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remember china means the central nation or the core nation but sorry that title is only of Jerusalem

See the Blisk of the Leap engine made in Sonora

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or if you want we can offer you Chilies you can put in your noodles

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That's just subcontractors and suppliers,



Even large Japanese companies such as IHI are also reflecting that there is no status without core technology.



 

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That's just subcontractors and suppliers,



Even large Japanese companies such as IHI are also reflecting that there is no status without core technology.



does it mean they do not need the tooling, investment, knowledge and know how? obviously not of course to build such parts you need talent and skills and more important those blisks are high technology so much China has no leap engine equivalent only paper jet engines, it is simple we have the capability since Frisa and AT engine are making jet engine parts but what you can not comprehend is aircraft is a business based network, for us invest in a jet engine will mean such high risks that is better to be subcontractors since how many engines has China in the class of Leap ehgines and more important how many has sold and built? pretty much you are in the dust you have not built an equivalent engine and you can not compete with GE and Safran in the market, we are realistic more leap engines we get money and we are in the team we do not compete but we get money

Your engine does not exist and no one buys unproven Chinese airliners that need western subsystem to guarantee a minimun of safety
 
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does it mean they do not need the tooling, investment, knowledge and know how? obviously not of course to build such parts you need talent and skills and more important those blisks are high technology so much China has no leap engine equivalent only paper jet engines, it is simple we have the capability since Frisa and AT engine are making jet engine parts but what you can not comprehend is aircraft is a business based network, for us invest in a jet engine will mean such high risks that is better to be subcontractors since how many engines has China in the class of Leap ehgines and more important how many has sold and built? pretty much you are in the dust you have not built an equivalent engine and you can not compete with GE and Safran in the market, we are realistic more leap engines we get money and we are in the team we do not compete but we get money

Your engine does not exist and no one buys unproven Chinese airliners that need western subsystem to guarantee a minimun of safety
It depends on what is your national development strategy

China's strategy is to master all these core technologies,

Airliner engines are not difficult for China today

it is easier than landing on the moon
 

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It depends on what is your national development strategy

China's strategy is to master all these core technologies,

Airliner engines are not difficult for China today

it is easier than landing on the moon
oh you want to be masters and we want to be servants.

Chinese propaganda at its best.

You nationalistic rant is stupid, technology is not about nationalism, but economics, The USA and France trust enough in each other to build together an engine, they trust Germany and Mexico to make parts for that jet engine because all are making money, the Russians do not trust China because you are crooks. same the USA, you are not included because you are thieves, do you remember Su-27? all the car chinese clones?

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this is a Beccar-Foton bus, here you see Mexican-Chinese joint venture, why? simple the bus has parts made in Mexico, benefits both companies. is it nationalism what matters? of course not it is business, we can build buses, you too but the free trade has rules so we force you to work with us both cvompanies make money since it is for the Mexican market.

Everytrhing is business



FOTON arrives at public transportation in Mexico City in alliance with Beccar (Carrocerías Hermanos Becerra), after winning a tender for 211 buses.

The FOTON – Beccar buses will be part of the social action program “replacement of units 10 or more years old that provide collective public passenger transportation service” promoted by the CDMX Secretary of Mobility.

FOTON México and its new commercial partner Beccar will supply FOTON Beccar Urbi G2 model buses that are equipped with a Cummins ISF4 diesel engine that complies with the Euro V emissions standard.

They also have a ZF Ecolite 6-speed manual transmission, ABS+EBD braking system and have capacity for the permitted capacity of 25 people.

FOTON Beccar units integrate validators, passenger counter, emergency button, GPS, security cameras, seats for people with disabilities, space for a guide dog, as well as visual and tactile devices.

The units will circulate in the area of Azcapotzalco, Xochimilco center and Tlalpan center.

 

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It depends on what is your national development strategy

China's strategy is to master all these core technologies,

Airliner engines are not difficult for China today

it is easier than landing on the moon
Everything is business and efficiency in China so eventually aircraft engines will be cheap once China gets rolling just like computers, electronics, Solar power, EVs and HSR which everyone thought will always be expensive -- until China got into the industry :)

China will make moon landings affordable too but like HSR, it will probably be done in scale only by China:
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This picture is all one needs to know about the state of China's aviation industry :D

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It is a Y-20 FTB testing a CJ1000A :)

1) Y-20 is the only large military transport in mass production today since C-17 lines are shutdown

2) Flying testbeds for engines are extremely and preciously rare (India needed to send the Kaveri to Russia for flight tests!)

