: 6,700 m (22,000 ft)

Image by RNA

The Siachen battlefield was a disputed area between India and Pakistan, with both countries claiming sovereignty over the glaciers due to its valuable topography. In 1984, Indian army’s Operation Meghdoot gave India control over the Siachen Glacier located in the Karakoram range, including its tributaries and ever since then both countries have deployed troops there. Siachen battlefield has been listed in Guinness World Record (GWR), as the highest battlefield in the world. According to GWR, “Almost all of the war's 2,000 personnel casualties (between 1984-1997) were due to the extreme weather conditions.” Due to its low temperature the army at Siachen still continues to face personnel casualties. Siachen glacier is also the proud owner of the world’s highest helipad, which is again used only by the army to refill their stocks.

Highest ATM: Axis Bank

Location: Nathu La, Sikkim

Elevation: 4023 m (13,200 ft)

Image by Avi Sabarvala

In case you fall short of cash while on Nathu La, you can try your luck at the highest ATM setup there by Axis Bank (formerly UTI bank). Travellers and locals call it “Ram bharose ATM” because once the card goes in, there's no guarantee that it will come out. This happens due to the harsh weather conditions; the machine freezes sometimes. And due to inadequate power supply, the ATM only functions during the day.

Highest Cricket Pitch: Chail Cricket Ground

Name: Chail Military School

Location: Solan, Himachal Pradesh

Elevation: 2,220 m (7283 ft)

Image by Girish

Surrounded by thick forests of deodar, Chail's cricket ground lies on a hilltop that was leveled by Maharaja Bhupinder Singh of Patiala to build the pitch in 1983; he also developed Chail village as his summer capital. However, he donated most of his buildings as well as the ground to Chail Military School and Government of India after accession to the Indian Union. During the colonial era, friendly matches were held here, but now it is also used for various other sports like polo and football by the kids. In winters the fog makes the ground seem spooky, but that doesn't stop the kids from playing. It was listed in the Guinness World Records, but the title was taken back because no competitive matches are held here. However, its record still hasn’t been broken. The best way to reach Chail is via train from it's nearest railway station, Kandaghat, 30 km away.

Highest Polling Booth: Anlay Phu

Where: Leh, Jammu and Kashmir

Elevation: 5,000 m (15,000 ft)

Image by Betwa Sharma

2014 elections saw a new turn of events not only politically, but also geogrphically. Earlier the highest polling booth in the world was atHikkim in Spiti Valley. But this year 85 voters—astonishingly 47 women and only 38 men–cast their votes in makeshift tents at Anlay Phu, a hamlet about 250 km from Leh. Sand storms are a common occurrence and the ride too is bumpy and the weather is dry and cold. According to a traveller, the higher you reach the closer you get to the snow-capped mountains and the fewer campaign posters you'll see. As you near the top you'll find small settlements, cattle and people (the numbers are few.)

Highest Tea Estate: Kolukkumalai Tea Plantations

Location:Munnar, Kerala

Elevation: 2408 m (7900 ft)

Image by Kerala Tourism

38 km from Munnar, the smell of fresh tea spread across 200 acres of the 500-acres property entices people to take a 3-4 hour bumpy jeep ride (private vehicles are prohibited) through the hills to reach Kolukkumalai Tea Plantations, the world's highest tea estate. On your way you'll see waterfalls as well as the beautiful plains of Tamil Nadu. Built in 1930 by a Scottish planter, there's no documentation about the reason for its name, but there are stories galore. While some locals believe that it is a combination of the Tamil words kaluku (eagle) and malai (mountain), others believe it was previously called Kuliratti Malai meaning "The Cold Mountains" and later changed to Kolukkumalai.

Unlike modern tea estates that use the CTC (Crush, Tear, Curl) method, this plantation still uses the Orthodox method, where in leaves are handpicked as part of the weathering process, then rolled, cooled, fermented and finally dried. The estate is currently applying for the organic certification and offers various varieties of tea—flowery orange pekoe, broken orange pekoe, dust etc., of which the first two are more popular among Western tourists. You can make your own tea at the tea factory, take some tips from the salesmen to derive the best flavourfrom each tea, or simply indulge in a tea-tasting session. You can also stay over-night at one of the guest houses or camps in the estate and for the adventurous there are activities like trekking and mountain biking too. It's best to visit from October to May, but it may rain in November.

Highest Golf Course: Yak Golf Course

Location: Kupup Valley, Sikkim

Elevation: 3,970m (13,025 ft)



Image by Shital Pradhan

The eighteen-hole ‘Yak Golf Course’, which was inaugurated in 1972, is part of a 6026-yard- long Indian Army base. Located in the Kupup valley of Sikkim, It was redesigned in 1979 by Brig JM Singh, Cdr 164 Mtn Bde, and has been further developed by golf lovers. It was listed in GWR on 10 October 2006. However, one can play there from May to December only. The course has challenging fairways meandering across mountain streams in their full flow and its marshy and uneven ground tests the golfing skills of one and all. During winters it also hosts ice hockey, ice skating, skiing and baseball.

