China Blocks YouTube

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China Blocks YouTube

China has blocked the video-sharing network YouTube after Beijing denounced footage appearing to show security forces beating Tibetans in Lhasa last year as "a lie".

The authorities have blocked the service on previous occasions and, more frequently, have prevented access to specific videos.

Google, which owns YouTube, confirmed that Beijing halted access to the site this week but said it did not know why.

"We are looking into it and working to ensure that the service is restored as soon as possible," spokesman Scott Rubin said in an email to the Associated Press.

It is not clear why China has blocked it now. But the state news agency, Xinhua, yesterday condemned a video released by the Tibetan government-in-exile, which was posted on YouTube recently .

The government-in-exile said the video showed the brutal beating of Tibetan protesters and the wounds of a young man called Tendar. It allegeed he was detained for attempting to stop police beating a monk, and later died of his injuries.

But Xinhua, citing an unidentified official with China's Tibetan regional government, said that the video was a lie.

"Technology experts found that video and audio was edited to piece together different places, times and people," said the official.

He said that an officer had "defeated" a man named Tendar, but acted in self-defence after the man slashed him with a knife and ignored several warnings to stop. He added that Tendar "died from a disease at home awaiting court trial"; that the person shown in the video was not Tendar; and that the wounds shown were in any case fake.

"The Dalai Lama group is used to fabricating lies to deceive the international community and the aim of this video is to hide the truth of the March 14th riot," he said.

Tibet is a particularly sensitive issue at the moment because this month marks one year since fatal riots in Lhasa sparked wider unrest across Tibetan areas, and 50 years since a failed uprising against Chinese rule. Large parts of western China are still under heavy security.

A foreign ministry spokesman, Qin Gang, told reporters yesterday that he did not know about the block, adding: "Many people have a false impression that the Chinese government fears the internet. In fact, it is just the opposite."

Citing the country's 300 million internet users - the world's largest online population - and 100m blogs, he added: "China's internet is open enough, but also needs to be regulated by law in order to prevent the spread of harmful information and for national security."

One blogger commented wryly that Qin had spoken accurately, because "it has always been that the internet fears the Chinese government".

In January, the authorities launched a crackdown on "vulgar" content which led to the closure of hundreds of sites, including a popular blog hosting site. Critics argue that the campaign is designed to intimidate bloggers and discourage dissent. Several other countries have blocked YouTube in the past.
China blocks YouTube | World news | guardian.co.uk
 

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Blocking youtube is nothing when it comes to CCP and their government.
They do more nasty things then this which haven't been exposed to outside world yet.
I will have to put up the pix of chinese police cutting off the head of innocent tibetan girls.
I almost knock myself off when first time I saw that. It was horrible!
 

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Sorry,I can’t see the video now,the net in our dormitory is cut down,but I have seen your post.I won’t comment on the reality of the video,but I want to show my perception .
Few people in other country know that seven hundred years ago,Tebit is a part of China,and today the leaders in China treat them so well.I take myself as an instance:You can’t imagine the pressure I bear when I was in senior middle school,I seldom went to bed before 12 o’clock,and the path I went through my senior middle school was spotted by my perspiration and tears,how do I felt when my mother told me that her colleague’s son has got a top score in the examination,how do I felt when I know that my former classmates had got an access to the Olympic competition,how do I felt when I was walking in the prosperous streets after taking out of school lessons….I worked hard in my junior high school,and I have an access to one of the best senior middle schools in our city,if I can’t get a high score in the enterance examination,all my efforts will worth nothing.And my father had given me a lot,he thought my home was so far from the school,so he rented a house just beside the school for me to live,and my mother even give up her work so that she can take good care of me.The bitterness I don’t want to say again,in my heart,the minority youngster are more lucky than our Han youngster,they have a lower entrance score,and they can add 20 point in the total score,but to our han,if we want to gain the extra 20 we have to get a medal in the Olympic competition in China,It’s impossible for most of us ,and the students who can reach that glory can select any college in China,they even don’t have to take the entrance examination.
Then,I will tell you that the leaders in China know more about what peace and stability means to the whole country than any other leaders in the world.What the socialism means, it respresents equal and prosperous,but why we can’t do it? As our politics book says the basic nation condition in China is “China is in the junior period of socialism and will be in junior period for a long time”.I do know the troubles in China,but we can’t change them overnight.
Then,I’ll tell you why we support the communists.And today we still say that no Communist Party,no new Chinese.In the old days ,be a communist means be ready to sacrifice for the people at any time,they change their blood and flesh for the expectation of our whole people…….The communists give the lands to the poor,and let the Chinese can walk with their back straight.Do you know that in old days what were wrote on the gate of the park in shanghai---------Chinese and dogs can’t enter,how do we feel,but now we are the true hosts of the country.
Maybe, as a foreigner,you can’t imagine yet.So I take another example ,the war between American (in fact is the UN) and China in North Korea.We lost 500,000 lives in the war,the Chinese soldiers suffered the cold and hunger,we call them “the most lovely people in the world. “A journalist had wrote an article about them, in the article I clearly remembered that “a soldier said that we now can’t sleep well and eat the snow so that the people in our home country can enjoy the sunshine while they are having a walk in the broad road,and children can sit in lightening classrooms listening to the teachers”And how we fight against the American soldiers,our sodiers use their body to build a bridge in the fire, to let the soldiers behind them went to kill the enemy,and many times they were frozen but keep a posture of going forward,the sodiers ahead were killed but the sodiers behind also went ahead as they were robots without afraid…….
Oh,it’s too late,I’ll go to bed,tomorrow,I will post this on the forum.

