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Brazil buys French jets


Brazil agreed to buy 36 Rafales in a deal worth several billion dollars. -- PHOTO: AFP
PARIS - FRANCE'S Rafale fighter jet, which sought foreign buyers for a decade until Brazil agreed on a deal on Monday, is a versatile plane flying bombing missions in Afghanistan.
Built by French aircraft maker Dassault Aviation, the 50 million euro (S$102 million) Rafale was created to replace seven types of jets including the Mirage when it rolled out of factories in 1998.
But it failed to find an overseas customer until Brazil agreed to buy 36 Rafales in a deal worth several billion dollars during a visit by French President Nicolas Sarkozy.
France plans to have a fleet of 294 Rafale fighter jets, including 60 for its navy. Nearly 80 jets have been delivered to the air force and the navy so far.
The Rafale can fly as fast as Mach 1.8 - 2,000km per hour, or nearly twice the speed of sound. The delta-shaped plane, featuring canard forward stabilisers, weighs 10,000km, has a wingspan of 10.8m and is 15.3m long.
It can take off after 400m, fly distances of up to 3,800 km and has a radius of action of more than 1,000 nautical miles (1,850km).
The multi-role jet was designed to have the ability to take on air-to-air combat, reconnaissance flights and nuclear bombing missions. It has special technology giving it a very small radar profile, and a combat awareness system allowing it to engage multiple targets at up to 200km away.
Because targets can be detected 'beyond visual range' the cockpit offers interaction like in advanced computer games - including imaging inside the pilot's helmet and voice commands.
Many 'hard points' on its fuselage can anchor 10,000km of missiles, bombs and/or external fuel tanks. The latest version of the Rafale flies regularly in Afghan skies, dropping 250-kilogram laser-guided US bombs to support Nato troops on the ground.
While the United Arab Emirates has expressed interest in acquiring the Rafale, several countries have turned down the opportunity to buy the plane, including South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Singapore and the Netherlands. -- AFP

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it is a very logical step for the FAB To go with the rafale due to the fact that it has been operating the Mirage Serise for quite a while now from the MirageIII/5/50 serise to the recent addtion of the Mirage -2000C as a stop gap and besides the rafale can call up already established tatics and other mirage orianted infrastructure
 

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Brazil, France sign multi-billion dollar arms pact

Updated on Tuesday, September 08, 2009, 09:18 IST Tags:Brazil, France, multi-billion, dollar, pact

Brasilia: Brazil and France have signed a major arms pact worth billions of dollars that includes transfer of key military technologies, building of submarines and purchase of helicopters.


The agreement was sealed after a meeting between French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his Brazilian counterpart Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva here Monday.

The pact will allow the two countries to share key military technologies, including building of five submarines, one of which is nuclear-powered, in the country, as well as the purchase of 50 EC-725 helicopters by Brazil.

The deal, estimated at about $12.3 billion, will be executed by 2021. About $9 billion have been allocated for purchase of French military equipments.

The choppers would be built in Brazil in collaboration with the Eurocopter firm, an affiliate of the European EADS group.

Separately, Brazil would also begin negotiations for the purchase of 36 Rafale combat aircraft from the French firm Dassault Aviation, officials said. Sweden's Saab and the US' Boeing Company are also vying for the aircraft deal, which has not been finalised.

"It's only a decision to begin negotiations," Lula said at a joint press conference with Sarkozy Monday.

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Brazil to buy 36 Rafale fighter planes from France
2009-09-08 01:46:14 GMT2009-09-08 09:46:14 (Beijing Time) Xinhua English

BRASILIA, Sept. 7 (Xinhua) -- Brazil is to buy 36 ultra-modern Rafale fighter jets from France, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Sivla and his visiting French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy announced in a joint communique on Monday.

The deal, with an estimated worth of 4 to 7 billion U.S. dollars, will support Brazil's air force for the next 30 years, and supply it with multi-role combat jets which are the most advanced in Latin America.

The plane maker, French company Dassault, will finalize the sale to Brazil in 2010, while delivery will be made starting from 2013.

Along with the fighter jets, France is also exporting the technology to Mexico. Only the first six fighter jets will be made entirely in France. The rest will be assembled in Mexico.

The transfer of aviation technology is key to the success of this deal, while Brazil's negotiations with Sweden for the Gripen plane, made by Saab, and with the United States for Boeing's F18, failed.

"We are definitively consolidating a strategic partnership we started in 2005," Lula said at a joint news conference with Sarkozy in Brasilia.