 

[Mikesingh]

Lol! Their little lungs are as small as their chinki eyes! Thus they need these 'oxygen generators' to compensate!

 

[SanjeevM]

This points to ulterior motives of Chinese. We should increase our guns availability and readiness in all these areas. Make the roads accessible by roads, rails as soon as possible. If we can have batteries of SAM's in these areas, Chinese will think twice. If China plans an attack to capture these territories by force, their first wave of attack may come in the form of UAVs or Air force. We should give them a fitting reply and increase their costs.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I have been reading China preparing articles for decades, when will they be ready?
They don't look like they can even fight in a war ??

 

[roma]

We have quality and experience but i think we should be watchful of their numbers

THey are the world's #1 at producing huge numbers of lower quality but in the end
the numbers makes up for the lack of quality

We shouldnt take this sleeping or over-confidently ..... also nothibg like upping the ante
I think many ccps on the eastern coasts will ask themselves why they should be fighting for arunachal which is so far away ...we should up the ante to a wider field to make them feel the cost as well .....it will cost us too but it can be a deterrent

to let them know we wont allow a small fight which they win and then we go back to sleep like in 1962 ....this time it never ends until we get it back

also we should push into pakistan to make ccps die for a country that is not theirs ....
when citizens are asked to die for a country that is not theirs soon enough people begin to ask why they have to give life for that ~

one simple measure is to block their shipping if they try some tricks - it will hurt their economy ad the majority ccps on the eastern coast will ask theire govt what is going on

 

[smestarz]

Chinese can afford to be so aggressive because India nor any of the country that China has issues with manages to threaten China near its mainland, Every threat that China has is far from its mainland. even for that matter Tibet is sort of buffer space.
Chinas weakness is Malacca straight and China sea, if we are able to develop threats that can threaten China near its mainland, they will feel intimidated, and that is what exactly USA did and so China is in check. It has threat from Indias nuclear arsenal,. but if its conventional war, then China has more advantage than India with the Indian threat more predictable. But Chines threat is more unpredictable specially as it would also as the Naval aspect.

Indian Govt. should be cautious against any Chinese aggression on border and increase capital layout for defence budget. We should modernize our artillery, a minimum 6-9 SSN based on INS Arihant should be made on fast Track basis and IAC-2 sister ship of IAC-1 named INS Viraat should be made on fast track basis. Similarly Rafales and LCAs should also come fast.

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[SanjeevM]

Why don't we citizens at our level start discouraging Chinese brands. I am looking for a led tv. I have decided to go for samsung or Sony and avoid Chinese brands. Similarly if everyone can take conscious decision, it will definitely hurt China. I feel glad that I did my part.

Yes we should not take these signs lightly and should hurt China badly and destroy their infrastructure in these areas if they take first step in attacking us. They should feel the cost. China may want to attack India just to convey a tough lesson to it's neighbors in SCS to follow Chinese hegemony. So India should prepare well.

 

[sthf]

That's a smart move by China. Since PLA lacks the so called "sons of soil" aka soldiers native to high altitude regions, this can slightly blunt IA's edge. Not much of an equalizer but a good plan. On the other hand the bureaucratic nightmare that is the MOD is sitting comfortably with thumbs up it's ass.

If I remember correctly, Chinese didn't lose a single man due to altitude related sickness during the construction of Tibet railways. Could be true or could be the good old commie propaganda.

 

[roma]

Chinese can afford to be so aggressive because India nor any of the country that China has issues with manages to threaten China near its mainland, Every threat that China has is far from its mainland. even for that matter Tibet is sort of buffer space.
Chinas weakness is Malacca straight and China sea, if we are able to develop threats that can threaten China near its mainland, they will feel intimidated, and that is what exactly USA did and so China is in check. It has threat from Indias nuclear arsenal,. but if its conventional war, then China has more advantage than India with the Indian threat more predictable. But Chines threat is more unpredictable specially as it would also as the Naval aspect.

If they go too far we can blast their beauty Gwadar port ....never mind straits of malacca ....we could leave that one alone because MStr is full of international shipping and a blockage there would bring in others unnecessarily

Gwadar otoh is in open seas without any geographical constriction ..... if we whack Gwadar WE KILL THREE BIRDS with one stone ...... first we deplete PLAN strength in the region , second we give a good one to packland and third the CPEC become most vulnerable and investor other than cpchina and packland will be most hesitant to re-invest in it