Catalan referendum: Catalonia has 'won right to statehood'

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Revival of ETA might be sooner after seeing the catalan referendum ..Looks like hard days for spain and european union ..Russia will get even stronger with every break up of the current EU..


I guess some people north of the Spanish borders speak catalan yeah. But it is all about maintaining a cultural heritage and they would never think about joining an independent Catalonia.

I guess that French gov is worried that Corsicans or even Basque speakers in France might follow the Catalonian way though. Corsica is a perfect candidate.
 

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Few million people with the same religion and the same culture and little bit different language cannot live together..

AND

Here in India we have billion plus people with so many languages and religions.

STILL ONE!!!
That's because India is not as diverse as advertised.people are crude if people look almost the same across India then we can be counted as homogenous.very small no of visible minorities do not matter.if you are not following the south north difference theory or bollywood outlook on India you will know that India looks more or less the same.as for religion we do have tension but we don't do much about it.
 

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Revival of ETA might be sooner after seeing the catalan referendum ..Looks like hard days for spain and european union ..Russia will get even stronger with every break up of the current EU..
This is good as ideologically EU is our enemy as it hates nationalism especially ethnic or racial nationalism.Let it burn and explode through economic crisis,terror attacks,etc.
 

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Only state worth staying is civilizational state. Multi civilization is market. Loyalty is most important factor. Unfortunately, Hindus didn't fight for a state while muslims did. Hence Hindus have no state. British cunningly gifted India when they saw Indian National Army revolt. But Jinnah was persistent with Pakistan demand. British could Not do anything. But they installed Nehru and a made up constitution in India.

India has no purpose or cause to exist. Either India must be made to conform to culture of people or destroyed. Market states deserve to be destroyed. People are not slaves of the state. State must be hoe people want them to be and not in any way some arbitrary people decide it to be.
 

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I guess some people north of the Spanish borders speak catalan yeah. But it is all about maintaining a cultural heritage and they would never think about joining an independent Catalonia.

I guess that French gov is worried that Corsicans or even Basque speakers in France might follow the Catalonian way though. Corsica is a perfect candidate.
another is belgium , isnt south of belgium , wallonia , either wants join with france or become an independent nation ,

and the other part , flanders , is also keen on becoming independent nation .
 
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@Rahul Prakash

diversity of india is not an " advertisment " as you said and the explanation you given for it , same thing could be said about europe ,

using your logic , europe is also culturally or ethnically or racially more or less looks the same if you neglect their languages or cultures ,

if you want to neglect diversity of india what actually you be end up doing is neglecting cultural of other people of india but of course not your own language or culture ,

and that be useful if you want to act like communist party of china who wiped out most of chinese languages and cultures .
 

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@Rahul Prakash

diversity of india is not an " advertisment " as you said and the explanation you given for it , same thing could be said about europe ,

using your logic , europe is also culturally or ethnically or racially more or less looks the same if you neglect their languages or cultures ,

if you want to neglect diversity of india what actually you be end up doing is neglecting cultural of other people of india but of course not your own language or culture ,

and that be useful if you want to act like communist party of china who wiped out most of chinese languages and cultures .
Cultural diversity is different from sub cultural diversity. Abrahamists are evil and that is cultural diversity. In fact, islam is outrightly antagonistic. Minor personal differences like languages make no difference, but worldview does. Man and woman have different culture but that is not a problem. Every 2 person is different. But, what matters is whether a culture is reaosnable or a retarded "revelation" based one.
 

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Cultural diversity is different from sub cultural diversity. Abrahamists are evil and that is cultural diversity. In fact, islam is outrightly antagonistic. Minor personal differences like languages make no difference, but worldview does. Man and woman have different culture but that is not a problem. Every 2 person is different. But, what matters is whether a culture is reaosnable or a retarded "revelation" based one.
abrahamists and islamist these are ideologies rather than culture but it could be said that one is a sub culture of other but it still makes world of difference between them ,
if you talk about islam they are also further divided by 2 biggest denominations sunni and shia those also could be called as sub cultures still makes world of difference between them because of difference at their ideologies ,

these are discussions where even the theologians got difference of opinions what more we could say about it ,

another things is that language is not all on its own but its a part of its respective culture and thats why its not a minor difference ,
and definitely is not personal difference like on individual level but its a cultural difference between two tribes or communities ,

and actually worldview is a personal difference as its based on personal experiences thats why every two persons are different but you know this is a philosophical topic but this isnt what me was trying to explain about diversity .
 

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Not a good sight looking at these pictures, but can't blame the Spanish government for clamping down on separatist tendencies. All of this started with the Kosovo nonsense, and even before that, the collapse of the USSR. The good news is, at least some part of Ukraine wants to go back to Russia.
 

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Spain should have done a better job assimilating its Catalans like France did, instead they gave them autonomy and let their dream of statehood ignite. If Spain is unable to stop their Catalans, we will have to do it for them.
Spain should have done a better job assimilating its Catalans like France did, instead they gave them autonomy and let their dream of statehood ignite. If Spain is unable to stop their Catalans, we will have to do it for them.
You are nut or you just pretending to be nut ? Franco’s days are over. Spain is not France, catalan and basques are well distinct entities like Quebec is within Canada.Though independence for Catalonia is not sound for them economically, it is up to Catalans to decide, not Madrid. And if France has a role to play in that, that is in stopping the crisis to escalate , not sending French forces helping the Spanish police. Over.
 

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Few million people with the same religion and the same culture and little bit different language cannot live together..

AND

Here in India we have billion plus people with so many languages and religions.

STILL ONE!!!
That is because there must be an unifying force much stronger than the centrifugal forces ! We don’t feel that force in Europe . In Spain ? Can’t speak for them.
 

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You are nut or you just pretending to be nut ? Franco’s days are over. Spain is not France, catalan and basques are well distinct entities like Quebec is within Canada.Though independence for Catalonia is not sound for them economically, it is up to Catalans to decide, not Madrid. And if France has a role to play in that, that is in stopping the crisis to escalate , not sending French forces helping the Spanish police. Over.
If Catalan independence fuels separatists within our borders and threatens our territorial sovereignty we will act. Catalonia is not Quebec or Scotland that has the right to secede under a national constitution. It is integral territory of nation states established 400 years ago, and for dynastic Spain much longer than that. They fought a civil war and French intervention crushed it, we will crush it again if they even think about raising arms against us.
 

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