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5 U.S. Marines Killed in Afghanistan

5 U.S. Marines Killed in Afghanistan

KABUL, Afghanistan — Five American Marines died Thursday, four of them in a single strike by a roadside bomb, making it one of the bloodiest single attacks against American service members in recent weeks.

The four Marines were killed in a vehicle near Herat in the western part of the country. A fifth Marine, wounded in a roadside bomb attack in Farah Province on Wednesday, died from his wounds.

Taking a page from the war in Iraq, Afghan insurgents have been rapidly making homemade bombs their preferred weapon against the soldiers of the American-led coalition. There were 465 bomb attacks against coalition troops in May, more than twice the number from the same month the year before.

The deaths on Thursday brought to 11 the number of Americans killed so far in August, said Chief Petty Officer Brian Naranjo of the Navy, a military spokesman.

In July, 76 American and NATO soldiers were killed, according to icasualties.org.

Also on Thursday, a roadside bomb killed a number of civilians in Helmand Province in southern Afghanistan, many of them women and children traveling to a wedding, Afghan police officials said.

There were conflicting reports about the death toll. The provincial police chief said initially that 21 people had died, but Reuters quoted him later in the day as saying that an investigation of the attack, which occurred in a remote area, showed that only five had been killed and five wounded. Another report said 15 civilians were dead.

Officials in the neighboring province of Kandahar said that five civilians had been killed in an airstrike by an American Apache helicopter, as they were taking cucumbers to a bazaar. American and NATO officials disputed the account, saying the men were loading weapons.

Niyaz Mohammad Sarhadi, the local police chief, said the airstrike occurred at 11:30 p.m. Wednesday. Five farmers were killed when their van, loaded with cucumbers, was hit close to Sanzery bazaar in the Zhari district, he said.

Capt. Elizabeth Mathias of the Air Force, a spokeswoman for NATO forces in Afghanistan, said the helicopter crew observed four people loading small arms into a van.

When they drove away, the helicopter fired a rocket at the van and fired its machine guns, she said. “We heard the report by local officials and certainly we are investigating,” she said.

“According to my report, four individuals were seen loading weapons into a van — very clearly small arms,” Captain Mathias said. “It was a U.S. Apache helicopter that observed it, and they do typically record on video what they observed, especially when they are observing a target. We hope to have some image later and hopefully to clear it up.”

Yet another roadside bomb exploded next to a police vehicle on Thursday in another part of Helmand, the Nad Ali district, killing five police officers and wounding three others, according to an Interior Ministry statement.
 

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What a strange article. A skewed sex ratio is generally associated with an increase in crimes against women, female trafficking for prostitution, sex-slavery etc. but to suggest that this would affect Chinese foreign policy is rather far-fetched.

In the last survey done by the government in 1990, India had around 25 million excess males due to female foeticide, especially prevalent in North Indian states. This number is obviously larger now, but I don't see it making India's army more aggressive or anything.
India on speed dial - The Financial Express
This is the only post reasonable and without bias.Thank Flint!
 

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CRUSHED BY THE RULE OF LAW
Neha Sahay

For six years, Zhang had worked as the personal driver of a foreign executive. Young, smart and friendly, he spoke better English than most Chinese, most of it self-taught. Unlike others in the factory, he wasn’t a migrant. Born in the city, he was a godsend to the foreigner, more so because he was always eager to show the latter around.

Though hesitant to encroach upon Zhang’s spare time, the foreigner found he often had to — when the power or water supply to his house suddenly vanished or when his refrigerator stopped working. Only Zhang could find out from the colony’s security men the reason for the disruption and call the mechanic. Even when the foreigner learnt to speak Chinese, he couldn’t understand what the mechanic said.

The driver was indispensable in other ways too. When the boss had an accident, Zhang not only rushed him to hospital, but, as the former lay at home, immobilized for a fortnight, he also cooked and shopped for him. Wanting to explore nearby cities, the boss asked Zhang for directions. “You won’t be able to find your way around; what will you tell the taxi driver?” replied Zhang, offering to take him there. Many a weekend was spent exploring the region under Zhang’s guidance; he even went on a week-long road trip with the family.

Shared bond

Thus, whether the boss was by himself or with his family, Zhang became an inseparable part of their lives. Unlike many Chinese, he was always game to try new food: so, after a long day’s sightseeing, they never had to hesitate while deciding where to eat. When Chinese food had to be tried out, it was imperative to have him around. In fact, initially, eating out without Zhang was tough, for the boss’s daughter was vegetarian — a rare species in China — for whom special instructions had to be given to the Chinese-speaking restaurant staff. Zhang often took them out for dinner, specially on his boss’s birthday or on Chinese New Year.

Why was Zhang still single, the boss would wonder. The way he talked about his parents and siblings, it was apparent that his was a close-knit family, but they were not dependent on him. Towards the end of the six years, occasionally, a female voice would answer his phone on weekends, and when asked if he was free for dinner, instead of saying, “Ya, no problem”, he would nod and immediately phone someone. At last Zhang’s got a girlfriend, the boss thought.

