China Economy: News & Discussion

[omaebakabaka]

You have a bigger population than China but China eats 4 times more food.

You have 4X population of US but you buy 12M cars less than the US, China buys 12M cars MORE than the US.

Population is important to consumption but purchasing power is more important

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Eat ten times more and choke on your own shit and stupidity. Get you brain examined urgently. I have not seen anyone more fascinated than Chinese and Koreans comparing themselves to western benchmarks....totally dumb idiots. We have our own but organic lol

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Eat ten times more and choke on your own shit and stupidity. Get you brain examined urgently. I have not seen anyone more fascinated than Chinese and Koreans comparing themselves to western benchmarks....totally dumb idiots. We have our own but organic lol

You are making silly opinions in a world of hard numbers that is economics.

These are intricately linked.

You and China have the same population but China buys more than the US while India buys far less.

Indian people are struggling to just feed themselves while Chinese have surplus income to splurge on cars, ACs, Mate 60 Pros and $500 mermaid costumes:

 

[Azaad]

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

These are the facts:

1) Chinese produces and consumes around 4X more food than India

2) China ranks in top tier in UNICEF's Hunger Index indicating abundance of food; India ranks 111 out of 125 indicating severe lack of good. Lack of food highlights subsistence level standard of living which means little discretionary spending to support manufactured goods.

3) Both China and India have 4X population of the US. India buys only a fraction of what Americans buys but China buys multiples of what Americans buy.

Large population plus purchasing power equal high consumption rates which allows economy of scale and efficiency in manufacturing.

This is why China remains the world's factory irregardless of geo-politics. China simply has the world's largest consumer market.

Try switching from Baidu translate for better comprehension.

China doesn't produce but consumed 4x as compared to India which includes a lot of meat products which being naturally expensive boosts consumption expenditure wheras India's 35% vegetarian which obviously reflects in the lower amounts we spend on food.


And I've been posting that India's 200 out of 197 countries in the global hunger index. As far as UNICEF figures go, WHO has yet to come out with a report on the causes of the Wuhan virus pandemic in spite of multiple investigations to the satisfaction of the rest of the world.

You seem to be operating under the illusion that more is better hence greater expenditure on food consumption implies a healthier diet which I've disproved in previous posts with data on the US & China focussing on lifestyle diseases like obesity.

There was no "world factory " before 2000 , there will be none in next 2 decades. Till then enjoy your state of ephemeral economic bliss.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Try switching from Baidu translate for better comprehension.

China doesn't produce but consumed 4x as compared to India which includes a lot of meat products which being naturally expensive boosts consumption expenditure wheras India's 35% vegetarian which obviously reflects in the lower amounts we spend on food.


And I've been posting that India's 200 out of 197 countries in the global hunger index. As far as UNICEF figures go, WHO has yet to come out with a report on the causes of the Wuhan virus pandemic in spite of multiple investigations to the satisfaction of the rest of the world.

You seem to be operating under the illusion that more is better hence greater expenditure on food consumption implies a healthier diet which I've disproved in previous posts with data on the US & China focussing on lifestyle diseases like obesity.

There was no "world factory " before 2000 , there will be none in next 2 decades. Till then enjoy your state of ephemeral economic bliss.

China produced $1.5T of food. India produced $382B of food.

4 Countries That Produce the Most Food

Learn about the world's four largest food producers—China, India, the United States, and Brazil—and what sets them apart from the rest of the world.

www.investopedia.com

$1.5T divided by $382 is 3.926701570680628

More is better in terms of the economy. Nutrition is ancillary. The fact is the more food you have, the better the nutrition. But even if you ignore that, the availability of food, especially high calorie junk food, are prevalent in high consumption economies. High consumption economies are the main drivers of manufactured goods.

China has the largest population of high consumers and this leads to economy of scale and efficiency in manufactured goods unmatched anywhere.

 

[Azaad]

China produced $1.5T of food. India produced $382B of food.

4 Countries That Produce the Most Food

Learn about the world's four largest food producers—China, India, the United States, and Brazil—and what sets them apart from the rest of the world.

www.investopedia.com

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$1.5T divided by $382 is 3.926701570680628

More is better in terms of the economy. Nutrition is ancillary. The fact is the more food you have, the better the nutrition. But even if you ignore that, the availability of food, especially high calorie junk food, are prevalent in high consumption economies. High consumption economies are the main drivers of manufactured goods.

China has the largest population of high consumers and this leads to economy of scale and efficiency in manufactured goods unmatched anywhere.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• The world's top food-producing countries—China, India, the U.S., and Brazil—also rank in the top 10 by land area.1
• China is the world's largest grain producer, yet has grown more dependent on food imports in recent decades.
• Much of India's output is produced by subsistence farmers and consumed locally.
• The U.S. is the world's top food exporter thanks to high crop yields and extensive agricultural infrastructure.
• Brazil is the world's fourth-largest food producer and second-largest importer; it is heavily dependent on imports by China.

Looks like you either don't properly comprehend what I've written or what you yourself link.

Lol at more food consumption is good . That's led to a whole host of lifestyle diseases like obesity spreading rapidly across the US & is now spreading in China .

Mass high value consumption is something that's driven by the middle & upper classes which in China amounts to barely 200 million people at the most with the most wealthy being the members of the CCP included in those 200 million. Ideally this middle + upper class ought to have been a driver to raise the income levels of the rest of your countrymen thru investment entrepreneurship , etc .

Though it's happening , it hasn't been to the expected levels which is why Chinese pensioners are now expected to survive on 100 USD per month . There's no equitable distribution of income. All you have is approximately 20% of your nation live off others .

 

[ym888]

For the present with declining investments ...

