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...Asian elephants usually live in tropical regions and China doesn't have many tropical regions, only a small tract of land bordering Myamar is good tropical habitat for Asian elephants.
This is incorrect... Asian elephants don't live strictly in tropical forests, nor plainland. They were once found all over central China, right up to the Chinese northern plains. Today there are only found in a small pocket around north of the Myamar-Laos border in Yunan.
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The proper Chinese elephant is effectively extinct, these elephants are Indo-Chinese ones.
 
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In 2019 India has 3000 wild Bengal tigers and China has 7.
Actually China has about 50 tigers, all in wild Manchuria & came in from Russia. They are doing fairly well, not many poached.
South China tigers are extinct in the wild, with no sighting nor evidence of presence in last 20 years. There is a severely inbred captive population about hundred though.

And India has almost 3000 adult & subadult tigers above 20 months age, there's atleast 1500 cubs as well that don't get included in official tiger census.
 

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IF that is the case then what about the Wild Tigers?

In 2019 India has 3000 wild Bengal tigers and China has 7.

Tigers can live in hot Southern India to Cold North Siberia then why they are missing in China??

We all know the answer-Stupid Chinese medicines.
China doesn't have many tigers but this number is not right, China now knows the mistakes we made, that's why we try to breed them in breeding centers, China now has the biggest tiger breeding tiger population in the world, I agree Chinese medicine are mostly BS, after the old generation die out, situation can be much better, now China has harsh laws against animal poaching, poaching a class A endangered species like tigner can be punishable by death, tiger populations are coming back fast now.
 

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Over 1000 Siberian tigers are receiving wild survival training here and China wants to bring them back to the wild one day.



World's largest breeding center for Siberian tigers welcomes over 80 new-born cubs in H1
 

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Most of the photos resemble Lao culture which OP mentioned in intro post. Lanchang or lanxang means land of million elephants which was name of Lao kingdom in past.

Architecture wise too it resembles more to Lao than Thai leave alone china. People throwing water in bucket on each other is new year festival called pimai in Lao or songkran in Thai.

Because it's border region hence resembles more to Lao. Also it was disputed that some territory belongs to Laos in past.
 

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China also have 30-50 Bengal tigers in southern Tibet.

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201908/08/WS5d4b646ea310cf3e355647c2.html

One tiger was killed in Xishuangbanna several years ago , that was an Indochinese tiger, hopefully they can also come back, maybe from neighoring countries.
Those are not exactly in China, but Arunachal Pradesh in India that China claims as a disputed territory of South Tibet (or something like that, I don't exactly know the Chinese name for it).
But recent study in China has found evidence of tiger presence in Medog county of Tibet. But their numbers & distribution are completely unknown... Could be 10, could be 100.
Over 1000 Siberian tigers are receiving wild survival training here and China wants to bring them back to the wild one day.



World's largest breeding center for Siberian tigers welcomes over 80 new-born cubs in H1
Breeding centres are irrelevant most of them are tiger farms, but if even if few hundred of those Siberian tigers can make it to the wild someday that'll be a big achievement. (Although chances of it actually happening is quite low.)

However training tigers to survive in the wild is half of the problem. Equally big an issue is to develop inviolate habitat for them, protected it properly to maintain enough prey for them.
 
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Most of the photos resemble Lao culture which OP mentioned in intro post. Lanchang or lanxang means land of million elephants which was name of Lao kingdom in past.

Architecture wise too it resembles more to Lao than Thai leave alone china. People throwing water in bucket on each other is new year festival called pimai in Lao or songkran in Thai.

Because it's border region hence resembles more to Lao. Also it was disputed that some territory belongs to Laos in past.
Xishuangbanna is a Thai autonomous region, they are ethnic Thai people speaking Thai language, The native Thai name Sípsɔ́ng literally means "twelve" and Pǎnnǎ literally means "thousand rice fields".
 

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But recent study in China has found evidence of tiger presence in Medog county of Tibet. But their numbers are completely unknown... Could be 10,could be 100.
Chinese source put the number 30-50, it's a vast primal forest region,hard to do the survey.
 

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Chinese source put the number 30-50, it's a vast primal forest region,hard to do the survey.
Exactly! It's a complete guess.. No proper census or counting was done. That's a vast, wild area the size of Scotland.
The totoal tiger number there can be anything.
 

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Xishuangbanna is a Thai autonomous region, they are ethnic Thai people speaking Thai language, The native Thai name Sípsɔ́ng literally means "twelve" and Pǎnnǎ literally means "thousand rice fields".
What if I tell you it means same in Lao too. In past mighty Mekong use to flow inside Laos but today it is border between Thai and Laos in most part. In long term it was propagated they are Thai but actually they are not. This type of architect and culture you will not find in Central and southern part of Thai.

Also could you please enlighten me how is it a Thai autonomous region when there is no Thai border with this region.
 

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Also could you please enlighten me how is it a Thai autonomous region when there is no Thai border with this region.
We have Tartars, uzbegs..in China while we don't share borders with those countries, but geographically we are still pretty close, it was said the Thai ancestors moved to today Thailand from south China.
 

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Also what you refer here is Tai autonomous region not Thai autonomous. They are distributed in Thai upto Chiang Mai. They made their capital luang prabhang in Laos too which was last capital of kingdom ruler in Laos and later shifted to present Vientiane.

This Xishuangbanna was also part of Lao kingdom. You don't call Mekong , lanchang in China for no reason. It literally translate to land of million elephants in Laos but no such thing in Thai or china. Lanchang was also mighty kingdom in Laos.
 

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We have Tartars, uzbegs..in China while we don't share borders with those countries, but geographically we are still pretty close, it was said the Thai ancestors moved to today Thailand from south China.
What you imply maybe true, but don't take it into this perspective that today's south china was china at that time.
 

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What you imply maybe true, but don't take it into this perspective that today's south china was china at that time.
True, actually today's Vietnam was a Chinese province for a thousand years.
 

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