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During the Ukraine war, lots of key manufactures running out of EU to China and US.

According to the latest data from MOFCOM, EU investments in China grew by a staggering 92.2 percent year-on-year in 2022. Investments from Germany grew 52.9 percent year-on-year.

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France pushed this investigation because they had lillte share in EV, and most brands from Germany opposited it, they sold 6 million cars in China every year.

If they loss local automobile market, they almost nothing left. But of course, some low end brand like SEAT need to be eliminated anyway.

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The trend is good for EVs from US, China, Germany.


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I will answer you quickly, from history, you know a rising power has to break through stablished powers, the outcome is that power is supressed or becomes dominant.

Russia is a declining power, China a rising power, the USA-EU axis is the dominant power call it NATO.

Will China become dominant?
Answer not, simple answer, China nor Russia will defeat NATO.

Why? simple like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, China is not friend of Russia or India.

The rest is up to you.
 

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GII Science and Technology Clusters: Tokyo-Yokohama Tops Ranking; China Now Home to Greatest Number
Geneva, September 20, 2023
PR/2023/907

All of the world’s five biggest science and technology (S&T) clusters are now located in East Asia, with Tokyo-Yokohama leading the ranking and China emerging as the country with the greatest number of clusters, according to an early release from the 2023 edition of WIPO’s Global Innovation Index (GII).

Each year, the GII ranks the top-level innovative capacity of countries and economies around the world. In a pre-release ahead of a September 27, 2023 launch, the Global Innovation Index (GII) “S&T Cluster” ranking PDF, GII 2023 S&T Clusters Chapter identifies local concentrations of world-leading science and technology activity.

Tokyo-Yokohama (Japan) leads as the largest global S&T cluster, followed by Shenzhen-Hong Kong-Guangzhou (China and Hong Kong, China), Seoul (Republic of Korea), followed by China’s Beijing and Shanghai-Suzhou clusters.

All five top clusters are in East Asia, with the San Jose-San Francisco cluster in the US at number six.

Science and technology clusters are among the most-critical components for the innovation performance of any economy. By bringing science, businesses and entrepreneurs together, these cities or regions are able to build an ecosystem that translates scientific ideas into on-the-ground impact.
It is also heartening to see that these S&T clusters are growing at a particularly fast pace in emerging economies.
WIPO Director General Daren Tang
Video: View the 10 biggest GII Science and Technology Clusters
Video: What is the Global Innovation Index (GII)?
Top 15 Global GII S&T Clusters by Size
RankCluster nameEconomy
1Tokyo–YokohamaJP
2Shenzhen–Hong Kong–GuangzhouCN/HK
3SeoulKR
4BeijingCN
5Shanghai–SuzhouCN
6San Jose–San Francisco, CAUS
7Osaka–Kobe–KyotoJP
8Boston–Cambridge, MAUS
9San Diego, CAUS
10New York City, NYUS
11NanjingCN
12ParisFR
13WuhanCN
14HangzhouCN
15NagoyaJP
The Cambridge cluster in the United Kingdom and San Jose-San Francisco, CA in the United States are found to be the clusters with the most intensive S&T activity, in proportion to population density, followed by Oxford (UK), Eindhoven (Netherlands) and Boston–Cambridge (US).

In other findings:
  • This year, the GII identifies 24 S&T clusters in China, up from the 21 last year, as the country boasting the greatest number of clusters, with Shenzhen–Hong Kong–Guangzhou, Beijing Shanghai–Suzhou, and Shenzhen–Hong Kong–Guangzhou and Nanjing leading.
  • The US has 21 among the top 100, Germany 9, and Japan, Canada, India and the Republic of Korea each have 4, with San Jose–San Francisco leading for the US, Munich for Germany, Tokyo-Yokohama for Japan, Toronto for Canada, Bengaluru for India, and Seoul for the Republic of Korea.
  • S&T clusters located in other middle-income economies besides China also saw strong S&T output growth, notably in India which has four top S&T clusters, with Chennai and Bengaluru experiencing the biggest increases in density of inventors and scientific authors.
  • S&T clusters in certain emerging economies grew at a particularly fast pace, including Brazil, India, Türkiye and, beyond the top 100, in Argentina, Egypt, Thailand and others.
Economies with three or more top 100 S&T clusters, 2023:
EconomyEconomy nameTop 100 clusters
CNChina24
USUnited States of America21
DEGermany9
JPJapan4
CACanada4
INIndia4
KRRepublic of Korea4
FRFrance3
GBUnited Kingdom3
AUAustralia3
Browse detailed briefs on each GII S&T top global clusters including information on the main scientific and patenting contributors or enterprises.

