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If this is what democrats leadership is saying, and propaganda arm of democrats CNN continues to behave antagonistic to India which is at frontline of Chinese warfare.

DFI needs to analyse this a bit more, what the heck does US wants.
either there is a disconnect within murican establishment or as per plan.
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'We cannot be dependent on the Chinese market. It’s not only bad for our economies, it’s bad for our geopolitical-strategic interest.'

'You will never compete and win against them, unless you take back the means of production.'

Think of It in this POV....Murica wants a renewed trade deal wid chinks cause all These years for every year Muricans were running trade deficit As big as 500 fuckin billion dollars (almost twice size of porki gdp)...So now they are using all pressure points to squeeze chinks into submission to have a trade deal where trade will be balanced from both sides or even surplus in murican balance sheet because post corona everyone desperately needs liquidity to revive economy And nobody can deny the Reality of 14 trillion Chinese economy... until chinks agree for balanced trade deal there will be propaganda from all sides imo...and if in future there is trade deal between us china We will know where d world is heading...At d end nothing is personal, nothing is ideological but everything is about money
 

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Think of It in this POV....Murica wants a renewed trade deal wid chinks cause all These years for every year Muricans were running trade deficit As big as 500 fuckin billion dollars (almost twice size of porki gdp)...So now they are using all pressure points to squeeze chinks into submission to have a trade deal where trade will be balanced from both sides because post corona everyone desperately needs liquidity to revive economy... until chinks agree for balanced trade deal there will be propaganda from all sides imo...and if in future there is trade deal between us china We will know where d world is heading...At d end nothing is personal, nothing is ideological but everything is about money
yup, agree. Let’s see what other ideas come out of this discussion.
 

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Think of It in this POV....Murica wants a renewed trade deal wid chinks cause all These years for every year Muricans were running trade deficit As big as 500 fuckin billion dollars (almost twice size of porki gdp)...So now they are using all pressure points to squeeze chinks into submission to have a trade deal where trade will be balanced from both sides or even surplus in murican balance sheet because post corona everyone desperately needs liquidity to revive economy And nobody can deny the Reality of 14 trillion Chinese economy... until chinks agree for balanced trade deal there will be propaganda from all sides imo...and if in future there is trade deal between us china We will know where d world is heading...At d end nothing is personal, nothing is ideological but everything is about money
And if I add on this lets say they are able to squeeze a trade deal with china and also able to regime change or bring current admin of India to submission in respect to trade so that they get favourable deals relating to defence and other departments then thay will have two of worlds biggest consumers in which one of them they are competing equally one with another one they are dumping their goods with no competition and also able to blunt the Russian defense industry with this move.
 

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Full confidence in Brown sepoys to justify this even after incessantly mocking "Atma Nirbhar Bharat".
screwed everbody's peace of mind with their globalisation nonsense, and now.....
and the surprising continuity in major policies from Trump to Biden..
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Riiiight. They are too screwed up to start a whole industrial base again from scratch. There is a reason the whole NorthEast of the US is called the Rust Belt. Apart from California and New York, America's industrial base isn't too strong to compete with the Chinese. Why would any company invest to start a factory and pay for American workers when China, Vietnam and India can do the same at a fraction of the cost?
 

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Riiiight. They are too screwed up to start a whole industrial base again from scratch. There is a reason the whole NorthEast of the US is called the Rust Belt. Apart from California and New York, America's industrial base isn't too strong to compete with the Chinese. Why would any company invest to start a factory and pay for American workers when China, Vietnam and India can do the same at a fraction of the cost?
me thinks part of that 2 trillion $ package will be used to support select companies or industries, to make it seem as if murica is bringing back manufacturing atleast on paper and in news media.

The fact that western media is still attacking India means murican administration are not serious on whatever they are saying about competing with China. either this or we are wrong and over estimating in our own assessment about Indian manufacturing capacity.
 

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If this is what democrats leadership is saying, and propaganda arm of democrats CNN continues to behave antagonistic to India which is at frontline of Chinese warfare.

DFI needs to analyse this a bit more, what the heck does US wants.
either there is a disconnect within murican establishment or as per plan.
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'We cannot be dependent on the Chinese market. It’s not only bad for our economies, it’s bad for our geopolitical-strategic interest.'

'You will never compete and win against them, unless you take back the means of production.'

Those coomers are in the state of "confused screaming" .
No matter what they believe but china today is not the same china that it was 2 decades ago that slapped them iphones with components made in South Korea or Japan. Those export control measures announced by dolun could only score a handful of tactical victories that too only initially because the same export controls are now hurting amreekunt back. For example China accounts for 25% of amreekunt manufacturers revenues while it got 3% semiconductors from amreekunts. These export controls also deter other foreign investors from investing in amreekunts because they might not sell to huge chinese market.

