China deleting videos of C919 crash?

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Least I care it being C919 or else. But unless Y-8(AN-12) features a variable geometry wing, mid flight re-shaping fuselage and a camouflage tech to hide engine cowlings plus propellers then the aircraft in the concerned video can't be it.

If someone wants to make others believe the otherwise then he needs to seek some psyco corrective help...........
 
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Chinese are trying to be a arms market to poor countries like Pakistan , south sudan , Zambia etc if they ever hope to sell their flop show jets in competition to the west they can't allow public display of aviation shame of this scale
 

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the fake title of this thread speaks volume for the credibility of this forum, no serious sources stated that it was a C919.
Nothing fake about the title... I clearly left a question mark. The only thing faked is your accusation of it being fake.

And PLAAF released information about the crash right after it happened, though giving no further details. apparently it was a military plane, those who attempted to prove that it was a C919 are simply jealous of Chinese accomplishment in civilian aviation.
PLAAF and the entire government is on an information blackout.

Some Internet users uploaded a video of the crash to Weibo. The Internet police said that "the information sent involved military actions or military secrets," and requested that "immediate deletion" be made. That night, the Command Center of Public Security Bureau of Suiyang County of Guizhou Province issued a notice to its subordinates stating that "the whole country is in an emergency standby immediately. All departments and police stations are forbidden to forward the incident related to the crashes of the Zhengyuan Qingyuan Village on the Internet."

"We do not know specifically if it is a military aircraft... they block the news, no one knows."

https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/yataibaodao/junshiwaijiao/ql1-01302018102222.html

How are we supposed to trust what you say when your government has no transparency or accountability? They went so far as to bury the HSR full of bodies in an attempt to hide from the world their trains were unsafe.



I do not revel in the loss of life. The Chinese people are innocent victims to the poor safety standards accepted by your government. Your country has a culture of 沒辦法 and it is the one thing that will keep you from achieving greatness.
 

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No more OT.
Reported OT posts have been deleted. .
 

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Spectators take photos as they watch the Comac C919, China's first large passenger jet, coming in for a landing on its maiden flight at Shanghai's Pudong airport on May 5

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Least I care it being C919 or else. But unless Y-8(AN-12) features a variable geometry wing, mid flight re-shaping fuselage and a camouflage tech to hide engine cowlings plus propellers then the aircraft in the concerned video can't be it.

If someone wants to make others believe the otherwise then he needs to seek some psyco corrective help...........
Apparently video is spliced together. First part is normal 737 approach.

This was a Y8 crash according to Chinese.
Every twin engine, mid-weight airliner would have that exact profile with its landing lights on.. There are thousands of B737's and Airbus A320's in China and only 2 C919 prototypes.

As @abingdonboy pointed out earlier, the first part of that video is blurred footage of a 737 on a landing run spliced onto video of the crash site. Every source so far reporting on that crash consistently points to a Y8 series crash. Absolutely 0 sources point to a C919 prototype crash. Which is why @Armand2REP repeatedly dodges requests to provide source material to his claim that a C919 has crashed.

Another thing which disproves your dream "C919 crash", is basic geography. Initial C919 test flight paths where always along the coast north of Shanghai.



The only flight thus far to deviate from this was the first long haul test flight in which the first C919 prototype, B-001A flew from Shanghai Pudong International Airport to the flight test center in Yanliang Xian, in Shaanxi province.

http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=7732



Guizhou, where the military plane crashed is roughly 1 000km's south of Xian where prototype B-001A is and roughly 1 600km's south-east of where prototype B-001C is. And mind you the 2nd prototype has only ever flown once, and is unlikely to have flown 1 600km's to Guizhou on an unannounced, mystery long-haul test flight.

https://www.google.co.bw/maps/dir/S...afcc72d13362!2m2!1d109.226101!2d34.662234!3e0

+ There are no "secret test flights". Hundreds of pre-orders depend on transparency in any airliners test flight programme. Airspace is always cleared ahead of time before any test flight, thus all test flights are public knowledge before they take place. Flight tracking services like flightradar24 have detailed flight maps of each flight as is demonstrated above.

But regardless of the basic facts, many here, including our favorite fake Frenchman will continue with this irrational, geography bending logic to fulfill their long held hopes of the C919 programmes failure.

Have at it gents. I'm done wasting my time with this nonsense thread. Time will prove you all wrong better than I can.
 
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please post record of B-001C

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this one



B-001C

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Every twin engine, mid-weight airliner would have that exact profile with its landing lights on.. There are thousands of B737's and Airbus A320's in China and only 2 C919 prototypes.

