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Capf should come under the command of Capf only.
Not under IPS.

Major Gaurav Arya has written a very beautiful article on this.
Whether Major Arya writes or not doesn't change the reality of things on ground that the Civil Service and IPS lobby will not let that happen. And they are influential with them in all key positions starting up from sub-collector, ASP in all the states and disctrict upto the secretary of PM . Randi drona on this forum doesn't make any difference. So let's not be a Reddit. Know the ground reality of things
 

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It's also worse now, IPS babus are deciding national security.
It's still दीपावली throughout the year.

Jat आंदोलन में भी army को आना पड़ा था
Where were your civil authorities, IPS babu (nowhere to be found)

Just see the deteriorating level of state police forces headed by IPS बाबु.
Highest corruption is there.
A ex IPS worte a very beautiful article on it
दाल में कुछ काला नहीं, पूरी दाल काली है.

And then some of these IPS para drop in CAPF
Eating all the resources internally.

A honest BSF AC was removed from his service just because he shot a smuggler......

Crpf still unable to handle naxal despite having very professional men. (क्योंकि IPS बाबु कमरे में बैठे बैठे सारी problem solve कर देते है).
NSG is what it is today under the same Poolice force. If it was under IA, then we could've seen commandos with black uniform, black headband, Tavor and AKs. Some here think that IA is some sooper efficient and forward thinking force
 

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NSG is what it is today under the same Poolice force. If it was under IA, then we could've seen commandos with black uniform, black headband, Tavor and AKs. Some here think that IA is some sooper efficient and forward thinking force
Agreed. But operational command of forces at the front needs to be unified. We are trying to have Theater Commands for a similar reason.
One crazy idea could be having an arrangement where Operational control of ITBP units deployed in sensitive areas is of the Army while Administrative control is of the IPS? Similar to how Infantry Regiments have administrative control but not operational control over the Infantry Battalions. Yes its a landmine that needs to be negotiated carefully, but if the delineation of powers and responsibilities is done carefully, it might end up working.

Sorry मित्र
Soon there will be only ITBP supremacy.
Army नीचे ITBP उपर.
Discussions are going on in full throttle.
Just wait and watch.
जल्दी हरी झंडी मिलने वाली है
IPS lobby + political lobby जिंदाबाद.

और वैसे भी मरेंगे तो ITBP के जवान मरेंगे.
Nobody gives a F to Assistant Commandant
तो जवान तो क्या ही चीज है.

जय Ajit Doval सहाब (Secret agent)
No need to go full metal panic. Do detail how Army is being "overridden" in matters pertaining to Army's operational deployment. Are you telling me IPS officers are being allowed to dictate Army's deployments or somehow Armed Forces ISR is not being allowed on the front? Give me details. Not rhetoric.

Wow भैया.
भैया please ऐसा चमत्कार State police पे भी कर दो ना......
Instead of ranting, kindly try and counter his point factually/logically. This IPS babu bad, Army good is not fooling anyone. Everyone has faults and turf wars to the detriment of national security is not something that don't happen in Armed Forces.
 

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NSG is what it is today under the same Poolice force. If it was under IA, then we could've seen commandos with black uniform, black headband, Tavor and AKs. Some here think that IA is some sooper efficient and forward thinking force
Yes u are right but what nsg is today is bcoz 26/11 earlier it was as badly equipped as armed forces sof
But even learning comes into the game I mean ips babuz atleast learnt from their past mistakes but military babuz won't learn even after repeating same mistakes for 100 times
 

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Yes u are right but what nsg is today is bcoz 26/11 earlier it was as badly equipped as armed forces sof
But even learning comes into the game I mean ips babuz atleast learnt from their past mistakes but military babuz won't learn even after repeating same mistakes for 100 times
One should also take into consideration that Home Ministry forces like NSG and CRPF VSG are now well equipped and well trained because their main agenda is to protect Netas and IPS Babus.

So "IPS babus learning from past mistakes" is a loose statement. Netas wants that's why it is like it is.
 
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In 1999 or in 2020,area under control of army is invaded....not under ITBP...
 

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