China may have deployed 3 brigades of DF-41 ICBMs | Sputnik News

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I had previously guessed that China had built 57 DF-41 ICBMs (or 4 1/2 brigades).

However, the latest news from Sputnik News (via Apple Daily newspaper) indicates China has deployed only three brigades of DF-41 ICBMs.

DF-41 ICBM brigade locations:
a. near Daqing City
b. Xinyang, Henan
c. Xinjiang

3 brigades of DF-41 ICBMs x 12 ICBMs per brigade = 36 DF-41 ICBMs

36 DF-41 ICBMs x 10 MIRVs = 360 total thermonuclear warheads on DF-41 ICBMs
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Good job. Now why not test a few on USA to clear doubts, since Chinese products being substandard have a dubious record of failure. If you're successful in bombing US then these missiles are good enough and if it explodes midway or US is able to intercept it then at least you will get to know problems it has and you can work on it.:bounce::bounce::bounce::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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They probably would deploy a unit or two in Tibet aimed at India in the near future. But having them near the Russian border shows that suspicions persist and the threat perception where Russia is concerned is a reality, never mind the status of their relationship at present which is on an upswing.
 

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China could have deployed 96 DF-41 ICBMs.

Let's count the total number of Chinese DF-41 ICBMs.

Chinese media, Russia's Sputnik News, and Russia's RT have reported that China has deployed three brigades of DF-41 ICBMs.

The DF-41 ICBM locations are:
a. Daqing City, Heilongjiang Province in northeastern China (see video below)
b. Xinyang City, Henan Province in central China
c. Xinjiang Province in northwestern China (deployment soon)

However, there appears to be a possible fourth DF-41 ICBM brigade in Tibet Province in southwestern China (see picture below). The terrain looks like the Tibetan plateau. The wide distribution of DF-41 ICBMs throughout continental-sized China is logical.


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Re-load of DF-41 ICBM


Chinese media have reported the deployment of three brigades of DF-41 ICBMs. There is photographic evidence of a possible fourth brigade of DF-41 ICBMs on the Tibetan plateau. However, we have only counted the number of DF-41 ICBM TELs (ie. Transporter Erector Launcher).

It is inefficient to fire only one ballistic missile per launcher. It is more logical to fire two ballistic missiles per launcher. This process is called re-loading. A DF-41 TEL can either be re-loaded with another DF-41 ICBM missile nearby or the DF-41 TEL can drive to a hidden re-supply location for another DF-41 ICBM.

If you accept that China has one re-load missile for each DF-41 TEL then the total number of Chinese DF-41 ICBMs has to be doubled.

Four brigades of DF-41 ICBMs (Heilongjiang, Henan, Xinjiang, and Tibet Provinces) with one re-load per DF-41 TEL yields 96 total DF-41 ICBMs.

4 DF-41 ICBM brigades x 12 DF-41 ICBM ballistic missiles per brigade x 2 (for the re-load) = 96 total DF-41 ICBMs

96 DF-41 ICBMs x 10 MIRVs for each DF-41 ICBM = 960 thermonuclear warheads on DF-41 ICBMs
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By the way, ballistic missile re-loading was a common practice. Thus, the US-Soviet/Russian START treaty specifically prohibits missile reloading (including silo-based ICBMs). However, China is not a signatory to any arms-control treaty on ICBMs and is not bound by the prohibition on ICBM reload.

China Conducts Second Flight Test of New Long-Range Missile | The Washington Free Beacon

"Fisher said there are reports that the Second Artillery Corps, as China’s missile service is called, includes at least one reload missile for each mobile missile-launcher system.


If the new DF-41 is deployed in the future with a reload missile per launcher, it would vastly increase the numbers of nuclear warheads in the Chinese arsenal, as many as 120 to 240 warheads for each DF-41 [brigade] unit."



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If you haven't seen it yet, here is a Chinese DF-41 ICBM spotted at Daqing City, Heilongjiang Province in northeastern China. Chinese ballistic missiles are always deployed in a brigade, because it is a known standard Chinese military practice. There are charts of Chinese military brigades and the type of ballistic missiles under their control. Thus, if you spot a Chinese ballistic missile at a location then there are more nearby from the same brigade.

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This is an organization chart of a typical Chinese ballistic missile base. As you can see, the standard Chinese ballistic missile unit is a brigade. For example, in the chart below, the Hunan 803 Brigade controls 12 DF-5A ICBMs (which may have been upgraded by now to DF-5B 8-MIRV ICBMs).

Spotlight on New Second Artillery ICBM Base Leadership | Asia Eye

Chart I: Organizational Structure of 55 Base

"Source: Second Artillery Handbook, July 25, 2011 (unpublished draft)"
 

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96 DF-41 ICBMs x 10 MIRVs for each DF-41 ICBM = 960 thermonuclear warheads on DF-41 ICBMs
Few days before you claimed china has 560 thermonuclear warheads now they have 960 .
I guess in few days they will overcome both Russia and USA with this speed :pound::pound:

Anyway enough with these propaganda information . All fake info to scare USA to not to be aggressive. Nobody is buying this BS.:bounce:
 

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Few days before you claimed china has 560 thermonuclear warheads now they have 960 .
I guess in few days they will overcome both Russia and USA with this speed :pound::pound:
Don't worry! Seeing that this stuff is Chinese made, not more than 10% will work. The rest will be nothing but duds!! :)
 

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