About GII Science and Technology Clusters
Science and technology clusters are established through the analysis of patent-filing activity and scientific article publication, documenting the geographical areas around the world with the highest density of inventors and scientific authors.

WIPO locates and ranks science and technology clusters through a geocoding method, mapping addresses and names pulled from documents to a 96% accuracy.

The GII science and technology clusters are one element in the larger GII, which takes the pulse of the most recent trends in global innovation. The report ranks the innovation ecosystem performance of economies around the globe each year, while highlighting innovation strengths and weaknesses and particular gaps in innovation metrics. To capture as complete a picture of innovation as possible, the GII comprises around 80 indicators, including measures on the political environment, education, infrastructure and knowledge creation of each economy.

The GII can be used to monitor performance and benchmark developments against economies within the same region or income group classification.



About WIPO
The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the global forum for intellectual property policy, services, information and cooperation. A specialized agency of the United Nations, WIPO assists its 193 member states in developing a balanced international IP legal framework to meet society's evolving needs. It provides business services for obtaining IP rights in multiple countries and resolving disputes. It delivers capacity-building programs to help developing countries benefit from using IP. And it provides free access to unique knowledge banks of IP information.
For more information, please contact the News and Media Division at WIPO:
 

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I will answer you quickly, from history, you know a rising power has to break through stablished powers, the outcome is that power is supressed or becomes dominant.

Russia is a declining power, China a rising power, the USA-EU axis is the dominant power call it NATO.

Will China become dominant?
Answer not, simple answer, China nor Russia will defeat NATO.

Why? simple like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, China is not friend of Russia or India.

The rest is up to you.
We talked about EV as specific micro economy topic rite? I have no interest for ur illogical answer, since no one claimed those question.
 

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GII Science and Technology Clusters: Tokyo-Yokohama Tops Ranking; China Now Home to Greatest Number
Geneva, September 20, 2023
PR/2023/907

All of the world’s five biggest science and technology (S&T) clusters are now located in East Asia, with Tokyo-Yokohama leading the ranking and China emerging as the country with the greatest number of clusters, according to an early release from the 2023 edition of WIPO’s Global Innovation Index (GII).

Each year, the GII ranks the top-level innovative capacity of countries and economies around the world. In a pre-release ahead of a September 27, 2023 launch, the Global Innovation Index (GII) “S&T Cluster” ranking PDF, GII 2023 S&T Clusters Chapter identifies local concentrations of world-leading science and technology activity.

Tokyo-Yokohama (Japan) leads as the largest global S&T cluster, followed by Shenzhen-Hong Kong-Guangzhou (China and Hong Kong, China), Seoul (Republic of Korea), followed by China’s Beijing and Shanghai-Suzhou clusters.

All five top clusters are in East Asia, with the San Jose-San Francisco cluster in the US at number six.


Video: View the 10 biggest GII Science and Technology Clusters
Video: What is the Global Innovation Index (GII)?
Top 15 Global GII S&T Clusters by Size
RankCluster nameEconomy
1Tokyo–YokohamaJP
2Shenzhen–Hong Kong–GuangzhouCN/HK
3SeoulKR
4BeijingCN
5Shanghai–SuzhouCN
6San Jose–San Francisco, CAUS
7Osaka–Kobe–KyotoJP
8Boston–Cambridge, MAUS
9San Diego, CAUS
10New York City, NYUS
11NanjingCN
12ParisFR
13WuhanCN
14HangzhouCN
15NagoyaJP
The Cambridge cluster in the United Kingdom and San Jose-San Francisco, CA in the United States are found to be the clusters with the most intensive S&T activity, in proportion to population density, followed by Oxford (UK), Eindhoven (Netherlands) and Boston–Cambridge (US).