Goodbye.
 

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Nice to see your unabashed opinion Yang...

We would also like to see some of the news reports carried about India by the local press... you can post them on the forum so that we can see how your gauge us as neighbours...

And, such interactions while limited within the levels of decency can go a long way in allaying rumours and unwarranted fears that we have about each other...
 

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Your people suffered all because your leader Mao. If he would had never thought that religion is poison and war is the key to success then none of your people would had ever gone threw what they had to.At the end of the day communism will not work out so wake up buddy! Some time it has to dissolve; its just the matter of time! And about "dogs and chinese can't park or enter here" is because of due to the evil and nasty manner, character, and personality of chinese people from western impression. When 1st time they encountered chinese they found them pretty trashy with no manner/class. You said that quote was written in China but you are wrong that quote was written everywhere in western nation. So I think you are just another puppet of CCP so get a life dude!
You need:helpsmilie: big time! Sorry about what you and your mother had to go threw. It's pretty sad but that's not going to make up for CCP being an angel!
 

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Your people suffered all because your leader Mao. If he would had never thought that religion is poison and war is the key to success then none of your people would had ever gone threw what they had to.At the end of the day communism will not work out so wake up buddy! Some time it has to dissolve; its just the matter of time! And about "dogs and chinese can't park or enter here" is because of due to the evil and nasty manner, character, and personality of chinese people from western impression. When 1st time they encountered chinese they found them pretty trashy with no manner/class. You said that quote was written in China but you are wrong that quote was written everywhere in western nation. So I think you are just another puppet of CCP so get a life dude!
You need:helpsmilie: big time! Sorry about what you and your mother had to go threw. It's pretty sad but that's not going to make up for CCP being an angel!
To say the truth,I respect Mao a lot ,only in that period,the major countries in the world don't underestimate us.If you see the history book you'll know that why we have the 1962 war,India went across McMahon Line 30 miles,we can't stand any more.And every war with the foreigh countris we are not willing.We are so poor that time ,and have no spirit to have wars.But they force us to do so.
The other I won't say.
And Mao never saw regilous is poison,but if it harm the society,then not the government,everybody will see it as poison.The schemes made some countries ,here ,I have no need to point out,everybody know,then,let us pretend innocent.
I am satisfied with the government to a large extent,we are not tricked by the western in policy,and we have done not bad on economy.
 

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To say the truth,I respect Mao a lot ,only in that period,the major countries in the world don't underestimate us.If you see the history book you'll know that why we have the 1962 war,India went across McMahon Line 30 miles,we can't stand any more.And every war with the foreigh countris we are not willing.We are so poor that time ,and have no spirit to have wars.But they force us to do so.
The other I won't say.
What history books are you talking about ??? Your Mao printed history books ??? Look at any neutral source and you'll know that it was China which came into Indian territory... We did not breach the Line.. YOU DID !!!
 

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What history books are you talking about ??? Your Mao printed history books ??? Look at any neutral source and you'll know that it was China which came into Indian territory... We did not breach the Line.. YOU DID !!!
you don't have to check any history book,the border line is the evidence.

And on 25,BBC has reported that after checting the video uploaded by people on Youtube,they found the video mixed new and old,and they can't comfirm when it occured.BBC Chinese department also said that "May be the Dalai clique learn some skills in editing screen from the Western media "
And YouTube was forbidden by some government are not unusual ,if the information do harm to the country,then the gov has the right to forbiden it.I can't remember the names of the countries which do the same as China
 

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you don't have to check any history book,the border line is the evidence.

And on 25,BBC has reported that after checting the video uploaded by people on Youtube,they found the video mixed new and old,and they can't comfirm when it occured.BBC Chinese department also said that "May be the Dalai clique learn some skills in editing screen from the Western media "
And YouTube was forbidden by some government are not unusual ,if the information do harm to the country,then the gov has the right to forbiden it.I can't remember the names of the countries which do the same as China
Link please ???