As @abingdonboy pointed out earlier, the first part of that video is blurred footage of a 737 on a landing run spliced onto video of the crash site. Every source so far reporting on that crash consistently points to a Y8 series crash. Absolutely 0 sources point to a C919 prototype crash. Which is why @Armand2REP repeatedly dodges requests to provide source material to his claim that a C919 has crashed.

Another thing which disproves your dream "C919 crash", is basic geography. Initial C919 test flight paths where always along the coast north of Shanghai.



The only flight thus far to deviate from this was the first long haul test flight in which the first C919 prototype, B-001A flew from Shanghai Pudong International Airport to the flight test center in Yanliang Xia, in Shaanxi province.

http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=7732



Guizhou, where the military plane crashed is roughly 1 000km's south of Xian where prototype B-001A is and roughly 1 600km's south-east of where prototype B-001C is. And mind you the 2nd prototype has only ever flown once, and is unlikely to have flown 1 600km's to Guizhou on an unannounced, mystery long-haul test flight.

https://www.google.co.bw/maps/dir/S...afcc72d13362!2m2!1d109.226101!2d34.662234!3e0

+ There are no "secret test flights". Hundreds of pre-orders depend on transparency in any airliners test flight programme. Airspace is always cleared ahead of time before any test flight, thus all test flights are public knowledge before they take place. Flight tracking services like flightradar24 have detailed flight maps of each flight as is demonstrated above.

But regardless of the basic facts, many here, including our favorite fake Frenchman will continue with this irrational, geography bending logic to fulfill their long held hopes of the C919 programmes failure.

Have at it gents. I'm done wasting my time with this nonsense thread. Time will prove you all wrong better than I can.
Armand did not realize that China is as large as Europe.he was not taught Geography well, obviously.

and he might think that Guizhou to Shanghai is as close as Toulouse to Paris.( In fact , it is as far as Toulouse to Jerusalem
 

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Well in Communist China its all about cover up ,from the migrant workers forced out from Beijing ,to a pedophile sexual abuse in kindergarten schools ,the communist party wants is a cover up ,Chinese are kind of used to it ,The C919 is more a reputation of chinese people because one can make air frames but jet engines are still of russian origin in most chinese air force ,so if the prototype goes down ,it a dent
 

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please post record of B-001C

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this one



B-001C

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Flight data had not been updated at the time of the first and only flight of B-001C on December 17th 2017, but they promised to do so on twitter.

I personally have not paid for a flightradar24 silver or gold account. But if you want to see the flight history of B-001C, follow the link and subscribe.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-001c

I can however with certainty confirm that prototype B-001C has only ever flown once in the vicinity of Shanghai(no where near Guizhou) and landed safely with all 5 personnel on board alive and well on the 17th of December 2017.

http://www.eastpendulum.com/le-2e-prototype-c919-reussit-son-vol-inaugural-a-shanghai

2nd C919 prototype successfully completes Shanghai inaugural flight

This time at least, the Chinese aircraft manufacturer Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) kept its promise and this morning sent to Shanghai the second prototype of its medium-haul C919 program in the air.

The young Chinese aerospace manufacturer founded in May 2008 announced on the Twitter account of its North American subsidiary that the aircraft, registered 10102 or B-001C, should make its first flight before the end of 2017, ie seven months after his eldest .

According to the COMAC website , the second C919 took off from Shanghai Pudong International Airport at approximately 10:34 am local time under the command of test pilot WU Xin (吴 鑫), who was himself assisted by the XU co-driver Yuan Zheng (徐 远征), observer Zou Li Xue (邹 礼 学) and two test engineers, DAI Wei (戴维) and LIU Li Zu (刘立 苏).

During the two hours of flight tests, the crew was able to check 29 control points, relating to the proper functioning of various aircraft on-board systems and the performance of flaps, landing gear and navigation systems. and communication, as well as engines in acceleration and deceleration.

The main COMAC officials and the certifying officers of the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) have all come to witness the flight from the ground control room in Shanghai.










The C919 program plans to build a total of six prototypes for flight tests and two more for ground tests, such as static and fatigue tests. COMAC will join in the coming years with the Chinese giant in aeronautics, the AVIC group, to obtain different certifications in China and elsewhere, essential for the sale and commercial operation of the aircraft.

In addition to the Yanliang Airfield, which is home to China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE), Dongying Shengli Airport (东营 胜利 机场, IATA code: DOY) in Shandong Province has also begun and will be served as the second main base for C919 test flights.

After the abandonment of the first Y-10 civil airliner program in 1983, the standard-equipped 168-seat C919, launched in September 2008, once again brings the Chinese aeronautics dream to life. a major industrial project, which aims to raise the technological level of all the national actors participating in the program, but also one of the flagship symbols of the country's politico-economic model, after the gigantic program of trains high speed which has made China the country with the largest TGV rail network in the world in less than 20 years, and also a country exporting technologies now associated.