3) Other than China, no country outside the West and Russia even has a civilian turbofan that can power a civilian airliner much less already flighting it on its FTB :)
 

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In-service Y-20s are currently equipped with Russian-made engines.


Since 2006 development was assisted by the Antonov Design Bureau of Ukraine
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does it mean they do not need the tooling, investment, knowledge and know how? obviously not of course to build such parts you need talent and skills and more important those blisks are high technology so much China has no leap engine equivalent only paper jet engines, it is simple we have the capability since Frisa and AT engine are making jet engine parts but what you can not comprehend is aircraft is a business based network, for us invest in a jet engine will mean such high risks that is better to be subcontractors since how many engines has China in the class of Leap ehgines and more important how many has sold and built? pretty much you are in the dust you have not built an equivalent engine and you can not compete with GE and Safran in the market, we are realistic more leap engines we get money and we are in the team we do not compete but we get money

Your engine does not exist and no one buys unproven Chinese airliners that need western subsystem to guarantee a minimun of safety
Do you remember how did you f**k up in the J20 thread?


U kept posting basic aviation knowledge and tried to debate everyone who had no desire to debate.

But when the real Guru came, some serious guys who made scientific level pages about analysis of J20 and brought to the thread;


you kept bring same shit trying to buzz them, then you got banned.

PLZ, do not make mistake again here, like pretending you r pro....

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Two months later ....

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Everything is business and efficiency in China so eventually aircraft engines will be cheap once China gets rolling just like computers, electronics, Solar power, EVs and HSR which everyone thought will always be expensive -- until China got into the industry :)

China will make moon landings affordable too but like HSR, it will probably be done in scale only by China:
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tell me how many times, u will show this stats (pics) of HSR again nd again here... u definitely crossed 100 time posting this pic. i think mod should build a different thread for chinese EV, Y20 nd HSR, so u can post same thing again nd again there....🤭🤭😝
 
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oh you want to be masters and we want to be servants.

Chinese propaganda at its best.

You nationalistic rant is stupid, technology is not about nationalism, but economics, The USA and France trust enough in each other to build together an engine, they trust Germany and Mexico to make parts for that jet engine because all are making money, the Russians do not trust China because you are crooks. same the USA, you are not included because you are thieves, do you remember Su-27? all the car chinese clones?

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this is a Beccar-Foton bus, here you see Mexican-Chinese joint venture, why? simple the bus has parts made in Mexico, benefits both companies. is it nationalism what matters? of course not it is business, we can build buses, you too but the free trade has rules so we force you to work with us both cvompanies make money since it is for the Mexican market.

Everytrhing is business



FOTON arrives at public transportation in Mexico City in alliance with Beccar (Carrocerías Hermanos Becerra), after winning a tender for 211 buses.

The FOTON – Beccar buses will be part of the social action program “replacement of units 10 or more years old that provide collective public passenger transportation service” promoted by the CDMX Secretary of Mobility.

FOTON México and its new commercial partner Beccar will supply FOTON Beccar Urbi G2 model buses that are equipped with a Cummins ISF4 diesel engine that complies with the Euro V emissions standard.

They also have a ZF Ecolite 6-speed manual transmission, ABS+EBD braking system and have capacity for the permitted capacity of 25 people.

FOTON Beccar units integrate validators, passenger counter, emergency button, GPS, security cameras, seats for people with disabilities, space for a guide dog, as well as visual and tactile devices.

The units will circulate in the area of Azcapotzalco, Xochimilco center and Tlalpan center.

Buses are not a strategic technology



It is not under discussion
 

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Do you remember how did you f**k up in the J20 thread?


U kept posting basic aviation knowledge and tried to debate everyone who had no desire to debate.

But when the real Guru came, some serious guys who made scientific level pages about analysis of J20 and brought to the thread;


you kept bring same shit trying to buzz them, then you got banned.

