China prepared to make concessions in Aksai Chin if India gives up Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh

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Dalai Lama: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

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Dalai Lama: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

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some f these Brits /English think they are so clever

Actually they are just showing the whole world how disrespectful and stupid they are !

 

[aliyah]

well we can give some part of bihar if they are willing to give Shanghai . + if they are giving alibaba to india then in return we can give lalu,digvijay,mamta etc (40chor) to them

 

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well we can give some part of bihar if they are willing to give Shanghai . + if they are giving alibaba to india then in return we can give lalu,digvijay,mamta etc (40chor) to them

we will give kejriwal if they give alibaba...kejriwal 40 chor se kam hai ke

 

[HariPrasad-1]

If the Chinese side takes care of India's concern and withdraw from Independent Tibet, Kailash Mansarovar, Sakshgam Valley, Aksai Chin, Sikkim, and SCS islands, Indian side will respond accordingly and address China's concern in Tawang. :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

Else we have nice middle finger to show China.

@sayareakd @ Kunal Biswas @pmaitra @amogha varsha @wofpack86 @Kshatriya87 @Hari Prasad 1 @Indx TechStyle @Mikesingh @all

The core issue of all problem is that all disputed territory with china is occupied territory and all so called disputed territory of India is falsely claimed by china and china never owned that territory. They were infcat never disputed territory

 

[Pushyamitra]

well, I dont care about Leh or Much of North East because i have Nothing in common with them both Racially and Culturally. they are Alien to me since birth if Indic Civilizations. even Historically Both Regions were Out side of Our Influence. it was only due to British we got these Lands and people in our Nation.

it's worthless to Spend our Precious Blood for these aliens.unless, we plan to colonize that piece of Land.


https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-North-East-people-want-to-seperate-from-India

Race,Religion,Language and Culture are the main pillars of any Modern Nation. take out one of these and you will get Separatist Movements in your Country.

we have Separatist movement in NE why ? because those people have nothing in common with Average Raj of North. they are different to Raj by Race,Religion,Culture and Language. even their Language and Race is not Caucasoid.

other hand we have no Separatist Movements in Haryana,Rajasthan,Gujarat,UP,MP,Bihar and Bengal. why ? do the Math.

My Brothers do not Forget that India stands for Indians, India is Land of Indians,Indics.Indo-Aryans and most of our People are united by Common Ancestry(Race),Religion,culture,History,Way of life and Language Family, our Racial Nation Is shaped by our 5000 Year old Harrapa and Vedic Civilizations.

I will Take Smaller But Stronger Germany over Weak and Artificial Soviet union any day, Everyday.



Just one of my Radical Views. as long as i am alive i will do everything to make sure Indian Race will survive and India will become Great again. one day the Red Banner with Om and swastika will Rise again.

 

[alphacentury]

well we can give some part of bihar if they are willing to give Shanghai . + if they are giving alibaba to india then in return we can give lalu,digvijay,mamta etc (40chor) to them

well, I dont care about Leh or Much of North East because i have Nothing in common with them both Racially and Culturally. they are Alien to me since birth if Indic Civilizations. even Historically Both Regions were Out side of Our Influence. it was only due to British we got these Lands and people in our Nation.

it's worthless to Spend our Precious Blood for these aliens.unless, we plan to colonize that piece of Land.


https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-North-East-people-want-to-seperate-from-India

Race,Religion,Language and Culture are the main pillars of any Modern Nation. take out one of these and you will get Separatist Movements in your Country.

we have Separatist movement in NE why ? because those people have nothing in common with Average Raj of North. they are different to Raj by Race,Religion,Culture and Language. even their Language and Race is not Caucasoid.

other hand we have no Separatist Movements in Haryana,Rajasthan,Gujarat,UP,MP,Bihar and Bengal. why ? do the Math.

My Brothers do not Forget that India stands for Indians, India is Land of Indians,Indics.Indo-Aryans and most of our People are united by Common Ancestry(Race),Religion,culture,History,Way of life and Language Family, our Racial Nation Is shaped by our 5000 Year old Harrapa and Vedic Civilizations.

I will Take Smaller But Stronger Germany over Weak and Artificial Soviet union any day, Everyday.



Just one of my Radical Views. as long as i am alive i will do everything to make sure Indian Race will survive and India will become Great again. one day the Red Banner with Om and swastika will Rise again.