In other findings:
  • This year, the GII identifies 24 S&T clusters in China, up from the 21 last year, as the country boasting the greatest number of clusters, with Shenzhen–Hong Kong–Guangzhou, Beijing Shanghai–Suzhou, and Shenzhen–Hong Kong–Guangzhou and Nanjing leading.
  • The US has 21 among the top 100, Germany 9, and Japan, Canada, India and the Republic of Korea each have 4, with San Jose–San Francisco leading for the US, Munich for Germany, Tokyo-Yokohama for Japan, Toronto for Canada, Bengaluru for India, and Seoul for the Republic of Korea.
  • S&T clusters located in other middle-income economies besides China also saw strong S&T output growth, notably in India which has four top S&T clusters, with Chennai and Bengaluru experiencing the biggest increases in density of inventors and scientific authors.
  • S&T clusters in certain emerging economies grew at a particularly fast pace, including Brazil, India, Türkiye and, beyond the top 100, in Argentina, Egypt, Thailand and others.
Economies with three or more top 100 S&T clusters, 2023:
EconomyEconomy nameTop 100 clusters
CNChina24
USUnited States of America21
DEGermany9
JPJapan4
CACanada4
INIndia4
KRRepublic of Korea4
FRFrance3
GBUnited Kingdom3
AUAustralia3
Browse detailed briefs on each GII S&T top global clusters including information on the main scientific and patenting contributors or enterprises.

About GII Science and Technology Clusters
Science and technology clusters are established through the analysis of patent-filing activity and scientific article publication, documenting the geographical areas around the world with the highest density of inventors and scientific authors.

WIPO locates and ranks science and technology clusters through a geocoding method, mapping addresses and names pulled from documents to a 96% accuracy.

The GII science and technology clusters are one element in the larger GII, which takes the pulse of the most recent trends in global innovation. The report ranks the innovation ecosystem performance of economies around the globe each year, while highlighting innovation strengths and weaknesses and particular gaps in innovation metrics. To capture as complete a picture of innovation as possible, the GII comprises around 80 indicators, including measures on the political environment, education, infrastructure and knowledge creation of each economy.

The GII can be used to monitor performance and benchmark developments against economies within the same region or income group classification.



About WIPO
The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the global forum for intellectual property policy, services, information and cooperation. A specialized agency of the United Nations, WIPO assists its 193 member states in developing a balanced international IP legal framework to meet society's evolving needs. It provides business services for obtaining IP rights in multiple countries and resolving disputes. It delivers capacity-building programs to help developing countries benefit from using IP. And it provides free access to unique knowledge banks of IP information.
For more information, please contact the News and Media Division at WIPO:
Most of this WIPO nonsense ranking is based on the number of patents filed (not even approved). Plus India does not allow WIPO’s definition of IP in several industries including pharmaceuticals. Only 1% of patents filed have any value at all and even within that only 0.0001% have a substantial value.
99% have zero value. Anyone measuring innovation by the number of patents filed or granted cannot be taken seriously. Innovation comes from individuals who do things differently and make that into a success for humanity’s growth and development. China has done nothing - you have not even discovered one new drug or a new material or new ways to transmit energy or anything like that. These rankings are absolutely useless. This is all just CCP chasing numbers. Not impressed.
 

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The thing is EV battery safety which BYD is infamous for.
Tesla Model Y Crowned Europe's Best-Selling Car Overall In H1 2023

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We talked about EV as specific micro economy topic rite? I have no interest for ur illogical answer, since no one claimed those question.
you do not understand the whole picture, EV markets have shown Europe will impose tariffs, the USA will impose embargo on electronic chips.