The deal adds to the 10-billion-dollar bill Brazil has already struck with France to buy five submarines, with one to be converted to nuclear power, and 50 military transport helicopters.

In return, Sarkozy said France will buy some 10 Brazilian military transport aircraft KC-390 to carry light military loads.

At the press conference, Lula and Sarkozy said both countries wish to keep cooperation in building and selling aeronautic military equipment.

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use google translater to confirm its the best french source that officially confirmed the report



Le Brésil doit acheter 36 Rafale, la France 12 avions brésiliens KC390

Le Brésil doit acheter 36 Rafale, la France 12 avions brésiliens KC390

Le Brésilien s'engage à négocier l'achat de 36 avions de combat français Dassault Rafale. En échange, la France va faire l'acquisition d'avions militaires brésiliens Embraer KC390.

La première vente à l'exportation du dernier avion de combat françaisDassault Rafale n'a jamais été aussi proche. Lors de la visite au Brésil de Nicolas Sarkozy, Brasilia s'est engagé à négocier pour son armée de l'air la FAB l'achat de 36 Rafale.

En échange, la France va faire l'acquisition de douze avions militaires de transport et de ravitaillement le futur Embraer KC390.

Le Rafale est donc en passe de l'emporter face au suédois Gripen (Saab), qui avait curieusement la préférence de la FAB alors que c'est un monomoteur — ce qui le disqualifie aux yeux des spécialistes en raison de l'étendue de l'Amazonie —, et au F18 de Boeing.



Le président brésilien Lula avait expliqué ces derniers jours que « la France s'est montrée le pays le plus flexible pour le transfert de technologie et, évidemment, cela est un avantage comparatif exceptionnel".. Hier, il a déclaré sur TV5 Monde et RFI que les « discussions sont très avancées et je pense que nous arriverons à un bon terme avec la France."

Le contrat pourrait être annoncé formellement le 23 octobre lors du 103e anniversaire du premier vol de Santos-Dumont à Bagatelle.
 

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domain-b.com : Boeing, Dassault in dogfight over Brazil's fighter contract

With the French Dassault threatening to walk away with Brazil's tender for 36 fighter aircraft with its Rafale multi-role fighter offering, American defence contractor Boeing Co is making an improved offer for its F/A-18 Super Hornets to swing the deal its way. Boeing has now offered to assemble most of the fighters in Brazil.

Boeing has said it wants to manufacture just the first 12 planes in the US and transfer equipment and tools for assembly lines in Brazil, where Sao Jose dos Campos-based Empresa Brasileira Aeronautica SA (Embraer) could assemble the remainder.


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According to Boeing officials in Brasilia, the offer to assemble most of the aircraft in Brazil has US government sanction.

Brazil is intent on developing an advanced defence industry of its own and a broad strategic defence alliance signed with France last year has given the European country's defence companies a competitive edge in an area which hitherto was recognised as an exclusive preserve of American companies.

The Brazilian contract is potentially worth much more than 36 fighters, for if this South American regional power should expand the contract to around 100 aircraft, as is surmised, then the value of the deal will shoot up to around $7.2 billion. (See: France, Brazil close to inking $7.2 billion deal for Rafale fighters)

Unlike Boeing, Dassault wishes to manufacture just six of these fighters at home and allow Brazil to construct the rest with full technology transfer. It has also said it will buy 10 Embraer designed and manufactured KC-390 military transport aircraft and has offered Brazil marketing rights for the South American region.

The problem with the Rafale, though top-of-the-line, is that it is also a pricy product and for that reason Brazil has said that the deal is dependent on Dassault offering a price that is competitive, comparable to that being offered to the French air force.

Boeing has also dismissed the marketing offer for Rafale in the South American region as a 'marketing ploy' for nations in the area are not likely to afford this pricy aircraft or are already committed to other products.

For the record, Boeing, Dassault and Sweden's Saab AB, are all being allowed to amend their bids delivered in June, and Brazil's air force is expected to make its recommendation this month.

For Dassault this is a particularly vulnerable moment as it has lost a number of overseas contracts to its American competitors in recent years, including one in Morocco that it thought it already had in the bag.

It will also be conscious that developments in Brazil will be keenly watched by India where the three finalists in Brazil are once again in contention for a massive 126-aircraft Indian Air Force order.
 

