China has dismiss the chief designer of J-20 ,JF-17 & J-10

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Can you post pictures of an Indian equivalent? It is understandable that white people can laugh at Chinese engines but they laugh even harder at people without any engines like Africans and aborigines.
Well Indian manufacturing is way behind Chinese, I will give you that. It is ahead of Pakistanis as they have a space program, have built the LCA by themselves, tank etc. Pakis have been given away stuff from you guys. Anyway, doesn't matter. If you are really objective, then you will admit that India kicks both Chinese and Pakistani butts (even combined together) in the software industry and that Indians pretty much run Silicon Valley. To each their strengths, India will catch up eventually.
 

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He has not been fired. He has most likely been promoted. As a forum its time we did better DD on what we post.

Dwnews is known to be vehemently anti chinese.

Scroll through Sinodef for a better understanding
 

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Only Brainwashed Donkeys such as Pakis and Nigerians buy and proud of Chini maal. That's why Pakis, Myanmar, Nigeria and Bangladesh are alone 75 % of Chinese weapon export. Pakis are 45 %


Sub standard and Low cost Chinese weapon system are only good for dying like a Bitch and dance floor just like when Sikhs did Bhangra on destroyed Type 59 Tanks in Longewala 1971
 

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J-15A with WS-10A. This J-15 variant has a catapult bar.



J-16 with WS-10A



Can Indian members of the forum post pictures of flying warplanes with an engine built by Indians? I think that would be very sexy.
WS10A has a life of 30hr compare to 400 hr of Al 31,genrates less thrust and is maintainces nightmare. Your own airforce prefer J11 with Russian engine
 

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Well Indian manufacturing is way behind Chinese, I will give you that. It is ahead of Pakistanis as they have a space program, have built the LCA by themselves, tank etc. Pakis have been given away stuff from you guys. Anyway, doesn't matter. If you are really objective, then you will admit that India kicks both Chinese and Pakistani butts (even combined together) in the software industry and that Indians pretty much run Silicon Valley. To each their strengths, India will catch up eventually.
Forget China only pakistan is enough for you , don't dream to fight China , keeping 1m army in Kashmir is itself a proof india afraid of who ? ;)
 

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o lulli, they have gone to mars while you retards are riding donkeys in your madrassas. ja saron da tel laa daare nu
You reached mars just because you wana tell us India is unbeatable? Tusen agar mars tay ve abad ho jao tay sady missile tuhady pichwary tay target hon gay..Saron da tail hay Mary kol tainon pichy lan wasty ;)
 

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WS10A has a life of 30hr compare to 400 hr of Al 31,genrates less thrust and is maintainces nightmare. Your own airforce prefer J11 with Russian engine
Do you have a reliable source for that information?
 

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Well Indian manufacturing is way behind Chinese, I will give you that.

All I asked is a picture of an Indian plane powered by an Indian engine. I don't really care if India is behind China in anything else, including software :)

Indians in this thread are talking about how Chinese airplanes are junk and how all Chinese engine are failures should at least be able to produce one picture of an Indian plane with an Indian engine, right?

I can understand why white people might laugh at Chinese even when there are tons of Chinese aircraft powered by Chinese engines. But whites laugh harder at people like Indians and Africans who don't have a single working engine at all!

Also, the rest of the world would laugh very hard at dark people like Indians who don't have engines but use white people's achievements to bash the many Chinese aircraft flying with Chinese engines.

Don't you Indians understand the deep racism against dark skin exemplified by Black Lives Matter? Sorry, but if you use the achievements of whites instead of your own achievements to attack others, people will see you as riding the coattails of the very people who look down on you and laugh very hard.

It means Indians have none of the same achievement as Chinese but are jealous of the Chinese who have many many engine and airframe types so they use the achievements of whites out of desperation.

I hope Indians can show me that picture of an Indian plane powered by an Indian engine. I don't want the world to see them in such a pitiful and pathetic light.
 
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But why did India not make one? Same reason Nigeria and Bhutan did not make one?

As you can see from my many sexy photos of Chinese fighters with Chinese engines, most Chinese frontline Flankers run on WS-10A.

Can you post pictures of an Indian equivalent? It is understandable that white people can laugh at Chinese engines but they laugh even harder at people without any engines like Africans and aborigines.

Is there an Indian aircraft engine powering a plane today? If not, they will laugh at you like they do to other dark skinned people without aircraft engines.
Yes, We made tejas , the beautiful small aircraft which lift double load than your huge twine engine junk the J 15. We made kaveri and surpass designed dry thrust but fell short of wet thrust. Kaveri is sufficient to power tejas and cover 90% of performance envelope. However, IAF is not PLA air force who accept any junk on the name indigenous stuff. Our airforce demands better than the best and that is why F16, F18 and even gripen lost in technical evaluation. You can make junk and make them fly without any usability in war and do chest thumping that your plane flies with your own engine but are they war worthy? No. You made J 20 and did a lots of chest thumping but the truth has come out now. All the program heads of various junk series of capy cat planes are sacked now. You J 10 are falling down like anything. There were at least 5 fell down in last years.

