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srevster

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Nah retard
U are just rotating the things to just win the argument having no idea where the hell u are going

Anyways I have to entertain a retard now
Data preprocess will require AI implementation in future for higher efficacy of self driving vehicles
AI algorithms can identify missing or null values in datasets and employ strategies like imputation
AI techniques, such as filtering algorithms or outlier detection models, help identify and remove noisy data points that could skew analysis results or machine learning models
Feature engineering require AI algorithms while using techniques like dimensionality reduction or encoding categorical variables
AI utilizes natural language processing (NLP) or computer vision techniques to preprocess and extract relevant information for analysis that is text and image processing
Most importantly data augmentation
Sensor fusion will definitely require AI to be more efficient in future thus increasing its practicality in self driven cars

How the f**k u can compare elxsi with Chinese self driven cars
They literally running and testing those self driving cars where as we barely have concept regarding it
Coming to mapmyindia u really have no idea regarding the company and its capabilities
I don't want to name western companies as they are light years ahead appolo by baidu is far more advanced and detailed coz the market and data size baidu exercises is immense
Pls check mapmyindia app how bogus and cluttered it feels compared to Google maps
Again u have no learning except trolling Chinese
@jai jaganath filtering algorithms are not AI. Removing noisy data is not AI. This is called data engineering and is part of MLOPS. AI is the outcome of the MLOPS process, not the process itself. The MLOPS process creates a model and this model is deployed on the edge for inference. What your dumbass is describing is AI training infrastructure, not inference models in a car.

“AI techniques, such as filtering algorithms or outlier detection models, help identify and remove noisy data points that could skew analysis results or machine learning models”

Self driving cars have something called an operational design domain. If your dumbass is educated, you would know that operational design domain basically define the limited scenarios that car is certified to drive in. Where NLP plays a role on this is unknown. The weakness of NLP is the sequential nature of large language models. Chat GPT takes several seconds or even a minute to formulate a response. Logical reasoning or in this case spatial reasoning cannot rely on large language models in a real time environment and still meet the 10ms decision latency tolerance and 50ms reaction time tolerance.

“AI utilizes natural language processing (NLP) or computer vision techniques to preprocess and extract relevant information for analysis that is text and image processing
Most importantly data augmentation
Sensor fusion will definitely require AI to be more efficient in future thus increasing its practicality in self driven cars
 

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I met with Baidu, their engineers were meh. The people you worship…

I also met AutoNavi, NavInfo, Tencent, BAIC, SAIC. SAIC invested in us but I kicked them out of the company.

I don’t wanna name drop, but I am sick of China propaganda misreporting it’s capabilities

p.s. in case you are confused, you are speaking with a self driving CEO with a successful exit
 

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I met with Baidu, their engineers were meh. The people you worship…

I also met AutoNavi, NavInfo, Tencent, BAIC, SAIC. SAIC invested in us but I kicked them out of the company.

I don’t wanna name drop, but I am sick of China propaganda misreporting it’s capabilities

p.s. in case you are confused, you are speaking with a self driving CEO with a successful exit
I have many connections with auto brand owners and Tier 1, Tier 2 suppliers. They welcomed any kind of new tech companies visting them especially before 2020 time period. Even they sent you a term sheet, it's still a long way to go, I don't think you are even on that stage.

I think the battle between self driving is not even started yet. Nearby my software park, there are lots of L3, L5 automobile testing on the road, but not on commericial stage yet.

I don't think you made a successful exit, maybe just sold your share to some other startups, like the kicked out guy from movie "The Social Network".


According to my impression to you, we had several debates on numbers. Like you claimed Indian's gratudation students were 4 time than China, but if you look at birth rate when they were birth, it's impossible.

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And you asked me my travel blog why had so little people in picture, if you are sentitive on numbers, you should know that 3million KM2 area vs 30 million people, that's the way how the photo looks like.



I deeply doubt your insensitive about numbers would makes you a good software engineer or even a CEO.
Maybe i m wrong, but my whole life is dealing with IT guys, u r not that qualified to me, just my feeling u r not that kind of person.
 
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jai jaganath

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@jai jaganath filtering algorithms are not AI. Removing noisy data is not AI. This is called data engineering and is part of MLOPS. AI is the outcome of the MLOPS process, not the process itself. The MLOPS process creates a model and this model is deployed on the edge for inference. What your dumbass is describing is AI training infrastructure, not inference models in a car.

“AI techniques, such as filtering algorithms or outlier detection models, help identify and remove noisy data points that could skew analysis results or machine learning models”

Self driving cars have something called an operational design domain. If your dumbass is educated, you would know that operational design domain basically define the limited scenarios that car is certified to drive in. Where NLP plays a role on this is unknown. The weakness of NLP is the sequential nature of large language models. Chat GPT takes several seconds or even a minute to formulate a response. Logical reasoning or in this case spatial reasoning cannot rely on large language models in a real time environment and still meet the 10ms decision latency tolerance and 50ms reaction time tolerance.

