Breaking news: Maoist attack in Maharashtra, torched several vehicles, 15 commandos feared dead.

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Poverty stricken people, lacking in education, do not care for ideology or have the intellect to lap up complex thought process. They gravitate towards movements that empathize with their condition and offer a way out. There is lot of literature on India's naxal movement and its genenis and states that have successfully overcome such movements in the past. I chuckle at some individuals childlike like naivete on display here. You cannot fight against an enemy that you know nothing about.
Poverty stricken people don't roam jungles with AK 47&IED'S :rofl:

Millionaire suicide bombers in Srilanka or Poor tribals killing Polices in India is because of they are influenced by an IDEOLOGY.

PS:Some poor people may opt Theft&Robbery etc but they come under CRIME not TERROR... know the difference b/w Crime-Terror &ideology instead blabbering
There is no one reason for Naxalism in India.

But poverty isn't a major factor.

If poverty is the reason for their suffering then why do they stall economic project's, why do they prevent construction of Road, Hospital, School, railway etc.


If u say that Naxalism is tribals peoples fight agaisnt the Upper caste then just look at the top leaders of Naxal it will be clear.
The top most leader are always from General and Creamy OBC and the fodders are always tribal people.

U dont have to be Poor to he a naxal otheriwse you would have 200 million naxals.
 

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There is no one reason for Naxalism in India.

But poverty isn't a major factor.

If poverty is the reason for their suffering then why do they stall economic project's, why do they prevent construction of Road, Hospital, School, railway etc.


If u say that Naxalism is tribals peoples fight agaisnt the Upper caste then just look at the top leaders of Naxal it will be clear.
The top most leader are always from General and Creamy OBC and the fodders are always tribal people.

U dont have to be Poor to he a naxal otheriwse you would have 200 million naxals.
Intellectual base for naxals has always been the upper caste
 

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Intellectual base for naxals has always been the upper caste
If u look at history Almost all the Socilaist leaders were form middle class and upper middle class baground.

When u look at them in todays perspective you would almost feel like these were revolutionary waanabe rich spoiled brats that believe in ideal concept.
 

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Poverty stricken people, lacking in education, do not care for ideology or have the intellect to lap up complex thought process. They gravitate towards movements that empathize with their condition and offer a way out. There is lot of literature on India's naxal movement and its genenis and states that have successfully overcome such movements in the past. I chuckle at some individuals childlike like naivete on display here. You cannot fight against an enemy that you know nothing about.
Really.
What to start with ? Telangana, Moplah rebellion, Naxal movement in Punjab (no wonder Kejariwal thinks he can revive it), the mayhem they created in Bengal, Bihar, Chhotta Nagpur, Chhattisgarh, and now the Naxal belt.
Or the huge backward transition of Nepal ?

Naxalism will remain till it remains the "first responders" of anglican church and neo - colonialism. China has emerged as a challenging power but you as a Naxal can not sabotage the ideology because China has lost the "ideology" ? So do the next best thing - sabotage another rising economy - India.
 

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I think weaponized drones are needed against naxals. Only better tech can fight this menace.
DRDO and industry must come together to find solutions.
 

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If u look at history Almost all the Socilaist leaders were form middle class and upper middle class baground.

When u look at them in todays perspective you would almost feel like these were revolutionary waanabe rich spoiled brats that believe in ideal concept.
Yup communism is a quite attractive ideology and discussions on it happen in Air conditioned rooms sipping wine
 

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I think weaponized drones are needed against naxals. Only better tech can fight this menace.
DRDO and industry must come together to find solutions.
Then what will happen to Human Rights lobby?
Then what will happen to great conversion drive ?
Then what happens to big metal and mineral cartel who control and supply world's copper, iron, boxite, titanium, coal ore?
If there is no problem in Naxal corridor, India's richest mineral resources reservoir, India would not need to import most of mineral and metal - thousand of billion dollar business ! India will find a lot of Uranium deposits and get free from the clutches of nuclear suppliers = another billion dollar business.

For them throwing some crumbs does not matter to maintain their business. Since Chinese appetite and demand is dwindling for their supplies, growing India is the only hope.

So, you can not eliminate naxals.
 

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If u look at history Almost all the Socilaist leaders were form middle class and upper middle class baground.

When u look at them in todays perspective you would almost feel like these were revolutionary waanabe rich spoiled brats that believe in ideal concept.
Socialist means Communist also ?
Then people like Friedrich Engels was an industrialist. Many rich Industrialists of Britain are well nown to have supported Febian Socialism - that is soft Marxism.
In India, people like MN Roy, the founder of CPI was from a rich background. EMS Namboodiripad was counted amongst the big landowners in Kerala, SA Dange was from an upper middle class, C rajeswar Rao was also rich, people like Gupta had gone to oxford for their studies ... Jyoti basu and son were owners of factories...