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French unions against military technology transfer to Brazil

French unions are not pleased with the transfer of military technology to Brazil recently agreed between presidents Nicholas Sarkozy and Lula da Silva, according to press reports.
The Rafale fighter bomber which Brazil is interested in, including avionics

“There’s something which troubles us in this contract and is the fact that Brazil wants to have its own military air industry and that the agreement with Dassault, the French government and the Brazilian government includes the transfer of technology”, said Dominique Richard, a workers union leader from Dassault Aviation, France’s main aircraft manufacturer.
Dassault designed and builds the Rafale fighter-bomber which France is prepared to sell to Brazil.
On signing a major military hardware agreement with French president Sarkozy, Lula da Silva said he was inclined to choose the French fighter Rafale because France is prepared to transfer sensitive technology and would also allow them to be assembled in Brazil.
Brazilian Foreign Affairs minister Celso Amorim also revealed that France is prepared to authorize the sale of those aircrafts to other Latinamerican countries.
Meanwhile Brazil will continue to consider the French offer for the Rafale, together with Boeing’s F-18 Super Hornet and Sweden’s Saab, Gripen.
Union leader Richard told Folha do Sao Paulo that the agreement threatens Dassault Aviation jobs in France.
Brazilian Defence minister Nelson Jobim has repeatedly said that with French technology, Brazil plans to become the leading military hardware manufacturer in Latinamerica with the largest military-industrial complex in the region.
However from France, Dassault in an official statement denied that the military cooperation agreement reached between France and Brazil, which includes submarines and helicopters, would have a negative impact on French jobs, underlined Dassault.



French unions against military technology transfer to Brazil — MercoPress
 

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Boeing Meets With Brazilian Industry to Reaffirm F/A-18E/F as Best-Value Solution in Brazil's F-X2 Competition

13:06 GMT, September 15, 2009 SÃO PAULO | The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today kicked off a two-day conference with 140 potential partner and supplier companies in São Paulo, reaffirming its commitment to fulfill all of Brazil's requirements with its Super Hornet solution to the F-X2 fighter competition.

"We are confident that our offer represents the best-value solution for Brazil, offering the most advanced technology, a proven superior logistics-support system and a price that is considerably lower than that of the Rafale," said Bob Gower, vice president of the Boeing F/A-18E/F Program.

Competitors have been given until Sept. 18 to make further improvements to their offers, and Boeing is looking at all options.

Boeing delivered an offer to the Brazilian Air Force in August that included full technology transfer. The offer also includes the option of Super Hornet co-production in Brazil and the sharing of technology that would allow Brazil to integrate its own weapons.

The U.S. Department of Defense, Department of State, and Congress have fully authorized and approved the Super Hornet sale to Brazil.

"The U.S. government has taken unprecedented steps to support this opportunity, both in terms of accelerating the normal approval process and in supporting Brazil’s goals for national autonomy," said Gower.

During the conference, Boeing Supplier Management leaders are meeting with representatives from Brazilian firms to discuss the requirements and certifications necessary to do business with Boeing, and to gain a better understanding of the particular standards and complexities of conducting international business in the aerospace industry.

"Boeing's goal is to assemble a supply chain that represents the very best of industry, and we see promising opportunities in Brazil," said Ron Shelley, vice president of Supplier Management & Global Sourcing for Boeing Integrated Defense Systems. "Opportunities for companies in Latin America's largest nation extend far beyond the F-X2 competition to all areas of Boeing's business."

Boeing has a 100 percent success rate in conducting industrial cooperation programs in nearly 40 countries. It has completed more than $31 billion of industrial obligations on time or ahead of schedule. Boeing currently has more than 45 active industrial programs worth an additional $13 billion in more than 17 countries, representing more than a dozen Boeing products.
 

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Brazil President Has Last Word on Fighter: FM - Defense News

RIO DE JANEIRO - President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva will have the final say on who will sell billions of dollars in fighter jets to Brazil to modernize its air force, Foreign Minister Celso Amorim said September 11.

"President Lula has the last word; of course, he will take into account the position of the National Defense Committee," Amorim told international journalists in Rio.


"Let me reiterate: there was an evaluation of various proposals, and Brazil made the decision to start negotiations with France. Its proposal was the most favorable," he added.

Rival bidders trying to sell fighter jets to Brazil have made a final push for the multi-billion-dollar contract, which had looked all but sewn up by France's Dassault.

Sweden's Saab and the United States, backing defense contractor Boeing in the race, both emphasized they would transfer important technology to meet Brazil's requirement that it not only acquire new jets but also the knowhow to build them.

But a Brazilian official speaking to AFP on condition of anonymity said French President Nicolas Sarkozy wrote to Lula promising "unrestricted access to technology" in the Dassault offer and a competitive price.