“AI utilizes natural language processing (NLP) or computer vision techniques to preprocess and extract relevant information for analysis that is text and image processing
Most importantly data augmentation
Sensor fusion will definitely require AI to be more efficient in future thus increasing its practicality in self driven cars
Comon asshole bring a better logic
U r basically just going round and round appear to be confused
Even denying every basic facts
While going through ur logic entire AI things is farce and false concept and the world doesn't require it
Every ops being performed presently without AI doesn't mean in future AI won't be used

AI is used in certain aspects in data engineering
In short used in increasing efficiency in data processing, scaling and predictive analysis
And at last it feels u r agreeing to the topic
But just arguing for the sake of argument
 

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I met with Baidu, their engineers were meh. The people you worship…

I also met AutoNavi, NavInfo, Tencent, BAIC, SAIC. SAIC invested in us but I kicked them out of the company.

I don’t wanna name drop, but I am sick of China propaganda misreporting it’s capabilities

p.s. in case you are confused, you are speaking with a self driving CEO with a successful exit
I don't u r CEO or CTO
Nor I can believe ur claim with such arguments and irrelevance
This entire post of "trust me vro" has no relevance when basic concepts being discussed and u provide no proof against it except I have spoken to baidu everything is false and propaganda
U talk with anyone I don't give a flying fuck for me once an asshole remains asshole for entire life
 

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Range (WLTP) 1000 km

Minimal Consumption (WLTP) 20 kWh/100 km

Acceleration 0-100 km/h 2.1 s

The Tesla Roadster is a concept car in development, all specifications are preliminary.
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with a tesla I can travel 1000km with Chinese super dupper Maglev 30km

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Wow Our majesty could not see that factor from a very important country you could not see how Germany conned you

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Electric vehicles with a range of 1000 kilometers,

China has produced several models,

you do not need a concept car.
 

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Three models have a range of 1,000 kilometers

Electric cars already in mass production in China

Prices range from about $40,000 to $70,000
 

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Electric vehicles with a range of 1000 kilometers,

China has produced several models,

you do not need a concept car.
the topic was not about cars range but the fact Maglev trains still can not compete with airplanes or other type of trains.

They are pretty impractical, 1km of Maglev train cost around USD $100 million dollars just to build.

A country like Mexico is huge, so tell me why we should build a Maglev?

Although there is no indication of how long the prospective opening date will be put off, the total project cost estimate has grown to 10.5 trillion yen ($95 billion).
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14453260
. Its operating velocity is 500 kilometers per hour. At its fastest, the superconducting maglev will connect Shinagawa and Nagoya City (a railway length of 285.6 km) in 40 minutes and, further down the line, Tokyo and Osaka City in 67 minutes. (Presently the Tokaido Shinkansen at its fastest connects Tokyo and Nagoya in one hour and 34 minutes and Tokyo and Shin-Osaka in two hours and 22 minutes.) Central Japan Railway Company (JR Central) plans to open the route between Tokyo and Nagoya City, currently under construction as the first phase, in 2027.
Distance from Palenque to Cancun
Distance from Palenque to Cancún is 675 kilometers
. This air travel distance is equal to 419 miles.
The total cost of the Maya Train, a pharaonic project spearheaded by the Mexican president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, was projected at around $8.3bn in 2020, a figure that has since skyrocketed to $28bn.


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obviously Maglevs are more expensive for less kilometers its cost, it costs 3 times more for a 1/5 of the distance
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The Tren Maya is a 1,554-kilometre (966 mi) intercity railway in Mexico that traverses the Yucatán Peninsula. Construction began in June 2020 a
 
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the topic was not about cars range but the fact Maglev trains still can not compete with airplanes or other type of trains.

They are pretty impractical, 1km of Maglev train cost around USD $100 million dollars just to build.

A country like Mexico is huge, so tell me why we should build a Maglev?

Although there is no indication of how long the prospective opening date will be put off, the total project cost estimate has grown to 10.5 trillion yen ($95 billion).
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14453260
. Its operating velocity is 500 kilometers per hour. At its fastest, the superconducting maglev will connect Shinagawa and Nagoya City (a railway length of 285.6 km) in 40 minutes and, further down the line, Tokyo and Osaka City in 67 minutes. (Presently the Tokaido Shinkansen at its fastest connects Tokyo and Nagoya in one hour and 34 minutes and Tokyo and Shin-Osaka in two hours and 22 minutes.) Central Japan Railway Company (JR Central) plans to open the route between Tokyo and Nagoya City, currently under construction as the first phase, in 2027.
Distance from Palenque to Cancun
Distance from Palenque to Cancún is 675 kilometers
. This air travel distance is equal to 419 miles.
The total cost of the Maya Train, a pharaonic project spearheaded by the Mexican president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, was projected at around $8.3bn in 2020, a figure that has since skyrocketed to $28bn.