Only once

A few months after the foreigner left the city for another job, he returned with his family on a holiday. Zhang again became a part of their lives. On the eve of their departure, he invited them for dinner at his home. In all these years, Zhang had never called them over, though he’d pointed out his house to them. That evening, as the door was opened by a woman, Zhang introduced her: “My wife. And this,’’ he said, pointing to the little boy hiding behind her, “is my son.’’

Zhang had been married almost as long as they’d known him, they realized with shock. The boss asked him why, guilt-ridden at having kept Zhang apart from his family so often. “Because I want another child,’’ Zhang answered. If he made his intentions public, he’d have to pay a stiff penalty under China’s one-child policy. So, he had waited till his boss left his city, and he left the factory, before letting his secret be known. His wife had gone to her village for the delivery. His son’s birth had been registered there. The second child would be delivered in the city, and that would be the only birth registered there. Zhang, who never swore, smoked or broke a traffic rule, had decided like so many of his compatriots that the single-child rule was the one law he would disobey.

China Taken for a Ride
 

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Well, much that we would like to trust the Chinese website and news, this is what the Chinese people have to say:



Prostitutes are more trustworthy than government officials, Chinese survey finds

The online survey of 3,376 Chinese showed that 7.9 per cent of respondents considered sex workers trustworthy, putting them in third place after farmers and religious workers, the Insight China magazine said on its website.

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Tongzhi,

If Chinese themselves feel prostitutes are more reliable than their OWN Government, how can you blame other for relying on western sites?
 

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it is said india would excess china to be the most populous country, we are willing to see that, remember to produce more girls!
Tongzhi,

Yes such diktats could have been enforced if India was a Communist country.

Like your one child policy or the hukou system or force people to change their culture, language and prevent religious practices and all that.

Sadly, India is a free and democratic country.

What can one do?

But if India exceed your population, China will lose face, since you all want to be No 1 in everything and believe in only statistics and figures!!:wow:

However, it is sad that the Chinese people don't believe their own govt and instead think prostitutes are more reliable!
 

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Ray,here is a forum also talk about this stuff.what is difference between here and there?China 'trusts prostitutes more'
If you follow the thread carefully instead of being selective, you will realise the context.

Check post 14 and thereafter.

The issue is a sarcastic allusion that we go by the western media. Now which media are we to follow.

China news should be from China, but then if the Chinese don't believe their govt, how can be. And more so when a Chinese paper is reporting so!
 

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If you follow the thread carefully instead of being selective, you will realise the context.

Check post 14 and thereafter.

The issue is a sarcastic allusion that we go by the western media. Now which media are we to follow.

China news should be from China, but then if the Chinese don't believe their govt, how can be. And more so when a Chinese paper is reporting so!
Where is my post?I posted twice,all of them gone.If india is free country,Why deleted my post
 

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Where is my post?I posted twice,all of them gone.If india is free country,Why deleted my post

India is a free country and of there is no doubt.

But then this forum is private property and so the owners and their representatives have freedom to exist they way they deem best.
 

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India is a free country but you cannot rant anything you like. Read the reason why the post was deleted. Do not repeat.
 

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Lol! I feel bad for the Nigerians.

The fact that their domestic weapons are world-class might have some truth, because after all, they are copies of the real "world-class" weapons throughout the world.
continious failure happened to CHinese satellites.

BeiDou 04 satliite is reported to defunction ,after Beidou 02 and Nigerian satellite,

it is the third failed satellites now.

all the 3 failed satellite are based on "Dongfanghong 3" platform.

the platform is the most advanced platform and now the continous failure proves to still unmature
 

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i think india's first enemy is the population groth...? we want to control it ASAP, else we have to pay a big price on it...
 

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i think india's first enemy is the population groth...? we want to control it ASAP, else we have to pay a big price on it...
well I wouldnt call it India's first enemy, India's population growth is one of its advantage if u know the relationship between demographics and gdp. as u may know, India has the largest pool of younger generation, more than that of the entire population of United States...it is considered as this huge workforce and market will push India's economy further beyond. China will get old before they could get rich bcoz of their one child policy.

Still we should curb population growth tho.:D
 

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This is probably the most paradoxial statement, Chinese, taiwanese and US economies are becoming interlink, yet China spent majority of it's defense spending on possible invasions of Taiwane. What is paradoxial is if China is going to spent more becuase it is not fully capable of capturing Taiwane, yet, they would loose because there economy would be crushed. That is really funny. Owe what web we weave, in peaceful rise of China.
That's how RAND make a living: flamimg, conspiracy, threats! What a word of "invasion", they should conduct a study on "US Invasion of New Mexico if its dares go independent", "UK vs N Ireland", "Spain vs Basque", "Georgia vs Ossetia" ... BS

The civil war fought between CCP & KMT had come to a complete cease-fire decades ago. Now that they are talking about "mainland & Taiwan both belong to one China", economies so intertwined, trememdous free flow of capital/goods/people, war is hardly seen by most people on both sides. Yes, PLA is geared for active defence, a mean to survive from US threat, the spearhead of Western hegemony

this article must be in response to the funds that were rejested to some major programs in US airforce.
Yeah, I think the F-22 program has something to do with it.
 