And, how, I beg, is the border line the evidence ??? YOU BREACHED many lines and got into Tibet (which wasnt yours at all)... isnt that aggression ???
 

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You need:helpsmilie: big time! Sorry about what you and your mother had to go threw. It's pretty sad but that's not going to make up for CCP being an angel!
Not make up ,they are angels compared with Dalai Lamma .And the communists are not as horrible as your mother told you,you should see thing on your own,and then give a objective judgement on it.Maybe you can go to Tibet for a look,to see the innocent people there,the beautiful scenery,the culture and the museum (record the black days of most people there,and how they support the government)there.
So I think you are just another puppet of CCP so get a life dude!
Could you please not call me dude any more?A girl should be polite.And I am not a puppet,I am concious,I have my owe spirit.
 

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Few people in other country know that seven hundred years ago,Tebit is a part of China,...
How many years did you say? Pal, look at the world map, you will see for yourself the whole lot of borders has changed in 700 years! The land of America, Australia, New Zealand etc. etc. should be given back to their rightful owners then?! Heck how about India, it should be split up in hundreds of pieces if we follow your logic!!! Or see back about 1000 years then, when there was a Tibetan Empire existed between China and India. Or is it because you have the muscle so you can do anything? Man, I always found the 'people's' party stunt about flaunting history always in their favor. Honestly it is fun, only because it's not my neck, my country or my nationality is at stake. I don't understand you (Chinese) people are quite educated and have a strong culture; still you follow these Party blindly?!!!!


and today the leaders in China treat them so well.
You make it sound as if you are talking about a herd of animals at your 'leader's' mercy! They are in THEIR HOMELAND! You speak about how badly you were treated by westerners, and how about Tibetans then? From same POV you should have let them have their freedom, and pulled out of their land. They DID NOT ask for People's Party to better their life and they protested and protested, fought and still fighting - is this what communism offers - my way or highway? I'm glad I live in a democratic country then. At least here I face a minimum level of communist bullies and morons.

Then,I will tell you that the leaders in China know more about what peace and stability means to the whole country than any other leaders in the world.What the socialism means, it respresents equal and prosperous,but why we can’t do it? As our politics book says the basic nation condition in China is “China is in the junior period of socialism and will be in junior period for a long time”.I do know the troubles in China,but we can’t change them overnight.
Lets see - communism came in Russia with blood bath and it was the home of KGB - it occupied Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia (only naming them as they were part of original USSR). Communism ruled in East Germany - home of Stasi, - there goes civilian rights. Communism in South Vietnam, North Korea - bloodbath. Afghanistan - civil war. Why do you communists always try to spread peaceful message of socialist ideology with guns and bombs? And to them who are already happy in non-communistic state?

If you are all equal, why should there be a need of Mr. Chairman? Why does he get to decide anything at all without everytime getting a consent? Well, it is preposterous. Well, in deed. There had always been rank structure, and there would always be - in form of PMs, King/Queens or Chairmen. So in effect communism is utopian, isn't it?!!! Or why else there's always strict laws in those countries prohibiting leaving - like Russia, NK etc.? Why if everyone is treated good there woouldn't be any desire of people deserting?!

Then,I’ll tell you why we support the communists.And today we still say that no Communist Party,no new Chinese.In the old days ,be a communist means be ready to sacrifice for the people at any time,they change their blood and flesh for the expectation of our whole people…….The communists give the lands to the poor,and let the Chinese can walk with their back straight.Do you know that in old days what were wrote on the gate of the park in shanghai---------Chinese and dogs can’t enter,how do we feel,but now we are the true hosts of the country.

Maybe, as a foreigner,you can’t imagine yet.So I take another example ,the war between American (in fact is the UN) and China in North Korea.We lost 500,000 lives in the war,the Chinese soldiers suffered the cold and hunger,we call them “the most lovely people in the world. “A journalist had wrote an article about them, in the article I clearly remembered that “a soldier said that we now can’t sleep well and eat the snow so that the people in our home country can enjoy the sunshine while they are having a walk in the broad road,and children can sit in lightening classrooms listening to the teachers”And how we fight against the American soldiers,our sodiers use their body to build a bridge in the fire, to let the soldiers behind them went to kill the enemy,and many times they were frozen but keep a posture of going forward,the sodiers ahead were killed but the sodiers behind also went ahead as they were robots without afraid…….
We have been under occupation far longer than you people and we also faced the same struggle and humiliation. We overcame it, but not with a sense of vengeance, but with a grace and respect for ourselves. And we same as proud being Indians, as you probably are as Chinese! For getting there we didn't need to violate basic rights of men or didn't asked volunteers en masse to go in other country to stick bayonets or be stuck with one, in name of nation or idea.
 

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