Can't link India's case for NSG membership with that of Pakistan: Russia

[Rahul Prakash]

There can only be one top player . And it is not China; no matter what the world is doing nobody can match US military might; this will secure US position indefinetly. Military supremacy has always been a top priority for US and no country comes close to challenging this.

That supremacy will go naturally.

No country remains 1st without a stable indeginous pop base.

USA will become brown and black and with it will become a third world in mentality and everything else.only whites care about USA.rest will just collect EBT and won't contribute.

 

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[spikey360]

Why do we care about these cold war era structures?
We already have the money and the might to circumvent any nation in the world. What is the use of being a cry-baby about NSG and UNSC veto seat?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

What is the use of being a cry-baby about NSG and UNSC veto seat?

Licesne of circumvention otherwise face entire UN alone!

 

[spikey360]

Licesne of circumvention otherwise face entire UN alone!

UN has never served India any purpose, we might as well leave it.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

UN has never served India any purpose, we might as well leave it.

We will be screwed in that case, one can never be over 190 and I don't think India must be that stupid like Britain.

UN is a common platform for interacting with most countries today, other groups come later at higher level and whatever one can do is only possible being in UN.
Now, it's our destiny that's it's serving dictatorship of only five nations, irrespective of what they are doing, how they got entry or what they are now.

Still, whatever you can do is only till when you are it's member otherwise you're irrelevant for world. Keep trying to one of those 5 till end or leave UN and waste your country in a corner of world and rot it's economy & talent, your choice.

 

[Villager]

UN has never served India any purpose, we might as well leave it.

Or force reforms in its structure with help of friendly countries in P5 and other members who are already dissatisfied with monopoly of P5 in it.

UN was formed in 1945 when Britain was a colonial power, US with its questionable credential of democracy (racism in US from 17th century to 1970s), Soviet led by communist Stalin not to promote world peace but further their conflicting geopolitical ambitions while avoiding confrontation with each other. How do such nations form a peace keeping organisation and assign veto power to themselves.

It should be our top agenda to aggressively push for reforms and maybe, also get together with nations we have cordial ties with and form our own similar lines and objective as that of UN that we can continue to expand over time depending on how effectively we use to enhance cooperation between member nations.

 

[spikey360]

We will be screwed in that case, one can never be over 190 and I don't think India must be that stupid like Britain.

UN is a common platform for interacting with most countries today, other groups come later at higher level and whatever one can do is only possible being in UN.
Now, it's our destiny that's it's serving dictatorship of only five nations, irrespective of what they are doing, how they got entry or what they are now.

Still, whatever you can do is only till when you are it's member otherwise you're irrelevant for world. Keep trying to one of those 5 till end or leave UN and waste your country in a corner of world and rot it's economy & talent, your choice.

Or force reforms in its structure with help of friendly countries in P5 and other members who are already dissatisfied with monopoly of P5 in it.

UN was formed in 1945 when Britain was a colonial power, US with its questionable credential of democracy (racism in US from 17th century to 1970s), Soviet led by communist Stalin not to promote world peace but further their conflicting geopolitical ambitions while avoiding confrontation with each other. How do such nations form a peace keeping organisation and assign veto power to themselves.

It should be our top agenda to aggressively push for reforms and maybe, also get together with nations we have cordial ties with and form our own similar lines and objective as that of UN that we can continue to expand over time depending on how effectively we use to enhance cooperation between member nations.

I agree to what you both have pointed out, the UN being a dictatorship of five nations.
I also agree that there are a few things to be gained by being inside the circle of UN. No use being an isolationist now.
However, I cannot see why we cannot circumvent the UN even while being inside it and always keep complaining about things that WILL NOT BE GIVEN to us. Why can't we be the flag bearers of Exceptionalism like USA and Israel? Why do we always have to agree with everyone and keep everyone in the loop and wait forever, till the last man says 'Aye' to our needs and interests?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

However, I cannot see why we cannot circumvent the UN even while being inside it and always keep complaining about things that WILL NOT BE GIVEN to us.

We can but we'll again be imposed with sanctions and thrown in a corner of world where we may again face major obstructions what we faced in last century, not to mention.

Why can't we be the flag bearers of Exceptionalism like USA and Israel? Why do we always have to agree with everyone and keep everyone in the loop and wait forever, till the last man says 'Aye' to our needs and interests?

We need political power for that, we need those seats and till we get em, better let's keep mouths shut and go on.