In a perfect world we should all cooperate, but we are talking about hungry people for power, who are not willing to relinquish their power, China is exactly the new Japan of 1920s but in 2020s,

Will it have victory? no China will have a rise and a decline,

you can not undersatand the whole picture, i do not blame you want you country to advance, live better, but saddly you are affecting already the interests of the West, and saddly you fell for the hype China will be the superpower, indeed is a super power but saddly it can not replace the current super powers, they will clash, China will be among the losers
 

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When the EU launched an investigation into Chinese electric car subsidies, Brussels wanted the world to know that it will protect the automotive sector that is the jewel in Europe's industrial crown, even if it upsets Beijing.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen was resolute when she announced the probe on September 13, denouncing unfair practices that undercut European competitors, but sparked an angry retort from China.

Beijing warned the investigation would harm trade ties and accused the EU of "naked protectionism", triggering fears of a trade war.

Those tensions will no doubt be there when EU trade commissioner Valdis Dombrovskis heads to China for a four-day visit starting Saturday to Shanghai, Suzhou and Beijing.


Dombrovskis has sought to mollify Beijing, insisting that Europe wants to "keep dialogue open" with China.

The EU faces an almost impossible balancing act in its relations with China, which the bloc variously describes as a partner on global issues, an economic competitor and a systemic rival.


On one hand, Brussels wants to maintain ties with Beijing to help resolve issues it believes can only be solved on a global level, such as climate change.

On the other, the EU is seeking to reduce its dependence on China, heeding lessons from its past over-reliance on Russia for fossil fuels.

Experts say this latest move demonstrates that the EU is willing to take action in line with its oft-repeated claim that it will "de-risk" but not "decouple" from China.

"This is sufficiently aggressive for it to have been carefully thought through," Elvire Fabry, a researcher at Jacques Delors Institute, told AFP.

Without presuming the probe's outcome, Fabry said she did not believe the commission would have "taken such a step without already having a solid basis", pointing to China's massive subsidies in many parts of its economy.

- Changing gears -

The driving force behind von der Leyen's announcement was the EU's bitter experience with China over solar panels.

During her speech last week, she pointed to firms pushed out by cheaper Chinese solar panels that flooded the European market in the late 2000s, while others were forced to file for bankruptcy.

The car industry is significant for Europe, providing direct and indirect jobs to around 14 million Europeans, some 6.1 percent of all EU employment.

China's carmakers are a growing threat, and this year it became the world's largest exporter of cars, overtaking Japan for the first time.

The share of Chinese electric car brands in Europe is surging, reaching 6.1 percent between January and July this year, according to automotive data company Jato Dynamics, rising from a low base of 0.5 percent in 2019.

China's success is in large part due to its early investment in batteries and its domination of critical raw materials used in much clean tech.

The EU is also rushing to pass a law to move away from relying on China for key materials such as lithium as part of a broader approach to bring more production to Europe and diversify its trading partners.

- 'Unfounded' claims -

Not everyone is convinced that China is guilty of unfair practices.

Ferdinand Dudenhoeffer, an expert at the Center Automotive Research in Germany, accused von der Leyen of making "unfounded" claims, stressing that China's success was due to "long-term" thinking and a "very strong" focus on developing electric cars.

France pushed for a probe because "the French car industry is almost invisible in China", Dudenhoeffer said, accusing Paris of seeking to protect its manufacturers at the expense of Germany's carmakers, since 40 percent of their sales are in China.

The EU will decide over the next 13 months whether to slap tariffs on Chinese electric cars above the standard 10 percent EU rate if it concludes there are unfair practices.

"If everything becomes very confrontational and tariffs, etc are applied immediately, that would be something to which China could react and therefore trade links between Europe and China could be put at stake," said Simone Tagliapietra, a senior fellow at the Bruegel think tank.

But if Europe manages this in a more cooperative manner, "this wouldn't necessarily harm European industry", he added.

According to Bruegel, the commission has launched 342 subsidy investigations since 2008 against imports from China, of which 101 led to no countervailing duties.

"It is not to be taken for granted that an investigation will actually result in a procedure," Tagliapietra said.

