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Mumbai as seen by Europeans

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A documentary from 2019



Hopefully it's improving now

Not at all . It's grown worse . After we're a 3rd world country. We can't afford to hire gwailou influencers to whitewash the scene like this -

Oh , before I forget , neither are we concerned too much with what they put out unlike you who keep looking to the west for validation
 

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Europeans discover Chinese culinary delights. Apparently the poor as so PISS poor they can't afford to sprinkle salt on their eggs , hence piss on them.
 
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US pressures will lead to 'golden decade' for China's semiconductor industry
 

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Correction, no Russians were involved in c929,

Russia pulled out of CR929,

This is C929

I'm not very interested in small planes



A new small aircraft factory opened in China yesterday



80% of the parts are made in China, and 100% will be made in the future

Worth $250,000, to be exported to the United States,


Assembling the aircraft is as easy as assembling a car


you fantasize because you do not know about aircraft business.

Technology is no the problem but sales.

It is a network, sales are what boost a program.

Military programs are different as long as the government of a country is willing to spend money, you get the program.


Civil aircraft are different, aircraft for export the same.

I will exemplify
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KC-390 of Embraer and Y-20

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Y-20 is for example too big and expensive for most air forces, only bought by China.

KC-390 has western parts, thus it is sold to NATO members and can be re-exported engines and avionics.


Embraer is making at least profits, but on Y-20 like Il-72, they are dependant upon government purchases, if the economy of Russia or China go down then sales go down.

Brazil is not the main market thus KC-390 has western and a wider market, also it is cheaper and fits better to most air forces needs.
 

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Correction, no Russians were involved in c929,

Russia pulled out of CR929,

This is C929

I'm not very interested in small planes



A new small aircraft factory opened in China yesterday



80% of the parts are made in China, and 100% will be made in the future

Worth $250,000, to be exported to the United States,


Assembling the aircraft is as easy as assembling a car


now let us analize the aircraft policies Brazil and China have.

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JF-17 and Embraer Phenom

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The phenom as an aircraft has 2 priorities, safety and savings

JF-17 is different safety is important but not the main issue in Phenom the safety of the crew and passengers is the main aspect to care.

economics means low fuel comsuption, Phenom needs that to compete with other jets.

JF-17 needs to fight well, be reasonably safe to fly.

But let us see JF-17 has a poor record according to latest reports

Embraer’s Phenom Is The World’s Best Selling Light Jet For 11 Consecutive Years
BYAARON BAILEY
PUBLISHED FEB 25, 2023

Remaining popular, over 700 of the aircraft have now been delivered globally.



Myanmar angry with Pakistan over 'unfit' fighter jets supplied by Islamabad: Report


add a fighter needs to win wars
 

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Correction, no Russians were involved in c929,

Russia pulled out of CR929,

This is C929

I'm not very interested in small planes



A new small aircraft factory opened in China yesterday



80% of the parts are made in China, and 100% will be made in the future

Worth $250,000, to be exported to the United States,


Assembling the aircraft is as easy as assembling a car


and the last, engines are expensive and take even longer than airframes to build and design.

Design a modern jet engine for civil aircraft requires safety and savings.

C919 has western engines because achieve safety, savings and recover the investment is not easy
 

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US pressures will lead to 'golden decade' for China's semiconductor industry
Proper innovation and competition should be always welcomed. If they do things the right way then their products will find a good market.
 

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Not at all . It's grown worse . After we're a 3rd world country. We can't afford to hire gwailou influencers to whitewash the scene like this -

Oh , before I forget , neither are we concerned too much with what they put out unlike you who keep looking to the west for validation
It is sad that Chinese beggars kneel down and beg like they are worthless garbage. Indian beggars are arrogant. They use UPI to demand money. The difference in human rights of beggars in both countries tell you that even in a flawed democracy like India, even beggars can be confident and don’t have to literally lick the shoes of the elites. Treatment of humans in China is downright disgusting as for the CCP every non-party human is just a resource to be used and thrown. Really evil and cruel.
 

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and the last, engines are expensive and take even longer than airframes to build and design.

Design a modern jet engine for civil aircraft requires safety and savings.

C919 has western engines because achieve safety, savings and recover the investment is not easy


Yes, it was difficult.



But always take the first step
 

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now let us analize the aircraft policies Brazil and China have.

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JF-17 and Embraer Phenom

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The phenom as an aircraft has 2 priorities, safety and savings

JF-17 is different safety is important but not the main issue in Phenom the safety of the crew and passengers is the main aspect to care.

economics means low fuel comsuption, Phenom needs that to compete with other jets.

JF-17 needs to fight well, be reasonably safe to fly.

But let us see JF-17 has a poor record according to latest reports

Embraer’s Phenom Is The World’s Best Selling Light Jet For 11 Consecutive Years
BYAARON BAILEY
PUBLISHED FEB 25, 2023

Remaining popular, over 700 of the aircraft have now been delivered globally.