As for their subhuman behaviour towards BHARAT is basically due to their half assed academia which is full of bs about DHARMA. Then within democrats there are various sub groups and indoozals with their own sinister agenda acting as useful condoms of marxshits.

Demonizing Hindus is similar to how the Japanese were demonized during ww2 before a total war broke out.
Ofcourse Anti Defamation league studies can serve as role models for Hindus to combat this vermin Hinduphobic horseshit.
 

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Marxist purge of amreekunt patriots -
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This guy is also the new boss of amreekunts military 'countering extremism' taskforce.who will now separate permissible “opinion” from purgeable “extremism” at the pentagon which issued a formal memo on April 9 2021 describing its “Immediate Actions to Counter Extremism.” This memo establishes the Countering Extremism Working Group to develop and implement all “Counter Extremism” policies inside pentagon. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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From the above, You know that Bishop Garrison will lead the Cewg , which will function as a de facto “Opinion Police” for all pentagon personnel on a permanent, go-forward basis.

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You all should read about Project 1619. It refers to the year in which the first African slaves arrived. The idea of the 1619 Project is to replace 1776 with 1619 as the year of amrekunt’s founding, with a view toward casting the very existence of amreekunts as fundamentally evil and unjust illegal which it so righteously is.
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There is a new documentary called "the sons of sam" on netflix( i think).
for those who have no idea what US(in this case NewYork) used to be before tech boom happened, should watch it. after seeing the docu, compare it with how you are told newyork is and was as per US pop culture & news media today, and how vastly it differs from reality.

That's called soft power.

The reason i keep insisting on this every once in a while because of the inherent nature of "low self esteem" among majority of Indians, they assume india is bad/shitty place and all that nonsense. fact is every western country passed thru same stage as ours at some point in time in last 50-60 years.
 

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There is a new documentary called "the sons of sam" on netflix( i think).
for those who have no idea what US(in this case NewYork) used to be before tech boom happened, should watch it. after seeing the docu, compare it with how you are told newyork is and was as per US pop culture & news media today, and how vastly it differs from reality.

That's called soft power.

The reason i keep insisting on this every once in a while because of the inherent nature of "low self esteem" among majority of Indians, they assume india is bad/shitty place and all that nonsense. fact is every western country passed thru same stage as ours at some point in time in last 50-60 years.
The truth of the matter is that, the supposed western superiority these people talk about is a very recent and a transient phenomenon <300 years is midget tier and that too borne out of looting, pillage and genocide against actual civilisations and not really their own achievement. This is evident from the fact that the only period of time where the supposedly superior west even had an edge over proper civilisations of Asia, i.e. during the 18-20th century is also the time they looted and raided the Asian civilisations to enrich their pathetic decadent societies.Now once again they descended back into their historical role in the world- playing second fiddle to Asian civilisations or in process of losing out liken to amreekunts thats on decline.
 

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Marxist purge of amreekunt patriots -
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This guy is also the new boss of amreekunts military 'countering extremism' taskforce.who will now separate permissible “opinion” from purgeable “extremism” at the pentagon which issued a formal memo on April 9 2021 describing its “Immediate Actions to Counter Extremism.” This memo establishes the Countering Extremism Working Group to develop and implement all “Counter Extremism” policies inside pentagon. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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From the above, You know that Bishop Garrison will lead the Cewg , which will function as a de facto “Opinion Police” for all pentagon personnel on a permanent, go-forward basis.

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You all should read about Project 1619. It refers to the year in which the first African slaves arrived. The idea of the 1619 Project is to replace 1776 with 1619 as the year of amrekunt’s founding, with a view toward casting the very existence of amreekunts as fundamentally evil and unjust illegal which it so righteously is.
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Good! Let them destroy their own country. White christian muricans have lot of blood on their hand. They have it coming.

When India was wealthy and powerful we too had gone through same nonsense of vasudhaiv Kutumbakam and Buddhists pecifism. We reduced our hard power and welcomed hostile foreign barbarians. As a result we faced 1000 years of slavery, loot, destruction and still struggling to return to our old glory.

Before our collapse we had thousands of years of lagacy in culture, religion, art and science, what does America have? A few dacades of prosperity.

Roman empire that west loves to imitate, their fall happened from within. Now west is heading towards the same direction. In midst of all this chaos maybe a few western countries will realise the truth and course correct themselves but most will follow their leader UassA and jump of the cliff. This is where the chapter of western superiority will end in future, history books.
 