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(Bloomberg) -- The European Union needs to investigate Chinese support for electric vehicles as a result of the massive subsidies it provides the industry, according to the head of the bloc’s executive arm.
“We like competition but it has to be fair competition,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in an interview with Bloomberg. “What we see is massive subsidies in the EV sector in China, which is of course unleveling our playing field.”


The commission announced an anti-subsidy probe last week, which could lead not only to tariffs on made-in-China EV imports, but retaliation from Beijing as well. The EU’s probe underscores its difficulties in fostering trade ties with the world’s second-biggest economy while also guarding against perceived supply chain and national security risks.

Beijing has called the move, which may trigger import tariffs on Chinese vehicles, “a naked act of protectionism.” If tariffs are imposed, China’s most powerful response would be to restrict access to its vast market — something that would hit German automakers hardest as they sold 4.6 million cars there last year.

The EU’s trade chief Valdis Dombrovskis will shortly head to China to discuss pressing issues including the EV subsidies, von der Leyen said.

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told Bloomberg Television on Sunday that the EU must reduce its reliance on China and that she supports the EVs investigation.“If you are bound too closely it can endanger yourself.” She added that “cutting down on our dependency” was necessary with a country like Russia that invaded Ukraine, “but also now with regard to China.”

The investigation marks the first concrete step to beat back rival state support for green technologies after more than a year of ever larger subsidies in the US, China, the UK and Europe.

The EV probe against China is part of a broader EU effort to “de-risk” the relationship without “de-coupling.” This has included restricting sales of high-end semiconductors and implementing export controls related to quantum computing and artificial intelligence. The bloc has also put in place new instruments to address China’s coercive practices.


With China the biggest market for Volkswagen AG and other German carmakers, tangling with Beijing could be risky. BMW AG imports its battery-powered iX3 from China, with Mini models due to follow. The Munich-based carmaker generated 33% of its operating profit from the country last year, followed by Porsche, VW and Mercedes-Benz, analysts at Citigroup Inc. estimated in a note late last month.

Speaking of the state support provided to the Chinese EV industry, von der Leyen said: “We don’t accept this in the internal market for our companies so we also don’t accept it for Chinese companies and therefore the investigation now for subsidies for EVs in China.”

--With assistance from John Follain.

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you do not understand the whole picture, EV markets have shown Europe will impose tariffs, the USA will impose embargo on electronic chips.
10 yrs ago, China dosen't have a card named “Automobile industry export to EU”, now it has, then we would exchange something with EU.

EU did made heavy tariff on Chinese solar panels 15 yrs ago, but what now? 98% of EU brands are dead.

So the negociation will end up with compromises, like more tariff below $20,000 or something similar, like more intergrations with supply chains, or buying more EV techs from China, and China build more facotries in EU, this is how the mordern business running. Both sides have huge investments on China and EU, so don't overestimate it, it wouldn't be a big deal.

Keep on posting the same contents dosen't change the situation, only made urself comfortable.

Let me repeat again, during 1980s' when angry US workers burning Japanese cars, it's not the failure of Japan industry, it's a victory.



Will it have victory? no China will have a rise and a decline,

you can not undersatand the whole picture, i do not blame you want you country to advance, live better, but saddly you are affecting already the interests of the West, and saddly you fell for the hype China will be the superpower, indeed is a super power but saddly it can not replace the current super powers, they will clash, China will be among the losers
I don't wanna dabate with you for future or big picture, this is economic thread. There are two reasons:

1. U r neither from China, India, USA those current or coming economic powers, reading Internet news dosen't help you see the whole picture.

I would debate with Indian members on specific economic issues right happened in India or China market, can you?

U don't even own a car for whatever reason, how would you understand the trend on IT, internet, IA, Engery, mass manufacuters....

2. U r from former colonized developing nations, but u see you are part of premier western world, and help them to worry about China and concluded the final result for them, I don't understand such kind of mindset.

Somebody raped you, you are worried the one who raped you not doing good buisness in market?

It's really made me feel bizarre, a kind of b**chness or servility?
 
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Huawei was the big player in surveillance chips, large share of HIKvision came from Huawei before US's sanctions. Now it's back, after Huawei's own secret factory break the 7nm tech. The world is really changing fast.