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Sammy, dont insult the intelligence of the readers of this forum. The China-India thing is all about China becoming strategically dominant in Asia. They do not want anyone to be a close 2nd. For 50 years China has engaged in an indirect proxy war with India thru their ally Pakistan.
Mattster, you also don't insult all readers here by simply equivalating prediction of other's motive to intelligence

Due to language barrier and lack of competition domestically, China goverment (and its state-owned media) could not have effectively communicated with other different social systems, so our voice is merely heard outside our territory.

What do you mean by China doesn't want India as a close 2nd? What kind of illusions you are portraiting, is that same China vs India BS? The fact is, both countries are FAR from being ranked top, even in Asia! Not even in 50 years! Collectively speaking both countries are massive, but people's living standards are hell compared to league number one. The competition, if any exists, would be "who is not the worst student in class", "who is not slave of the West anymore".

China is no friend of India....it does not matter what the Chinese press says....its all govt BS anyway. Any Indian who believes that China is really interested in having good relations with India should have their head examined.
So the universal rule of "no matter what ..." applies again ha? How scientific & reasonable ... BS! You may criticize & argue, but don't insult any Indian who is working to better relationship.

The Chinese will sign all kinds of treaties with other countries and then wipe their asses with the same paper it was written on.
The only thing that China respects is POWER. Only when India has the military and economic power will we see that a balanced relationship.
Give me ONE treaty that China signed and then "wiped their asses with". If you cannot, wipe your mouth with the same paper that wipe your ass.

Did China "respected" US military power in Korea 1950? How about Russian military power in Zhen Bao Dao (Damanski) 1969? Did China "respected" French economic power over Dalai? How about Japanese economic power over Diao Yu Tai? Power, that's BS. Chinese only want to live better, live in peace. Force is only an option to counter-match, and would be last option.
 

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Gentlemen: Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun - Mao Zedong ...hun..!
may be late(for china) it came for India from the same barrel of gun indeed......
as i have said in earlier posts beggars have no choice,without parallel power its futile to sit on negotiating table.
But these sweet words from chines friends should be dealt with benign approach and seen with suspicion every time. those who don't learn from history are meant to be history.

If i am not wrong (please correct me) before 1962 Mr. Mao came in india with roses of friendship in hands and attacked india just after turning his back for home.
 

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well I wouldnt call it India's first enemy, India's population growth is one of its advantage if u know the relationship between demographics and gdp. as u may know, India has the largest pool of younger generation, more than that of the entire population of United States...it is considered as this huge workforce and market will push India's economy further beyond. China will get old before they could get rich bcoz of their one child policy.

Still we should curb population growth tho.:D
every thing is nice while hearing this, but the factor is as this growth countinus we will beat china around 2035-50. China is a large mass of land, compare to india.
 

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Gentlemen: Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun - Mao Zedong ...hun..!
may be late(for china) it came for India from the same barrel of gun indeed......
Yes, Mao was right. Throughout histories in Asia, Europe, N America, regimes were destroyed and built by force. There were few exceptions e.g. Gandhi's movement against British imperialist, that was respectful, but that was rare.

After WWII, a lot of people are getting tired of guns, the ideological Cold War remained mostly "cold" and proved to be materially speaking meaningless. Ideology is loosing its market. Now, accumulation of wealth is the main theme if not the only theme, multinational corporations diminish geographical borders between sovereign states. In US-led Western world of capitalistic democracies, national strategies are made in private-owned multinational HQ's, driven by commercial motives. That's why totalitarian Saudi Arabia is ally, but democratic Iran is enemy.

as i have said in earlier posts beggars have no choice,without parallel power its futile to sit on negotiating table.
Developing countries like China & India maybe poor but "beggar" is exaggerating. Gandhi didn't have parallel power but he won did he? US had overwhelming power but still failed its Korean War, Bay of Pig & WOT hadn't she?

Civilians may talk of war at no costs, but naturally don't wanna end up messing their wealth & even lives with it, especially in a war which is remote to them. GWB had to create huge amount of fear among people in order to sell his WOT, cos tax-payers & mothers-of-sons are not easy buyers.

Negotiation need not be hostile, it could be win-win, depending on the skills & wisdom of negotiators. War is not an option they have.

But these sweet words from chines friends should be dealt with benign approach and seen with suspicion every time. those who don't learn from history are meant to be history.
If i am not wrong (please correct me) before 1962 Mr. Mao came in india with roses of friendship in hands and attacked india just after turning his back for home.
Chinese want to normalize relationship with India, promote business and enjoy life. Here the "strong man" era had long gone, arsenal industry is state owned, and state governed by a well-doctrined institution of 60-million elite members that are not easily affected by nationalistic emotions from the mass public.

China just wish to normalize bilateral relationship, no romance, no hatred, no hostility. These are no sweet words, instead a reminder for Indian government & community, watch out for sweet words, stay alert to anybody that had ripped off or motivated to do it from India.
 

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