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The truth of the matter is that, the supposed western superiority these people talk about is a very recent and a transient phenomenon <300 years is midget tier and that too borne out of looting, pillage and genocide against actual civilisations and not really their own achievement. This is evident from the fact that the only period of time where the supposedly superior west even had an edge over proper civilisations of Asia, i.e. during the 18-20th century is also the time they looted and raided the Asian civilisations to enrich their pathetic decadent societies.Now once again they descended back into their historical role in the world- playing second fiddle to Asian civilisations or in process of losing out liken to amreekunts thats on decline.
looting and raiding is part of the game of reaality however and cant be seen as good or bad.just the way the world is.

there are no shoulds and cants in reality,if you are strong and cunning enough to hold onto whatever you have,you can hold on to it - might makes right.if you are foolish,weak,gullible or have low self esteem, you can lose what you have due to it even from a position of strength.the 'white' people as people over there seem to call them used a lot of the tricks of this game of reality in these 300 or so years and achieved a lot of lead in this race and now for some political-geopolitical-cultural-demographic reasons they are losing their lead to a point where only america(if it even can be called a 'white country seeing its future demographic trends) has some lead over china.

we as indians should study history of our own and the world and think like a deep learning AI and leave aside our cultural baggage that hinder power seeking so that atleast our interests are protected.

it will be difficult,me being a particularly stoic and quasi-sociopathic individual can hope to think like unfeeling AI,but indians in a critical mass should start thinking like this.or in other extreme case you can look at pakis and other failed states,always flailing about with lots of emotions from many cultural baggage which leads them nowhere and often times acts as bit players or pawns in others grand game.
 

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If this is what democrats leadership is saying, and propaganda arm of democrats CNN continues to behave antagonistic to India which is at frontline of Chinese warfare.

DFI needs to analyse this a bit more, what the heck does US wants.
either there is a disconnect within murican establishment or as per plan.
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'We cannot be dependent on the Chinese market. It’s not only bad for our economies, it’s bad for our geopolitical-strategic interest.'

'You will never compete and win against them, unless you take back the means of production.'

It's possible to bring manufacturing back to USA by adapting new methods of production.
 

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It's possible to bring manufacturing back to USA by adapting new methods of production.
Yes and No.

It is possible to bring some assembly level manufacturing to USA (and west) but component level manufacturing from raw materials is a different story.

We have to understand that manufacturing itself is a very messy process. It creates lot of pollution, requires ton of energy and manpower. Yes certain type of assembly can be done like how Tesla assembles their cars in USA. All the parts that goes in their car such as battery, electronics, rubber, glass, metal panels, etc, comes from foreign makers mostly from China. So when they say they want to completely remove or reduce outside dependence and make stuff 100% in America, it is lot difficult to do than say.

It is possible but they would have to completely redo their environment policy, energy policy, labour laws, tax regime and much more. Also such measures will have major impact on society so they will also need to create public consent for such major changes. Rightnow they aren't doing any of that instead doing opposite. Climate agreement, green new deal, minimum wage increase, gov handouts, blocking major energy pipelines, increased corporate tax etc.

Many dacades ago it was decided by western elites that manufacturing is a trivial process. Its messy and dirty, people who work in such jobs have low income so its not suitable for elite westerners. They decided to outsource such jobs to lower countries and they themselves pursued service economy. The idea was that westerners would sit in some AC office create designs of new products and outsource the dity manufacturing process to others. Thus they will enjoy lot of money and a clean environment without doing the dirtywork. Major companies supported this idea because it was good for their profit margins also it gave them global presence and a bargaining power with the govs of various nations.

However this service economy utopia started failing as manufacturing nations started generating in-depth knowledge of products that they where manufacturing. Skilled workers who produced products based on Western designs started copying, improving and making their own products for cheap thus competing with goras. Japan was first to do this. After seeing japanese companies completely dominating markets worldwide, westerners started crying same tune, "bring manufacturing back". However it was too late and resulted into destruction of America's industries namely auto and home appliances. Instead of learning from it they double downed on the same path thus giving away more to other countries such as Taiwan, SoKo, China, Vietnam, India, Mexico, Brazil, Thailand etc. Out of all these China benefitted the most as there are many other reasons but mostly it was CCP who saw opportunity and jumped on it at the right time.

Now again we are hearing same cries from some people in west about China's manufacturing powers. However IMO this too will be ignored as it doesn't suit agenda of profiteers and leftists policymakers. Even their general public has office job aspirations and are not interested in getting their hands dirty.

So what will happen? American policy makers will support some minor assembly level work just like Trump did. They will lable it as return of manufacturing to USA. Seeing assebled in USA logo will keep locals happy. China and USA will make a trade deal that will reduce some trade deficit. Meanwhile the business will run as usual in the background.

In long term American companies will lose so much to Asians and others that they will simply wouldn't be able to compete. The Detroit story will repeat but this time nationwide. Slowly Americans will lose their office jobs to others. Their economy will be devastated. They will slowly fall into irrelevance. Unless there is some major course correction in this dacade, This will be their fate.

Who knows maybe 50 years from now some rich Asian country will start outsourcing manufacturing to poor Americans desperate for any jobs. Maybe then manufacturing will finally return to UassA. :yo:
 
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