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This is what i said during July 2023:

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Tesla Model Y Crowned Europe's Best-Selling Car Overall In H1 2023

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We have seen this before. The Y model is a low end Tesla and Tesla is putting that in there after safety modifications by Tesla engineers to reduce the risk of fire. Talk to me when Tesla puts a CATL battery in their regular cars. Not happening until BYD can get its battery quality up.
However I am happy that Europeans have become poor enough to be able to afford only unsafe Chinese EVs. This means that Indian EVs have a great chance of success in Europe. I am sure Indian and foreign EV manufacturers in India are exploring selling into this market after the EU increases tariff on Chinese EVs.
 

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10 yrs ago, China dosen't have a card named “Automobile industry export to EU”, now it has, then we would exchange something with EU.

EU did made heavy tariff on Chinese solar panels 15 yrs ago, but what now? 98% of EU brands are dead.

So the negociation will end up with compromises, like more tariff below $20,000 or something similar, like more intergrations with supply chains, or buying more EV techs from China, and China build more facotries in EU, this is how the mordern business running. Both sides have huge investments on China and EU, so don't overestimate it, it wouldn't be a big deal.

Keep on posting the same contents dosen't change the situation, only made urself comfortable.

Let me repeat again, during 1980s' when angry US workers burning Japanese cars, it's not the failure of Japan industry, it's a victory.





I don't wanna dabate with you for future or big picture, this is economic thread. There are two reasons:

1. U r neither from China, India, USA those current or coming economic powers, reading Internet news dosen't help you see the whole picture.

I would debate with Indian members on specific economic issues right happened in India or China market, can you?

U don't even own a car for whatever reason, how would you understand the trend on IT, internet, IA, Engery, mass manufacuters....

2. U r from former colonized developing nations, but u see you are part of premier western world, and help them to worry about China and concluded the final result for them, I don't understand such kind of mindset.

Somebody raped you, you are worried the one who raped you not doing good buisness in market?

It's really made me feel bizarre, a kind of b**chness or servility?
you can not understand nor will understand you judge with th eyes, your vision is the now and only now, do you use wisdom? obviously not, thr geopolitics are more complex, but easy to see to who knows history, and wisdom is only obtained if you look for true, since I know you can not understand is better let you think you are wise, better to think the now is eternity, I will tell you this the greatest mistake China has is no true friend of Russia, and the greatest card the west has, is Russia is like Italy in WWII it will switch sides, but it will only benefit NATO and the world government, something you can not comprehend nor will comprehend because you are living the now only now
 

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you can not understand nor will understand you judge with th eyes, your vision is the now and only now, do you use wisdom? obviously not, thr geopolitics are more complex, but easy to see to who knows history, and wisdom is only obtained if you look for true, since I know you can not understand is better let you think you are wise, better to think the now is eternity, I will tell you this the greatest mistake China has is no true friend of Russia, and the greatest card the west has, is Russia is like Italy in WWII it will switch sides, but it will only benefit NATO and the world government, something you can not comprehend nor will comprehend because you are living the now only now
Why u always concern Russia's relationship with China? Felt unhappy with Russia replies on China recently? Go and tell Putin as you wish.

It's not China's "mistake" to have closer relation with Russia, it's Russia's decision that after launched the war, it would only make friends with China and India.


America Can’t Stop China’s Rise And it should stop trying.


There’s little doubt that the American government has decided to slow China’s economic rise, most notably in the fields of technological development. To be sure, the Biden administration denies that these are its goals. Janet Yellen said on April 20, “China’s economic growth need not be incompatible with U.S. economic leadership. The United States remains the most dynamic and prosperous economy in the world. We have no reason to fear healthy economic competition with any country.” And Jake Sullivan said on April 27, “Our export controls will remain narrowly focused on technology that could tilt the military balance. We are simply ensuring that U.S. and allied technology is not used against us.”