Hahahahahaha.............kisko chuttad bana rha he sale?

 

[mahesh]

Even if there is a small land of tibet created between china and pakistan, we have defeated them both

 

[Krusty]

we will give kejriwal if they give alibaba...kejriwal 40 chor se kam hai ke

And We will give pappu for Sinopec. He will empower china.

We will throw in Sonia too free with the deal.

 

[SanjeevM]

well, I dont care about Leh or Much of North East because i have Nothing in common with them both Racially and Culturally. they are Alien to me since birth if Indic Civilizations. even Historically Both Regions were Out side of Our Influence. it was only due to British we got these Lands and people in our Nation.

it's worthless to Spend our Precious Blood for these aliens.unless, we plan to colonize that piece of Land.


https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-North-East-people-want-to-seperate-from-India
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Totally disagree with this view point. India is a cultural mix. People in Kashmir, punjab, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Karnataka, Tamil nadu, Kerala, Telangana, Assam, Mizoram etc are all different from one another. India is a union of all states. It's like all the states are different parts of the body of India. If you don't like your left hand, got don't cut it off or let your enemies cut your left hand off. Your whole body will feel the pain, if you let that happen. North east and all the states and all people belong to India and are part of India. So kindly do not encourage such talks of alienating north eastern brothers.

 

[Pushyamitra]

Totally disagree with this view point. India is a cultural mix. People in Kashmir, punjab, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Karnataka, Tamil nadu, Kerala, Telangana, Assam, Mizoram etc are all different from one another. India is a union of all states. It's like all the states are different parts of the body of India. If you don't like your left hand, got don't cut it off or let your enemies cut your left hand off. Your whole body will feel the pain, if you let that happen. North east and all the states and all people belong to India and are part of India. So kindly do not encourage such talks of alienating north eastern brothers.

I accept your views but respectfully dosagdisagree with it.

 

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• China’s Warning To India : Give Us Tawang, Or Else
  
  
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India-China relations have broadened over the years with not a single shot fired along the disputed borders since the signing of the Peace and Tranquillity Treaty between the two sides. Military exchanges and other high level visits have become a regular affair. There is convergence of interest in several regional and international affairs.

But there are many sticking points which impinge upon India’s core interests. The latest is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh and its capital Tawang, on India’s border with Tibet, which China claims as its Autonomous Region under China’s sovereignty. India endorsed this position in 2003 when Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee visited China.

In an interview with a Beijing based publication recently, Dai Bingguo, a former high ranking diplomat and communist party leader said, “The major reason the boundary question persists is that China’s reasonable requests (for Tawang) have not been met (by India) … if the Indian side takes care of China’s concerns on the eastern section of the border, the Chinese side will respond accordingly and address India’s concerns elsewhere”.

Responding to news from India that the 14th Dalai Lama will be allowed to visit Tawang in March as a pilgrim and the junior minister for Home Affairs of the central government Kiran Rijiju will be there to receive him, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang issued (March 03) a warning to India. Geng said “China is gravely concerned” over this development, holding out the threat that the Dalai Lama’s visit to Tawang will “cause serious damage to peace and stability of the border region and China-India relations”.

Geng Shuang’s statement is the official position of the Chinese government, which is governed by the communist party of China. How serious is China about this threat? When they challenge India in the words of the foreign ministry, do they say if the Dalai Lama visits Arunachal Pradesh, the agreement of the 1993 Peace and Tranquillity Treaty, the Confidence Building Measures and the 2005 agreement of political modalities for settling the border issue will be torn to bits? In none of these treaties and agreements has the question of the Dalai Lama been mentioned. Gradually the Chinese authorities began protesting against visits of Indian leaders including the visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to Arunachal Pradesh. That too, in sharp words.

The sharp edge and aggressive posture of the Chinese foreign ministry was quickly toned down the next day by the spokeswoman of the ongoing annual National People’s Congress (NPC), Fu Ying. At a press conference for the NPC Fu specifically addressed India-China relations and how it had broadly expanded over the years in a large number of areas from trade to military and frequent high level exchanges to consensus on regional and international issues. She agreed that while some disputes remain, they have been properly discussed through diplomatic channels. She appealed for more understanding of each other and not let disputes stand in the way of cooperation.