Supported financially by public funds in part and strategically by advantageous policies, the C919 program quickly generated a fairly comfortable launch order book with a total of 785 aircraft from 27 mainly Chinese-Chinese customers. It is the Chinese airline China Eastern Airlines which should, hopefully, receive the first C919 by 2021.

Since May 5, 2017 when the first C919 made its maiden flight, the aircraft 10101 has totaled "only" 16 test flights, including 9 in November. The program is still only at its beginning and will have a long way to go before it can start a real commercial career ...


The number of flight tests of the C919 program by prototype (Image: East Pendulum)

Henri K.
 
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Henri K isn't prophetic like you chaps...

Still waiting on your source material for your C919 crash fantasy...
No one is asking your French source for all things Chinese to be prophetic. We are asking for evidence C919 has made January test flights considering it flies almost two times a week as of last year.
 

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the fake title of this thread speaks volume for the credibility of this forum, no serious sources stated that it was a C919.

And PLAAF released information about the crash right after it happened, though giving no further details. apparently it was a military plane, those who attempted to prove that it was a C919 are simply jealous of Chinese accomplishment in civilian aviation.
Yea...only credible forum is run by Porkistanis where coward Chinese abuse and troll anything that is related to India.

DFI at least allow you to debate and put forth your point without banning you.
 

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No one is asking your French source for all things Chinese to be prophetic. We are asking for evidence C919 has made January test flights considering it flies almost two times a week as of last year.
There have been 0 test flights in 2018 for B-001A which is in Xian, or B-001C, which has only ever flown once and is in Shanghai at Pudong Airport. Flightradar24 has no records of either B-001A or B-001C flying in the last 7 days, yet somehow one of them crashed 1000+ km away in Guizhou. Please explain how that is possible? Where they shipped by train to Guizhou? Where is the flight tracking data for your "doomed" flight?

Please answer these simple questions. Please provide a source detailing the crash of a C919 prototype.

You're consistently ignoring or dodging requests to provide a source for your claim that a C919 prototype has crashed. You can't even respond to the arguments in my posts above...
 

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hi,my fellow chinese,why be so eager to.persuade guys like armand ?

it is unnecessory to do so,because chinese achievements stand there ,either with or without their bless.

MR Armand is my old friend and i knew him 10 years ago.

since i knew him, china has never received any bless from him.

but even without his bless. chinese economy has still been growing and chinese new weapons like j20 still have rolled out.

so many changes have taken place in the past 10 years(10 years ago,french GDP was in the league of china's . now,french GDP is just in the same league of the one of some chinese province say Guangdong.),but armand seems not to have changed his attitude to china.




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There have been 0 test flights in 2018 for B-001A which is in Xian, or B-001C, which has only ever flown once and is in Shanghai at Pudong Airport. Flightradar24 has no records of either B-001A or B-001C flying in the last 7 days, yet somehow one of them crashed 1000+ km away in Guizhou. Please explain how that is possible? Where they shipped by train to Guizhou? Where is the flight tracking data for your "doomed" flight?

Please answer these simple questions. Please provide a source detailing the crash of a C919 prototype.

You're consistently ignoring or dodging requests to provide a source for your claim that a C919 prototype has crashed. You can't even respond to the arguments in my posts above...
That is really strange that there have been zero test flights for two aircraft, when in November one aircraft averaged two per week. Please explain how that is possible?

As for your flight records none of them were published until after they happened. The same as your space programme scripts your spacewalks and was mistakenly published before they launched.
 

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That is really strange that there have been zero test flights for two aircraft, when in November one aircraft averaged two per week. Please explain how that is possible?

As for your flight records none of them were published until after they happened. The same as your space programme scripts your spacewalks and was mistakenly published before they launched.
BS. Commercial flight tracking services like flightradar24 track and update flight data AS THEY HAPPEN. And the last time I checked, such services had nothing at all to do with COMAC or the Chinese government.

B-001A first flew in May 2017, with its second flight occurring 4 months later in September 2017. Its been roughly a month since B-001C had its maiden flight, there's nothing strange about that. Flight tests are conducted according to a test plan for data gathering, there is no set frequency.

Either way, you're grasping at straws mate, there have been no test flights in the C919 programme this month, how exactly did one crash 1000 km's away from either test site?

FOR THE 6TH TIME, PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE FOR YOUR CLAIM THAT A C919 CRASHED ON MONDAY. No that I'm holding my breath.
 

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