China Economy: News & Discussion

[Azaad]

I think the quesiton is, does India has 37 millionb students everyyear? which is 4x than China?

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From first year college to post graduation levels , what is a population of 37 million in a nation of 1.4 billion ? In terms of the total population it amounts to 2.5 % . Is that impossible according to you ?

 

[srevster]

@rockdog IGNOU's enrollment has doubled in recent years, to as many as 4 million students,

This is the number of students in a single university. So 37 million students per year for the entire country of india is quite normal

 

[srevster]

Correction: 7 million students in a single university

 

[rockdog]

From first year college to post graduation levels , what is a population of 37 million in a nation of 1.4 billion ? In terms of the total population it amounts to 2.5 % . Is that impossible according to you ?

well, so why comparing China's each yr graduation students with the whole yrs in colleges with India?

 

[jai jaganath]

I think the quesiton is, does India has 37 millionb students everyyear? which is 4x than China?

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Ig understanding issues btw Chinese and Indian members
The data he stated is right but wrong comparison 37.6 million is total number of graduates in India
If we really want to compare then
In 2021 China produced 8.3 million graduates basically for undergrads
In 2020 India produced 6.91 million graduates basically for undergrads
So expect this number to produced every year with some increments
I hope now confusion is clear but India 2021 data isn't available similarly Chinese 2020 data so this is most nearest comparison

But like we have 37.6 million grads in total how many does China coz that data o couldn't find

 

[ym888]

Ig understanding issues btw Chinese and Indian members
The data he stated is right but wrong comparison 37.6 million is total number of graduates in India
If we really want to compare then
In 2021 China produced 8.3 million graduates basically for undergrads
In 2020 India produced 6.91 million graduates basically for undergrads
So expect this number to produced every year with some increments
I hope now confusion is clear but India 2021 data isn't available similarly Chinese 2020 data so this is most nearest comparison

But like we have 37.6 million grads in total how many does China coz that data o couldn't find

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics show that in 2022, China's undergraduate and junior college students enrolled 10.145 million students, 36.594 million students, and the number of graduates was 9.673 million. In contrast, the number of graduate students in 2022 will be 1.242 million, the number of students will be 3.654 million, and the number of graduates will be 862,000

 

[ym888]

@rockdog IGNOU's enrollment has doubled in recent years, to as many as 4 million students,

This is the number of students in a single university. So 37 million students per year for the entire country of india is quite normal

India has 23 million births per year


So there can't be 37 million college graduates every year

 

[srevster]

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics show that in 2022, China's undergraduate and junior college students enrolled 10.145 million students, 36.594 million students, and the number of graduates was 9.673 million. In contrast, the number of graduate students in 2022 will be 1.242 million, the number of students will be 3.654 million, and the number of graduates will be 862,000

Lol, that’s so low compared to India

 

[ym888]

Lol, that’s so low compared to India

Yes.



37 million a year

 

[jai jaganath]

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics show that in 2022, China's undergraduate and junior college students enrolled 10.145 million students, 36.594 million students, and the number of graduates was 9.673 million. In contrast, the number of graduate students in 2022 will be 1.242 million, the number of students will be 3.654 million, and the number of graduates will be 862,000

That's what I am saying 8.3 in 2021(China) vs 6.9 in 2020(India)
More or less similar numbers

 

[jai jaganath]

Lol, that’s so low compared to India

No bro 37 million is total number of graduates from certain year till today

 

[ym888]

That's what I am saying 8.3 in 2021(China) vs 6.9 in 2020(India)
More or less similar numbers

right



This is closer to the truth

 

[srevster]

China’s college-aged population to decline through 2025

China has been the key driver of overall growth in international student mobility over the last two decades...

monitor.icef.com

China’s college going age group will decline from 176 million to 106 million, your enrollments will decline by 40%

in contrast, India’s college going age group will reach 420 million

 

[srevster]

No bro 37 million is total number of graduates from certain year till today

Lmao, enrollment is different than graduates

 

[srevster]

Ministry of Education releases All India Survey on Higher Education (AISHE) 2020-2021


Enrollment in higher education increases to 4.14 crore, crossing the 4 crore mark for first time; increase of 7.5% from 2019-20 and 21% from 2014-15

Female enrollment reaches 2 crore mark, increase of 13 Lakh from 2019-20

Significant increase of 28% in enrolment of SC students and 38% in enrolment of Female SC Students in 2020-21, compared to 2014-15.