Three statements on India by three different high level Chinese officials in different tones make things very interesting in the context of India-China relations. Nobody in China speaks on such important issues without clearance of every word from a sufficiently high level. Are there two views on India among the Communist Party Central Committee and its politburo? This is very unlikely in foreign policy. Or did the South Asia Division of the Chinese foreign ministry overstep their brief, given their long time close relations with Pakistan? Because, it appears, they have been pulled back. Or, is it the old blow hot, blow cold policy?

Dai Bingguo’s proposal on Tawang is not new. It has been held out before and allowed to cool or taken back like some others on the border issue. Clear parameters have never been stated as to what they will cede in the Western Sector. If India agrees to a discussions do not go China’s way, they can withdraw on the grounds that it was only a thought or an idea, and Dai was not the government’s official representative. If anyone believes that China may be willing to opt for Tawang only and give up its claim over the rest of Arunachal Pradesh, which it now calls South Tibet, is day dreaming on the beaches of Hawaii.

According to the 2005 agreement on political modalities for reserving the border issue between the two countries, no populated areas on either side will be transferred. Tawang has a settled population. Since the signing of this agreement China has been trying to either eliminate or dilute this particular clause by some means or the other. The danger is that if one agreement is tampered with, others will follow. Whatever has been achieved since late Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi’s path breaking visit to China in 1988, late Prime Minister Narasimha Rao’s visit in 1993, and Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee’s in 2003, and other confidence building measures, all will begin to unravel. Back to 1962 is not wanted by either of the two countries, or the regional and international actors.

China’s argument that since the 6th Dalai Lama Tsangyang Gyatso was born in Tawang, it is close to the hearts and religious sentiments of the Tibetan people, and India should make this concession. According to Tibetan Buddhism, the Dalai Lama may be born anywhere but his seat is at the Drepung Monanstery in Lhasa, Tibet. It is a Gelug School of Mahayana Buddhism tradition.

The Tawang monastery, known as the Galden Namgey Lhatse Monastery in Tibetan, was founded by Lama Lodre Gyatso in 1680-81 according to the wishes of the 5th Dalai Lama, Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso. It is also the seat of the Karma-Kargyu sect. The Galden monastery had a religious association with the Drepung monastery that is all.

China, simply, does not have any claim on Tawang. Under such specious arguments the Vatican can claim all Roman Catholic countries.

The Global Times (March 6), a mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, placed further pressure on the 14th Dalai Lama’s upcoming pilgrimage to Tawang. The commentary by Yu Ning said “These Indian officials apparently didn’t realize, or deliberately ignored, the severe consequences the Dalai Lama’s trip (to Tawang) would bring”. The words are not only misleading but also disparaging about Indian officials. This is a handover from the Maoist era when intemperate language was used against foreign countries and leaders.

The commentary went on to say that “Leveraging the Dalai Lama issue to undermine Beijing’s core interest (emphasis added) risks dragging the two countries into a state of hostility”.

These comments come at a time when the two sessions of the CPPCC and NPC are being held in the capital, Beijing, to have the maximum impact on the large number of deputies gathered. India has not given the Dalai Lama any privilege which was not accorded to him earlier. The only difference is that India used to sweep Chinese attacks under the carpet in the interest of stability and promoting good relations. The Indian people are no longer willing to suffer the Chinese onslaughts. The Dalai Lama is a highly revered spiritual leader.

China appears to be very frustrated with India’s disinclination to join the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and their “One Road, One Belt” (OBOR) initiative. Persuasive pressure through diplomatic channels and media offensive on India has sharply increased. India has its own foreign policy and economic policy interest, and improving relations with China is one of them. And this is in China’s interest, too.

Raising the temperature at this time is an ill- advised move. India has its own core interests and strategic interests. China is yet to address them positively.

 

[anoop_mig25]

China would never give aksai chin

Wording says its concession

Might they part of land which might not be strategically important for thrm

I donot think they would give their route connecting tibet with east turkestan/Xinjiang

 

[SanjeevM]

• China’s Warning To India : Give Us Tawang, Or Else
  
  
• 

India-China relations have broadened over the years with not a single shot fired along the disputed borders since the signing of the Peace and Tranquillity Treaty between the two sides. Military exchanges and other high level visits have become a regular affair. There is convergence of interest in several regional and international affairs.

But there are many sticking points which impinge upon India’s core interests. The latest is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh and its capital Tawang, on India’s border with Tibet, which China claims as its Autonomous Region under China’s sovereignty. India endorsed this position in 2003 when Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee visited China.