So what are you saying ... that they were dessolutes like JJ Rousseau ? background may be anything but look where they land up ? Being Rich !
 

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Socialist means Communist also ?
Socialism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. The industrialist who owns the means of production promotes both ideologies simultaneously. He believes in capitalism for himself and communism for others. He tells his workers "work sets you free" "aaram haram hai" while his own kids are vacationing on a beach. Sowing the seeds of unionism in other people's factories allows one industrialist to prevent another competitor from ever matching up to him.

Even capitalist icon Ratan Tata, runs Tata Institute Of Social Sciences, and all the crap that comes out from this institute is communist poison. The recent thesis about merit being anti-women was also a product of TISS. Pro-Naxal orgs like Kabir Kala Manch are also products of this institute. Very ironic (or shall I say...poetic) that Tata's Nano factory was denied in W.B. because of 'the workers of the world uniting' against it. If you feed the snakes, don't expect them to bite just your neighbors.

V.P Singh introduced reservations in India, and his own children are working in the US.

So what are you saying ... that they were dessolutes like JJ Rousseau ? background may be anything but look where they land up ? Being Rich !
They already started rich to begin with.

Naxalism thrives in India because those businessmen who have a large entrenched stake in mining and natural resources don't want the democratization of the resources. They want to hold on to those mining rights, and they are perfectly fine bribing the Naxals and buying the resources from them. This prevents others from buying it. If the nation is able to enforce its writ on its natural resources and the sale of natural resources is made transparent (like 2G spectrum re-auction), then these guys lose big time. The rich Jews were doing a similar thing in Germany, at the expense of ordinary German folk. Ultimately a cleanup was due.
 
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15 jawans and a driver killed, still India is focusing on celebration over Azhar. Are elections so important ?
Anti naxal ops will definitely pick up speed after elections.
Naxal regions vote too. I guess there may be a slack right now.
 

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Socialism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. The industrialist who owns the means of production promotes both ideologies simultaneously. He believes in capitalism for himself and communism for others. He tells his workers "work sets you free" "aaram haram hai" while his own kids are vacationing on a beach. Sowing the seeds of unionism in other people's factories allows one industrialist to prevent another competitor from ever matching up to him.

Even capitalist icon Ratan Tata, runs Tata Institute Of Social Sciences, and all the crap that comes out from this institute is communist poison. The recent thesis about merit being anti-women was also a product of TISS. Pro-Naxal orgs like Kabir Kala Manch are also products of this institute. Very ironic (or shall I say...poetic) that Tata's Nano factory was denied in W.B. because of 'the workers of the world uniting' against it. If you feed the snakes, don't expect them to bite just your neighbors.

V.P Singh introduced reservations in India, and his own children are working in the US.



They already started rich to begin with.

Naxalism thrives in India because those businessmen who have a large entrenched stake in mining and natural resources don't want the democratization of the resources. They want to hold on to those mining rights, and they are perfectly fine bribing the Naxals and buying the resources from them. This prevents others from buying it. If the nation is able to enforce its writ on its natural resources and the sale of natural resources is made transparent (like 2G spectrum re-auction), then these guys lose big time. The rich Jews were doing a similar thing in Germany, at the expense of ordinary German folk. Ultimately a cleanup was due.
EU in its modern form is the same thing as well, loot the small countries and put them in debt at the same time.

Notice all the socialist were either jews or were jews converting to christianity or some conncetion with Jew.

Hitler wasn't a mad fella.

Kicked out of every country but never their fault. :troll:

Either the Goyim are trippin or the kike is at fault. :truestory:
 

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Socialism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin.
Really ??

The industrialist who owns the means of production promotes both ideologies simultaneously. He believes in capitalism for himself and communism for others. He tells his workers "work sets you free" "aaram haram hai" while his own kids are vacationing on a beach. Sowing the seeds of unionism in other people's factories allows one industrialist to prevent another competitor from ever matching up to him.
Oh! So simple ! Why can people understand that.
Even capitalist icon Ratan Tata, runs Tata Institute Of Social Sciences, and all the crap that comes out from this institute is communist poison. The recent thesis about merit being anti-women was also a product of TISS. Pro-Naxal orgs like Kabir Kala Manch are also products of this institute. Very ironic (or shall I say...poetic) that Tata's Nano factory was denied in W.B. because of 'the workers of the world uniting' against it. If you feed the snakes, don't expect them to bite just your neighbors.
How true. So TATA decide the academics of TSS ?