Substantial increase of 47% in enrolment of ST students and 63.4% increase in the enrolment of Female ST Students in 2020-21, compared to 2014-15.

Significant increase of 32% in OBC Student enrolment and 39% in Female OBC Students, since 2014-15.

Notable increase of 29% in Student Enrolment and 34% in Female Student Enrolment in the North Eastern Region in 2020-21 since 2014-15.

Gross Enrolment Ratio (GER) has improved from previous year for all social groups

Enrollment in Distance Education has increased by 7% in 2020-21 from 2019-20

Number of Universities has increased by 70, number of Colleges has increased by 1,453, in 2020-21 over 2019-20

Gender Parity Index (GPI) has increased from 1 in 2017-18 to 1.05 in 2020-21

Total number of faculty/teachers increases by 47,914 from 2019-20

 

[jai jaganath]

Lmao, enrollment is different than graduates

37 million is not enrollment ig I read it as total no of graduates in in India
Anyway statista had given given the data so
No issues

 

[srevster]

37 million is not enrollment ig I read it as total no of graduates in in India
Anyway statista had given given the data so
No issues

source: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIfra...l enrollment in higher,in the enrolment (21%).

Enrollment in higher education increases to 4.14 crore, crossing the 4 crore mark for first time; increase of 7.5% from 2019-20 and 21% from 2014-15

4.14 crore is 41 million

 

[srevster]

India has 1.5 million teachers. I guess we have 4 students for every 1 teacher if our enrollment is only 6 million, lol

41 million students / 1.5 million faculty = 27.6 students per faculty

• The total number of faculty/teachers are 15,51,070 of which about 57.1% are male and 42.9% are female.
• The female per 100 male faculty has improved to 75 in 2020-21 from 74 in 2019-20 and 63 in 2014-15.

 

[ym888]

India has 1.5 million teachers. I guess we have 4 students for every 1 teacher if our enrollment is only 6 million, lol

41 million students / 1.5 million faculty = 27.6 students per faculty

• The total number of faculty/teachers are 15,51,070 of which about 57.1% are male and 42.9% are female.
• The female per 100 male faculty has improved to 75 in 2020-21 from 74 in 2019-20 and 63 in 2014-15.

Guangdong University of Foreign Studies and Social Sciences Academic Press jointly released the Blue Book of Higher Education: Report on the Development of China's Higher Education (2020-2021) (hereinafter referred to as the Report) on June 6. According to the report, the number of full-time teachers in China's universities has increased year by year.



According to the report, in recent years, the number of full-time teachers in China's colleges and universities has been increasing year by year. By the end of 2019, there were 2,566,700 staff and staff in colleges and universities across the country, an increase of 79,200 over the previous year, an increase of 3.18 percent, of which 1,740,100 were full-time teachers, an increase of 4.02 percent.

 

[srevster]

Guangdong University of Foreign Studies and Social Sciences Academic Press jointly released the Blue Book of Higher Education: Report on the Development of China's Higher Education (2020-2021) (hereinafter referred to as the Report) on June 6. According to the report, the number of full-time teachers in China's universities has increased year by year.



According to the report, in recent years, the number of full-time teachers in China's colleges and universities has been increasing year by year. By the end of 2019, there were 2,566,700 staff and staff in colleges and universities across the country, an increase of 79,200 over the previous year, an increase of 3.18 percent, of which 1,740,100 were full-time teachers, an increase of 4.02 percent.

Great all those teachers will be jobless when kids stop enrolling in colleges because of population collapse. China is on the tail end of its demographic dividend and India is starting its demographic dividend.

regardless the original sermonization came from the Chinese members on this forum and looking at these stats, it really doesn’t seem like China is some shining beacon and that India is unable to catch up.

it seems like India has already caught up and is about to exceed the Chinese capacity in higher education. While Chinese will struggle to sustain because of their one child policy.