In an interview with a Beijing based publication recently, Dai Bingguo, a former high ranking diplomat and communist party leader said, “The major reason the boundary question persists is that China’s reasonable requests (for Tawang) have not been met (by India) … if the Indian side takes care of China’s concerns on the eastern section of the border, the Chinese side will respond accordingly and address India’s concerns elsewhere”.

Responding to news from India that the 14th Dalai Lama will be allowed to visit Tawang in March as a pilgrim and the junior minister for Home Affairs of the central government Kiran Rijiju will be there to receive him, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang issued (March 03) a warning to India. Geng said “China is gravely concerned” over this development, holding out the threat that the Dalai Lama’s visit to Tawang will “cause serious damage to peace and stability of the border region and China-India relations”.

Geng Shuang’s statement is the official position of the Chinese government, which is governed by the communist party of China. How serious is China about this threat? When they challenge India in the words of the foreign ministry, do they say if the Dalai Lama visits Arunachal Pradesh, the agreement of the 1993 Peace and Tranquillity Treaty, the Confidence Building Measures and the 2005 agreement of political modalities for settling the border issue will be torn to bits? In none of these treaties and agreements has the question of the Dalai Lama been mentioned. Gradually the Chinese authorities began protesting against visits of Indian leaders including the visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to Arunachal Pradesh. That too, in sharp words.

The sharp edge and aggressive posture of the Chinese foreign ministry was quickly toned down the next day by the spokeswoman of the ongoing annual National People’s Congress (NPC), Fu Ying. At a press conference for the NPC Fu specifically addressed India-China relations and how it had broadly expanded over the years in a large number of areas from trade to military and frequent high level exchanges to consensus on regional and international issues. She agreed that while some disputes remain, they have been properly discussed through diplomatic channels. She appealed for more understanding of each other and not let disputes stand in the way of cooperation.

Three statements on India by three different high level Chinese officials in different tones make things very interesting in the context of India-China relations. Nobody in China speaks on such important issues without clearance of every word from a sufficiently high level. Are there two views on India among the Communist Party Central Committee and its politburo? This is very unlikely in foreign policy. Or did the South Asia Division of the Chinese foreign ministry overstep their brief, given their long time close relations with Pakistan? Because, it appears, they have been pulled back. Or, is it the old blow hot, blow cold policy?

Dai Bingguo’s proposal on Tawang is not new. It has been held out before and allowed to cool or taken back like some others on the border issue. Clear parameters have never been stated as to what they will cede in the Western Sector. If India agrees to a discussions do not go China’s way, they can withdraw on the grounds that it was only a thought or an idea, and Dai was not the government’s official representative. If anyone believes that China may be willing to opt for Tawang only and give up its claim over the rest of Arunachal Pradesh, which it now calls South Tibet, is day dreaming on the beaches of Hawaii.

According to the 2005 agreement on political modalities for reserving the border issue between the two countries, no populated areas on either side will be transferred. Tawang has a settled population. Since the signing of this agreement China has been trying to either eliminate or dilute this particular clause by some means or the other. The danger is that if one agreement is tampered with, others will follow. Whatever has been achieved since late Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi’s path breaking visit to China in 1988, late Prime Minister Narasimha Rao’s visit in 1993, and Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee’s in 2003, and other confidence building measures, all will begin to unravel. Back to 1962 is not wanted by either of the two countries, or the regional and international actors.

China’s argument that since the 6th Dalai Lama Tsangyang Gyatso was born in Tawang, it is close to the hearts and religious sentiments of the Tibetan people, and India should make this concession. According to Tibetan Buddhism, the Dalai Lama may be born anywhere but his seat is at the Drepung Monanstery in Lhasa, Tibet. It is a Gelug School of Mahayana Buddhism tradition.

The Tawang monastery, known as the Galden Namgey Lhatse Monastery in Tibetan, was founded by Lama Lodre Gyatso in 1680-81 according to the wishes of the 5th Dalai Lama, Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso. It is also the seat of the Karma-Kargyu sect. The Galden monastery had a religious association with the Drepung monastery that is all.

China, simply, does not have any claim on Tawang. Under such specious arguments the Vatican can claim all Roman Catholic countries.