V.P Singh introduced reservations in India, and his own children are working in the US.
Ok. So VP Singh was an OBC and in spite his children could not get a job in India. So they had to go to USA. Anyone working in USA is bloody capitalist !

They already started rich to begin with.
But then want to be poor again.

Naxalism thrives in India because those businessmen who have a large entrenched stake in mining and natural resources don't want the democratization of the resources. They want to hold on to those mining rights, and they are perfectly fine bribing the Naxals and buying the resources from them. This prevents others from buying it. If the nation is able to enforce its writ on its natural resources and the sale of natural resources is made transparent (like 2G spectrum re-auction), then these guys lose big time.
I thought corruption is more competitive and transparent. Any one who can pay more takes it. Guns are coercive and prevents competition. Who can be interested in preventing exploitation of resources ?

The rich Jews were doing a similar thing in Germany, at the expense of ordinary German folk. Ultimately a cleanup was due.
Strange meeting ground of confusion and anti - Semitism. Are you an Ibrahmic ?
 

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Anti naxal ops will definitely pick up speed after elections.
Naxal regions vote too. I guess there may be a slack right now.
Naxals sell the votes. It is a harvest time for them.
 

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EU in its modern form is the same thing as well, loot the small countries and put them in debt at the same time.

Notice all the socialist were either jews or were jews converting to christianity or some conncetion with Jew.

Hitler wasn't a mad fella.

Kicked out of every country but never their fault. :troll:

Either the Goyim are trippin or the kike is at fault. :truestory:
Jews on Quora are still selling the snake oil of "Hitler accused us of communism, Stalin accused us of capitalism. How can we be both?". They really think Goyims lack iodine.
 

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EU in its modern form is the same thing as well, loot the small countries and put them in debt at the same time.

Notice all the socialist were either jews or were jews converting to christianity or some conncetion with Jew.

Hitler wasn't a mad fella.

Kicked out of every country but never their fault. :troll:

Either the Goyim are trippin or the kike is at fault. :truestory:
You have very strong anti -Semitic streaks.
Do you believe in the "Secret Society" and "Illuminati" theories.
All jews were not Karl Marx. They were people like Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud also. In science Elbert Einstein and schopenhauer contributed quite a lot to humanity. many well known bankers and industrialist of the world have been Jews. Most harassed and persecuted community of the world.

Are you a Muslim masquerading as "bhumihar" ?
 

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Really ??

Oh! So simple ! Why can people understand that.

How true. So TATA decide the academics of TSS ?

Ok. So VP Singh was an OBC and in spite his children could not get a job in India. So they had to go to USA. Anyone working in USA is bloody capitalist !

But then want to be poor again.

I thought corruption is more competitive and transparent. Any one who can pay more takes it. Guns are coercive and prevents competition. Who can be interested in preventing exploitation of resources ?
Strange meeting ground of confusion and anti - Semitism. Are you an Ibrahmic ?
What @Haldiram wants to say is the dichotomy of socialism. It strives to remove economic inequality but ends up increasing more inequality. Since socialism believes in an egalitarian society, where everyone has equal share of resources. But its human nature to fight for a greater share of resources for itself as selfishness is a natural trait. Hence, when the self interest clashes with social interest, there comes the need for regulation. This regulation ultimately leads to exploitation and oppresion, against which the socialist began its journey. The leaders of socialist ideology demand a greater share of resources coz they are fighting for the rights of others. And thus the inequality continues. :lehappy:
 

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It strives to remove economic inequality but ends up increasing more inequality
Naww man..I'm just saying that lefties are straight up fooling gullible masses by claiming that someone else stole their resources (while they themselves are one of them). Hunting with the hounds and running with the hares.

If they strive for a class-less society, then why does the polit-bureau have hierarchy with a supreme leader at the top? the org structure should be completely flat with a low level entrant should be able to perform the job of the admin and treasurer at the same time and the supreme leader must be wiping floors.

The lefties are not organic sprouts. They are paid and cultivated by the capitalists to divert public attention and create a strife between the middle class and labor class so that the enterprising middle class are forever caught up putting out fires set by the labor class and doesn't have any energy left to challenge the monopoly of the rich people.

A carorepati like Arundhati Roy tells an adivasi that a middle class person like me stole all his resources and now the advasi is standing outside my house with an axe and Arundhati is sipping wine in her villa, sponsored by the person who actually stole the resources. Otherwise why does TISS sponsor Kabir Kala Manch in his sprawling university? who dies in a Naxal attack? our people. Who benefits from the attack? Tata will now sell Tata Kestrel armored vehicles to the government.
 
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