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obviously Maglevs are more expensive for less kilometers it cost it cost 3 times more for a 1/3 of the distance

Both maglevs and regional jet have no future.
 

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the topic was not car range but the fact Maglev trains still can not compete with airplanes or other type of trains.

They are pretty impractical, 1km of Maglev train cost around USD $100 million dollars just to build.

A country like Mexico is huge, so tell me why we should build a Maglev?

Although there is no indication of how long the prospective opening date will be put off, the total project cost estimate has grown to 10.5 trillion yen ($95 billion).
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14453260
. Its operating velocity is 500 kilometers per hour. At its fastest, the superconducting maglev will connect Shinagawa and Nagoya City (a railway length of 285.6 km) in 40 minutes and, further down the line, Tokyo and Osaka City in 67 minutes. (Presently the Tokaido Shinkansen at its fastest connects Tokyo and Nagoya in one hour and 34 minutes and Tokyo and Shin-Osaka in two hours and 22 minutes.) Central Japan Railway Company (JR Central) plans to open the route between Tokyo and Nagoya City, currently under construction as the first phase, in 2027.
Distance from Palenque to Cancun
Distance from Palenque to Cancún is 675 kilometers
. This air travel distance is equal to 419 miles.
The total cost of the Maya Train, a pharaonic project spearheaded by the Mexican president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, was projected at around $8.3bn in 2020, a figure that has since skyrocketed to $28bn.


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obviously Maglevs are more expensive for less kilometers it cost it cost 3 times more for a 1/3 of the distance
Of course, maglev is very expensive.

So it's going to be rare,

I predict that several hundred kilometers of maglev could be built in China in the next 10 years, no more than two lines at the most.
 

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Of course, maglev is very expensive.

So it's going to be rare,

I predict that several hundred kilometers of maglev could be built in China in the next 10 years, no more than two lines at the most.
that is a more honest assesment, I do not know about the long term future, but now they are for very few cities willing to burn money at high risk of not getting benefits and profits
 

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that is a more honest assesment, I do not know about the long term future, but now they are for very few cities willing to burn money at high risk of not getting benefits and profits
Japan is also experimenting,

But I think China may be the first
 

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Both maglevs and regional jet have no future.
E-195 only has 600km less range than C-919 and C919 it is not a regional jet and E-195, it costs USD$39 million dollars less than C919.
A-220 has 800 km more range than C919 and its a regional jet if you compare it to A-321XLR.

Aircraft are increasing range and fuel burn reducctions in E-195 is really good

The KLM Group is the largest operator of E-Jets in Europe and has led the way in sustainable operations, cutting carbon emissions by 30% per pax/km since 2005. By 2030 their ambition is to reduce their carbon footprint by at least 50% per pax/km.


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I don't u r CEO or CTO
Nor I can believe ur claim with such arguments and irrelevance
This entire post of "trust me vro" has no relevance when basic concepts being discussed and u provide no proof against it except I have spoken to baidu everything is false and propaganda
U talk with anyone I don't give a flying fuck for me once an asshole remains asshole for entire life
Who’s the founder of this company?



 

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There I name dropped. Rockdog probably knows who I am in person if he is close to Tier 1’s
 

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Both maglevs and regional jet have no future.
A220-300

E195-E2

Passengers capacity


160 seats

146 seats

Length

38.7m

41.5m

Range

6,297km

4,815km

Fuel

21,508kg

13,690kg

Cost

$91.5 million

$60.4 million (est.)


both aircraft use the same engine, E-195 has 63% the fuel of A-220 but it has 76% the range with 91% the passenger capacity and it costs 66% of A220


The Chinese aircraft has a fuel capacity of 6,582 US gal (24,917 L), while the American jet has a fuel capacity of 6,875 US gal (26,022 L).
The aircraft has a maximum takeoff weight of 72,500 kg, an empty weight of 42,100 kg, and a maximum payload of 20,400 kg. The maximum fuel tank capacity is 7,190 US gallons. The C919 is powered by twin CFM International LEAP-1C twin-spool high-bypass turbofans. Each engine produces a maximum thrust of 31,000 lbf. The standard C919 has a travel range of 2,200 nautical miles while the extended-range version is 2,999 nautical miles. The cruise speed is 450 knots.


Fact the chinese aircraft carries only 28 people more than E-195 but carries more than 200% more fuel for just only 15% more range. it is in fact less efficient than A-220
 
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