Myanmar angry with Pakistan over 'unfit' fighter jets supplied by Islamabad: Report


add a fighter needs to win wars
Quote from Indian media reports on JF17



You can't expect to hear good words
 

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China's solar telescope array officially completed
Source: Xinhua
Editor: huaxia
2023-09-28 00:04:15

The Daocheng Solar Radio Telescope, a solar telescope array in southwest China, passed key testing on Wednesday, marking the official completion of the world's largest synthesis aperture radio telescope. (Photo provided by National Space Science Center, the Chinese Academy of Sciences)
BEIJING, Sept. 27 (Xinhua) -- The Daocheng Solar Radio Telescope, a solar telescope array in southwest China, passed key testing on Wednesday, marking the official completion of the world's largest synthesis aperture radio telescope, according to the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS).
The CAS said that the telescope array is a landmark equipment of the country's space environment ground-base comprehensive monitoring network (phase-2 Meridian Project) and will provide high-quality observation data for solar physics and space weather research in China.
In an open area at an altitude of 3,820 meters in Daocheng County, Sichuan Province, 313 parabolic antennas with a diameter of 6 meters are evenly arranged, forming a large ring with a diameter of 1 km, looking like a string of pearls lying flat on the plateau.
The testing showed that the telescope array had achieved continuous and stable solar radio imaging and spectrum observation capabilities with a maximum field of view of ten solar radii, and all technical indicators met or exceeded design requirements.
A solar radius is a unit of distance in astronomy equal to the current radius of the Sun, approximately 695,500 km.
"When the Sun sneezes, Earth may catch a cold," said Yan Jingye, director of the project from the CAS.

The Daocheng Solar Radio Telescope, a solar telescope array in southwest China, passed key testing on Wednesday, marking the official completion of the world's largest synthesis aperture radio telescope. (Photo provided by National Space Science Center, the Chinese Academy of Sciences)
He noted that the changes in the space environment caused by solar activities on a short time scale are referred to as space weather. High-quality monitoring and prediction of space weather are of great significance for the smooth operation of high-tech systems such as space projects and satellite communication.
According to Yan, the telescope array can monitor various solar eruptions and the process of solar storms entering interstellar space, which helps to predict and assess the impact of solar activity on Earth by understanding the mechanism of solar eruptions and the laws of solar storm propagation from Sun to Earth.
Besides monitoring solar activities, the telescope array will also conduct joint observations with other major national scientific and technological infrastructure, including the FAST telescope (China Sky Eye) in Guizhou Province, China's deep-space observation radar facility (China Compound Eye) in Chongqing Municipality, and Sanya Incoherent Scatter Radar in Hainan Province. Enditem
 

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Quote from Indian media reports on JF17



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or what about they are true

Reports from Myanmar-based Narinjara News suggest that the military junta in Myanmar has expressed dissatisfaction with the JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighter planes supplied by Pakistan, deeming them unfit for operation. Sources reveal that a stern message has been conveyed to Islamabad to address the issues.
 

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Yes, it was difficult.



But always take the first step
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The reality is economics force cooperation.

In the case of CR-929/C929 two partners share risks, however the reality is disagreements are the most likely reason they stop cooperation.

Cooperation reduces costs of R&D and increase potential sales.

Even the USA cooperates.

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New Russian PD-8 engine begins flight testing on an Il-76LL

For Russia developing the PD-8 from PD-14 only makes sense if lots of aircraft are powered by the engines, also considers PD-8 is a less powerful engine than PD-14

If PD-35 is develop for CR-929 then you need a large number of aircraft powered by it.

China wants to powered it with local engines and Russia was unwilling to share technology.

So now CR-929 will cost more to China.

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on B787 you can see why japanese airliners fly it

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Buying Boeing means buying Japaneese
 

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This is EAST ASIA!

Esports is a major event at the Hangzhou ASIADS!!!

Arrival of Korean League of Legend great Faker:

 

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China lost to Korea in the semis of the LoL event now can only get a bronze at most 😭

So far at the Asian Games:
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Proud of Hong Kong! City has the fifth most medals!!!

Sad for Taiwan 😭
 

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or what about they are true

Reports from Myanmar-based Narinjara News suggest that the military junta in Myanmar has expressed dissatisfaction with the JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighter planes supplied by Pakistan, deeming them unfit for operation. Sources reveal that a stern message has been conveyed to Islamabad to address the issues.
Narinjara News
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https://www.loc.gov › item › lcwaN0006513




Narinjara News is an e-mail news service based in Dhaka and set up by a number of Arakanese democratic activists in exile in September 2001. Created / Published.
 

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The reality is economics force cooperation.

In the case of CR-929/C929 two partners share risks, however the reality is disagreements are the most likely reason they stop cooperation.

Cooperation reduces costs of R&D and increase potential sales.

Even the USA cooperates.

View attachment 224145
New Russian PD-8 engine begins flight testing on an Il-76LL

For Russia developing the PD-8 from PD-14 only makes sense if lots of aircraft are powered by the engines, also considers PD-8 is a less powerful engine than PD-14

If PD-35 is develop for CR-929 then you need a large number of aircraft powered by it.

China wants to powered it with local engines and Russia was unwilling to share technology.

So now CR-929 will cost more to China.

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on B787 you can see why japanese airliners fly it

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Buying Boeing means buying Japaneese
Russia has been sanctioned by the West and is no longer fit to be a partner.



The c929 will have Western parts as well as Russian parts.





On September 28, the foundation stone of the C929 aircraft System Integrated test Laboratory of Shanghai Aircraft Design and Research Institute of COMAC was officially laid

The laboratory will undertake virtual and physical integrated testing tasks such as mechanical, electrical, electronic and flight quality of the whole aircraft of the C929 project, and undertake integration testing tasks of avionics, flight control, hydraulic, landing gear and electrical systems, to meet the development needs of the whole life cycle of C929 aircraft technology research, research and design, airworthiness certification and operation. It is the key support and important guarantee for the success of C929 project.

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