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(Bloomberg) -- The European Union needs to investigate Chinese support for electric vehicles as a result of the massive subsidies it provides the industry, according to the head of the bloc’s executive arm.
“We like competition but it has to be fair competition,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in an interview with Bloomberg. “What we see is massive subsidies in the EV sector in China, which is of course unleveling our playing field.”


The commission announced an anti-subsidy probe last week, which could lead not only to tariffs on made-in-China EV imports, but retaliation from Beijing as well. The EU’s probe underscores its difficulties in fostering trade ties with the world’s second-biggest economy while also guarding against perceived supply chain and national security risks.

Beijing has called the move, which may trigger import tariffs on Chinese vehicles, “a naked act of protectionism.” If tariffs are imposed, China’s most powerful response would be to restrict access to its vast market — something that would hit German automakers hardest as they sold 4.6 million cars there last year.

The EU’s trade chief Valdis Dombrovskis will shortly head to China to discuss pressing issues including the EV subsidies, von der Leyen said.

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told Bloomberg Television on Sunday that the EU must reduce its reliance on China and that she supports the EVs investigation.“If you are bound too closely it can endanger yourself.” She added that “cutting down on our dependency” was necessary with a country like Russia that invaded Ukraine, “but also now with regard to China.”

The investigation marks the first concrete step to beat back rival state support for green technologies after more than a year of ever larger subsidies in the US, China, the UK and Europe.

The EV probe against China is part of a broader EU effort to “de-risk” the relationship without “de-coupling.” This has included restricting sales of high-end semiconductors and implementing export controls related to quantum computing and artificial intelligence. The bloc has also put in place new instruments to address China’s coercive practices.

With China the biggest market for Volkswagen AG and other German carmakers, tangling with Beijing could be risky. BMW AG imports its battery-powered iX3 from China, with Mini models due to follow. The Munich-based carmaker generated 33% of its operating profit from the country last year, followed by Porsche, VW and Mercedes-Benz, analysts at Citigroup Inc. estimated in a note late last month.

Speaking of the state support provided to the Chinese EV industry, von der Leyen said: “We don’t accept this in the internal market for our companies so we also don’t accept it for Chinese companies and therefore the investigation now for subsidies for EVs in China.”

--With assistance from John Follain.

Most Read from Bloomberg Businessweek

©2023 Bloomberg L.P.


Some of my friends worked in solar panel industry for 15 yrs, went through the whole trade war.

Have you ever running a solar panel factory? Be an officer for taking charge of forgein trade affairs in a city?

I still keep lots of government documents about how to react to EU's tariff policy at moment in my computer, and also the taxation/subsidy sheets.

Did you ever view the world at this level? Or just use keyboard?



The EU lost a trade war with China 10 years ago. Has it learned?

 
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Why u always concern Russia's relationship with China? Felt unhappy with Russia replies on China recently? Go and tell Putin as you wish.

It's not China's "mistake" to have closer relation with Russia, it's Russia's decision that after launched the war, it would only make friends with China and India.


America Can’t Stop China’s Rise And it should stop trying.


There’s little doubt that the American government has decided to slow China’s economic rise, most notably in the fields of technological development. To be sure, the Biden administration denies that these are its goals. Janet Yellen said on April 20, “China’s economic growth need not be incompatible with U.S. economic leadership. The United States remains the most dynamic and prosperous economy in the world. We have no reason to fear healthy economic competition with any country.” And Jake Sullivan said on April 27, “Our export controls will remain narrowly focused on technology that could tilt the military balance. We are simply ensuring that U.S. and allied technology is not used against us.”

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yoiu are too naive, since you are a patriotic and jingoistic chinese.

your geopolitical view is too basic, you think it is China versus USA and EU is no power and same is Russia or India and this is the Chinese century, well that is common chinese nationalism.


Reality is it is global world government versus the last remaining regional powers.

BRICS is a part of the world government lead by the genious of Putin, however the world government is going after him, while China dreams it will lead BRICS, China forgets the world government and the world army NATO, know BRICS has in China its best ally why? because China is not friend of Russia, nor of India.

Trying to impose the yuan versus the dollar is just a pipe dream of Beigjing.


The world government saddly will win.
 

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