On other hand we took time but we got a genuine 4+ generation fighter comparable with anything in class. Our Tejas MK1+ shall be truly a world class fighter with 8.5g+ and weight carrying of 4.5 ton+ and 2K km range with bellow 6 ton weight. You can not even think of any similar aircraft. With the arrival of AMCA we shall have 5+ generation of fighter comparable with the best in class anywhere. On other hand you shall continue to make this sort of stolen design junk and keep on sacking the project director.

In missile technology also you guys bluffed a lot but your junk fang series missiles are nowhere our agni series forget about K series. You can not dream of making something similar to K series. You keep bluffing about career killer DF 21 for years without even a single test and we made a state of art Brahmos steep dive which can kill any aircraft career and we have 50+ successful test. We tested AAD and PAD and you kept copying S300 and ultimately bought S400. You guys are master bluffing and very low on achievement. So keep thumping your chest and waste your money. We shall keep making stuff like shaurya, K series, Astra. LRSAM, AAD and PAD. You will get third rate customers like pakistan who will keep saying that their JF 17 is similar to F 16.
 

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Do you have a reliable source for that information?
WS 10 can not run for more than one hour. We have tested Kaveri for 53 hours continuously on full load.

My one question to chinese members. If your engine is so good than why do you buy engine from russia. If your air defense is too good than why S400? If your planes are good than why Su30 and Su35?
 

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You reached mars just because you wana tell us India is unbeatable?
This is not a question of like or unlike but of technical prowess. You too wish so many thing but unable to make even a 100 cc engine to show it to the world. You can just train terrorist and export but not good for anything else.
 

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Forget China only pakistan is enough for you , don't dream to fight China , keeping 1m army in Kashmir is itself a proof india afraid of who ? ;)
Tarak fatah is right. Every mullah believes that one marde momin porki is enough for 10 hindus ans that too after loosing 4 wars. Those 93000 cowards who put down their weapons in front of 15000 k indian army are once again hyping the capability of their coward army who Bombs their own citizens and rapes Baluch women. Just now they have abducted women from Baluchistan.
 

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Yes, We made tejas , the beautiful small aircraft which lift double load than your huge twine engine junk the J 15.
The J-15 can carry 12 tons (like most Flankers), the LCA 4. You either like to lie or you are clueless.

I am sorry but the LCA/Tejas is the biggest joke in all serious aviation forums. Remember, Indians has been talking about this one plane for over a decade and half now. In the same period, the J-10A, JF-17, J-10S, J-10B, J-11B, J-15, JH-7A, JL-9 and L-15 were all inducted into SERVICE!

The J-20 and J-16 were tested and brought into LRIP during this period!

LCA is famous as the one Indian project -- forever! And it is considered a non-factor in today's aviation discussion because it is nothing new. The LCA is basically a western modular aircraft that the Indians had a (very) hard time integrating. Engine, avionics, weapons, radar and even the radome are all off-the-shelf western and Israeli parts.

BTW, the Iranian Saeghe is more interesting for more western aviation enthusiasts because western embargo means the Iranians had no access to western parts unlike India which meant they had to be innovative.

The LCA is called the longest running screwdriving project in the aviation world. It basically reveals an aircraft industry with no real industrial base.

Sorry, when you can't even build a nose for your Tejas after a decade it is pretty telling that you can't build much.
 

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Do you have a reliable source for that information?
From wiki , type WS 10
The WS-10A, targeted for 130 kilonewtons (29,000 lbf) of thrust,[6] was already in development in 2002.[9] An early version was flown on an J-8II in 2002.[1] In 2004, Russian sources familiar with project reported problems meeting the thrust target;[10] in 2005, they reported problems reducing the weight of the primary and secondary compressors, in addition to problems meeting thrust requirements.[11] Engine testing on the J-11 had already started by 2004,[10] and testing using one engine on the J-11 may have occurred as early as 2002.[9]

A full-scale WS-10A engine was first seen at the 2008 China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition.[6]

In 2009, Western media reported that the WS-10A approached the performance of the Saturn AL-31, but took much longer than the AL-31 to develop thrust.[12]Furthermore, reportedly the engine only generated 110–125 kilonewtons (25,000–28,000 lbf) of thrust.[6] In April 2009, Lin Zuoming, head of AVIC, reported that the engine's quality was unsatisfactory.[13] In 2010, it was reported that reliability was also poor; the WS-10A lasted only 30 hours, while the AL-31 needed refurbishing after 400 hours.[14] The quality problems encountered with the WS-10A reflected the state of the Chinese aerospace industry; AVIC initiated a general effort to improve quality control throughout its production chain in 2011.[15]
 

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You reached mars just because you wana tell us India is unbeatable? Tusen agar mars tay ve abad ho jao tay sady missile tuhady pichwary tay target hon gay..Saron da tail hay Mary kol tainon pichy lan wasty ;)
Haan aah vi theek aa agge picche saare laa de polle polle hatthan naal, tere chittran te surgical strike saukhi ho jau
 

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Forget China only pakistan is enough for you , don't dream to fight China , keeping 1m army in Kashmir is itself a proof india afraid of who ? ;)
Don't worry about it India can afford it. It doesn't need to prostitute to China like you. Should change your name to Haramstaaan
 

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