 

[Azaad]

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I talk about the present state of affairs vis a vis investments where gradually alternative supply chains are being developed to China & what does Chang do? He comes up with the list of companies with the highest revenues.

 

[ym888]

I talk about the present state of affairs vis a vis investments where gradually alternative supply chains are being developed to China & what does Chang do? He comes up with the list of companies with the highest revenues.

Other countries are developing,

but there is only one world factory.

If there's a second one, please let me know, Kumar

 

[Azaad]

Other countries are developing,

but there is only one world factory.

If there's a second one, please let me know, Kumar

Best of luck being the world's factory & invading Taiwan , Chang. Remember the cut off date for it is by 2030 as per great helmsman 2.0

I sincerely hope you succeed in both.

 

[jai jaganath]

You are making silly opinions in a world of hard numbers that is economics.

These are intricately linked.
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You and China have the same population but China buys more than the US while India buys far less.

Indian people are struggling to just feed themselves while Chinese have surplus income to splurge on cars, ACs, Mate 60 Pros and $500 mermaid costumes: View attachment 226338

Brain filled with shit or what
Every year u bring this shitty report get countered and change the goal post
U guys speak about China perfect don't comment on this u don't know
My simple question have u every researched how this report is made
How grains are brought from farms to our market and exported
What's our diet
Comparing dietary habits is stupidest things which is done by u and this report

 

[ym888]

Best of luck being the world's factory & invading Taiwan , Chang. Remember the cut off date for it is by 2030 as per great helmsman 2.0

I sincerely hope you succeed in both.

Don't wait until 2030, Kumar



This has happened dozens of times at DFI

 

[Blademaster]

SexyChineseLady needs to be banned. She brings no value to this forum.

 

[omaebakabaka]

You are making silly opinions in a world of hard numbers that is economics.

These are intricately linked.
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You and China have the same population but China buys more than the US while India buys far less.

Indian people are struggling to just feed themselves while Chinese have surplus income to splurge on cars, ACs, Mate 60 Pros and $500 mermaid costumes: View attachment 226338

BUild yourself a wall as high as great wall so you keep yuour superiority and be done and leave the rest of the world alone....atleast do it on India border but do it at the border of han and not Tibetan land. You dont want your superior genetics compromised by less intelligent world.....fucking idiots. No wonder your country isn;t even respected by tiny Japan who fucked it up that you will not forget in 1000 years.

Don;t make me vomit, your beauty standards are also copied as its disgusting to begin with and that is why chinese people can;t wait to adapt every western standard there is including their dressing, fashion, names and religion. Their faces look like they were run over by trucks and turned into sauce pans. Your posts are insulting smart Chinese

Here is the Chinese that have so much plenty to eat:

 

[Azaad]

@SexyChineseLady

This is probably why you keep boasting of Chinese food consumption figures being 4x of India . Chinese are so prosperous , they waste as much as they eat , probably more than they eat .

Policy of Han - first get your hand on as much food as you can , manners etiquette etc be damned . After all anywhere between 50-100 million died in the famines accompanying the 5 pests campaign & the great leap forward Where Chinese were reduced to eating anything they could lat their hands on including dead animals bark grass & human beings including their own families . Hence Chinese can't be constrained as far as food goes .


After collecting more than what you need , you can comfortably be seated at your table & have only that much as your bellies can accomodate throwing away the rest.

 

[Azaad]

Don't wait until 2030, Kumar



This has happened dozens of times at DFI

Well you haven't yet invaded Taiwan have you Chang. Time to invade & find out .

 

[assassin162]

That is

This is not a food distribution problem but a purchasing power problem of the local population.

China's population consumes every bit of food it produces (even though it produces more than THREE TIMES more agricultural products than India.) And has to import food on top of that.

Basically, Indians cannot afford one-third of the food that China consumes and therefore its farmers are forced to find wealthier markets to export food overseas.

India has an inflation problem unlike China which make purchasing everything, including food, a major issue.

So this has nothing to do with distribution. It is a simple purchasing power or poverty issue.

4 Countries That Produce the Most Food

Learn about the world's four largest food producers—China, India, the United States, and Brazil—and what sets them apart from the rest of the world.

www.investopedia.com

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That is price of agri produce consumed and exported. This is nominal not ppp data. And does not directly relates to actual amount of food produced. It is more about what the consumers pay. With higher growth and related rise in inflation the gap in nominal terms will be suppressed even if China and India produce same amount of food as they do now.

 

[assassin162]

This is not a food distribution problem but a purchasing power problem of the local population.

China's population consumes every bit of food it produces (even though it produces more than THREE TIMES more agricultural products than India.) And has to import food on top of that.

Basically, Indians cannot afford one-third of the food that China consumes and therefore its farmers are forced to find wealthier markets to export food overseas.

India has an inflation problem unlike China which make purchasing everything, including food, a major issue.

So this has nothing to do with distribution. It is a simple purchasing power or poverty issue.

4 Countries That Produce the Most Food

Learn about the world's four largest food producers—China, India, the United States, and Brazil—and what sets them apart from the rest of the world.

www.investopedia.com

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Now out of total chinese gdp 2023. Agri percentage is around 7%. That is 1.26 trillion dollars..
Agri percentage in India in 2023 is 18.3%. That means 682 billion dollars. This does not takes into difference between inflation in both countries.

Same amount of money would not grant same amount of food in both countries.

 

[assassin162]

Sell one KG Tomato for 100 and claim we produce so much more food than Indians.......

 

[srevster]

China's two-child policy runs out of gas

Births fell 10% in 2022 as share of 2nd babies declined

asia.nikkei.com

 

[rockdog]

Thanks the good infra built in western.

China’s Factory Floor Is Moving—But Not to India or Mexico

Companies seeking alternatives to China are finding the country’s vast interior still holds big advantages.

www.wsj.com