The Global Times (March 6), a mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, placed further pressure on the 14th Dalai Lama’s upcoming pilgrimage to Tawang. The commentary by Yu Ning said “These Indian officials apparently didn’t realize, or deliberately ignored, the severe consequences the Dalai Lama’s trip (to Tawang) would bring”. The words are not only misleading but also disparaging about Indian officials. This is a handover from the Maoist era when intemperate language was used against foreign countries and leaders.

The commentary went on to say that “Leveraging the Dalai Lama issue to undermine Beijing’s core interest (emphasis added) risks dragging the two countries into a state of hostility”.

These comments come at a time when the two sessions of the CPPCC and NPC are being held in the capital, Beijing, to have the maximum impact on the large number of deputies gathered. India has not given the Dalai Lama any privilege which was not accorded to him earlier. The only difference is that India used to sweep Chinese attacks under the carpet in the interest of stability and promoting good relations. The Indian people are no longer willing to suffer the Chinese onslaughts. The Dalai Lama is a highly revered spiritual leader.

China appears to be very frustrated with India’s disinclination to join the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and their “One Road, One Belt” (OBOR) initiative. Persuasive pressure through diplomatic channels and media offensive on India has sharply increased. India has its own foreign policy and economic policy interest, and improving relations with China is one of them. And this is in China’s interest, too.

Raising the temperature at this time is an ill- advised move. India has its own core interests and strategic interests. China is yet to address them positively.

Since Kailash Parvat and Mansarover lake historically belongs to Indians are close to the hearts of Indians, will China hand over that area to India?

 

[Willy2]

well, I dont care about Leh or Much of North East because i have Nothing in common with them both Racially and Culturally. they are Alien to me since birth if Indic Civilizations. even Historically Both Regions were Out side of Our Influence. it was only due to British we got these Lands and people in our Nation.

it's worthless to Spend our Precious Blood for these aliens.unless, we plan to colonize that piece of Land.


https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-North-East-people-want-to-seperate-from-India

Race,Religion,Language and Culture are the main pillars of any Modern Nation. take out one of these and you will get Separatist Movements in your Country.

we have Separatist movement in NE why ? because those people have nothing in common with Average Raj of North. they are different to Raj by Race,Religion,Culture and Language. even their Language and Race is not Caucasoid.

other hand we have no Separatist Movements in Haryana,Rajasthan,Gujarat,UP,MP,Bihar and Bengal. why ? do the Math.

My Brothers do not Forget that India stands for Indians, India is Land of Indians,Indics.Indo-Aryans and most of our People are united by Common Ancestry(Race),Religion,culture,History,Way of life and Language Family, our Racial Nation Is shaped by our 5000 Year old Harrapa and Vedic Civilizations.

I will Take Smaller But Stronger Germany over Weak and Artificial Soviet union any day, Everyday.



Just one of my Radical Views. as long as i am alive i will do everything to make sure Indian Race will survive and India will become Great again. one day the Red Banner with Om and swastika will Rise again.

Britishers/nehruvian distorted history of North-east to make the region alien from Indian main stream , just like they try to do with south India .

1) In Mahabharata fighters with golden skin from eastern India(bharat) are mention to fight , I forget in which side , but they do , so basically those ppl are mainstream of Indian politics for millennium .

2)Manipur is conscious state of lord Vishnu as his wife is from Manipur.

3)Lohitya state of puran establish east of Sonitpur state , which is now in Assam ) , so Lohitya is a possibly a state on the banks of current Lohit river of Arunachal.

Not to mention about , Pragjyotishpur , Ahom , Manipur princely state .

Even greeks in ancient days knows about it . Ptolemy mention purvachal Himalaya ( Current naga hills and Arakan hills )as Menandar mons , Mountain of Menendar( Great Indo-Greek king of current Swat and Punjub ) as eastern border of India . In 1st century AD.

And about Tribes , From Aprits( Afridi) in west to Naga in east , from Aracinios in west to Mizos in east , they are always culturally Indian .Countless time s they protect internal ppl from invasion , but now we called them outsider , Pathetic .
India is't a racial identity , neither our values are establish on european value s, so european idea of nation can't be applied on us , it's the reason that commi fail miserably to break us despite that all our history still european influenced and selectively marginalize our own ppl .

 

[anoop_mig25]

2)Manipur is conscious state of lord Vishnu as his wife is from Manipur.

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can you tell more about above point ????