PLZ, do not make mistake again here, like pretending you r pro....

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Two months later ....

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uhgm you are a pro, I ruined your propaganda party uh you are important you are from a core nation It seems you are not a pro, at this moment I have not broken any rule, but it seems you got desperate due to uncapability to keep your arguments
 

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Buses are not a strategic technology



It is not under discussion
buses are not startegic technology, it seems you have no arguements, and you pretend to be right, what about jet engines or electric cars or JAC cars it seems you do not like reality
 

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ah more propaganda, every where people die and get sick, in fact this scores only say how relatively well people have access to medical health, and an average about the expectancy of living but reality wise people die at all ages, cancer pacients will die regardless the country they live depending a lot in luck since mediceine can not cure all diseases.

Yes is true there are a bit higher chances living in the top countries there are bit more chances to live longer but people die in all ages everywhere destiny saddly can not guarantee every one to live 90 years.
 

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tell me how many times, u will show this stats (pics) of HSR again nd again here... u definitely crossed 100 time posting this pic. i think mod should build a different thread for chinese EV, Y20 nd HSR, so u can post same thing again nd again there....🤭🤭😝
Propaganda is like that posting and posting without addressing or having a discussion is the essence of Chinese propaganda

Mind your language has a really funny way to express this
 

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This picture is all one needs to know about the state of China's aviation industry :D

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It is a Y-20 FTB testing a CJ1000A :)

1) Y-20 is the only large military transport in mass production today since C-17 lines are shutdown

2) Flying testbeds for engines are extremely and preciously rare (India needed to send the Kaveri to Russia for flight tests!)

3) Other than China, no country outside the West and Russia even has a civilian turbofan that can power a civilian airliner much less already flighting it on its FTB :)
Typical propaganda


Il-76 is still in production

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of course some people does not understand A-400M has jet engines or turbo props to be more specific

Of course in propaganda world Chairman mao says China make only jet cargo in the world

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this is sexy lady teaching us about Y-20

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This picture is all one needs to know about the state of China's aviation industry :D

View attachment 231729

It is a Y-20 FTB testing a CJ1000A :)

1) Y-20 is the only large military transport in mass production today since C-17 lines are shutdown

2) Flying testbeds for engines are extremely and preciously rare (India needed to send the Kaveri to Russia for flight tests!)

3) Other than China, no country outside the West and Russia even has a civilian turbofan that can power a civilian airliner much less already flighting it on its FTB :)
by west the guy forgot GE or Rolls Royce they have suppliers making their engines international programs

Introduction Airbus (France: Airbus SAS) is currently developing the A320neo (New Engine Option), and is aiming to achieve a 15% higher fuel efficiency, a double-digit reduction in NOx emissions, and a 50% reduction in airframe noise by replacing the engine of the A320 currently in service with that of a state-of-the-art design and keeping the airframe converting cost to a minimum. Figure 1 illustrates a next-generation narrow-body commercial aircraft Airbus A320neo. The PW1100G-JM (Fig. 2) has been selected as one of the engines to be installed on the A320neo. Development of this engine began as an international collaborative project under IAE, LLC, a consortium of Pratt & Whitney (P&W, USA), the Japanese Aero Engines Corporation (JAEC), and MTU Aero Engines Holdings AG (MTU, Germany). IHI participated in the project as a member company of JAEC. In addition, JAEC is developing this engine with financial assistance from the International Aircraft Development Fund (IADF). The PW1100G-JM adopts a Geared Turbo Fan (GTF) system with an advanced gear system, and the bypass ratio has been increased to approximately 12 to achieve high propulsion efficiency. Furthermore, state-of-the-art composite materials and component technologies have been combined to deliver improvements in fuel efficiency, emissions, and noise. This paper presents an overview of the PW1100G-JM development program, as well as the engineering features of the components being developed by IHI.

he forgot iae engines v2500 have japanese participation
 

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uhgm you are a pro, I ruined your propaganda party uh you are important you are from a core nation It seems you are not a pro, at this moment I have not broken any rule, but it seems you got desperate due to uncapability to keep your arguments
Then why u got banned?
 

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