That letter was "instrumental" in Lula's announcement on Monday that he was opening negotiations to buy 36 Rafale fighter jets from Dassault, the official said. A French official said the deal was worth up to seven billion dollars.

Lula's announcement prompted the U.S. government, through a statement on its embassy Web site in Brazil, to say it had approved the transfer to Brazil of "all necessary technology" related to its F/A-18 Super Hornet aircraft.

Saab, in its own statement on September 10, underlined that it, too, would give "key technology" if Brazil chose its Gripen NG fighter.

But the Brazilian official said those offers were "unlikely to change the situation because it's not clear what is 'necessary technology' when another competitor guarantees 'unrestricted technology.'"
 

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I can't imagine they would give "full ToT" to Brazil unless they see the future of their fighter sales at an end. Brazil could outsell them in a heartbeat with their low wages.
 

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Sweden vies with US, France to sell warplanes to Brazil

Brasilia: Sweden is ready to sell fighter jets to Brazil for half the price of French- or US-made aircraft and will give the South American country the capability to upgrade the planes as needed, Stockholm's Deputy Defence Minister has said.


Sweden's Saab is competing with Dassault and Boeing to sell 36 planes to the Brazilian air force.

Saab's entry is the Gripen NG, while Dassault offers the Rafale and Boeing touts the F-18 Super Hornet.

Stockholm will provide "quite favourable financing" if Brazil opts for the Gripen, Hakan Jevrell told a press conference in Brasilia, adding Sweden prefers "strategic partners" as opposed to mere customers.

He said the Swedish government is totally committed to technology transfer, one of the conditions laid down by Brazil.

"Sweden can offer a programme of joint development of an airplane, with (Brazilian aircraft manufacturer) Embraer, that has as its principal characteristic the capacity to adapt to the specific necessities of each user," the official said.

Jevrell said Saab's proposal is "very attractive" on the basis of both price and the possibility it provides to continuously upgrade the Gripen over the plane's projected 40-year useful life.

Boeing, Dassault and Saab have until Monday to present their final proposals.

Even so, Brazilian officials have signalled a clear preference for the Rafale, notably during President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva's talks two weeks ago with French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy.

Lula announced then the start of negotiations on the purchase of the Dassault planes, though he said later that his statement did not imply the contract had been awarded to France.

Brasilia has already signed a deal with Paris for the construction of five French-designed submarines in Brazil, including one nuclear-powered vessel.
 

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How Obama Tried to Kill the Brazil-France Military Deal IDRW.ORG

Les Echos, a French daily, has shown a little of what they say happened backstage during the negotiations between Brazil and France to buy the French military jet Rafale. Trying to upstage his French colleague, American president Barack Obama called Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva twice, says the Paris newspaper.
Les Echos revealed up-to-now unknown information on the Obama administration’s efforts to make sure the Brazilian government would choose the F-18 manufactured by Boeing, instead of the French fighter. The planes are for the renewal of FAB’s (Brazil’s Air Force) fleet

As reported by the publication, “Until the beginning of 2009, the competition was only a French-Swedish duel. Starting in mid-July, however, there was a change of atmosphere: Boeing and the Obama administration deployed the steamroller.

“From his vacation spot, the American president calls Lula to tell him that the United States will go the extra mile in terms of technological transfer and Congress will guarantee it.”

According to Les Echos, the US started an “influence battle” and sent the following message to a French negotiator: “We didn’t think that this thing would go so far in disinformation.”

The newspaper tells that Obama only decided to personally take part in the negotiations after finding out how remote were the chances of the F-18 winning the bid against the Rafale.

The first Obama call happened during his vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, between August 23 and 30. According to the newspaper, Obama called Lula and offered himself as guarantor that the technology transfer of the F-18 would be approved by the American Congress. He then promised to call again when he got the confirmation of the Congress approval.

Despite Obama’s assurances, the French paper says that Lula called Sarkozy, August 31st, to tell the French president that he had chosen the Rafale. When he arrived in Brazilian capital Brasília, September 6, on the eve of the Brazilian Independence Day, Sarkozy tried to get a public statement that Brazil had opted for the French solution.

On September 7 all the signs indicated that Brazil had made its mind, but it seems that the Obama charm was already starting to work.

Since then the French seem to be in overdrive to secure the agreement. Les Echos tells that Nicolas Sarkozy was awoken at 3 am to agree to the terms that were concocted by the Brazilian Defense minister and the Air Force chief on one side and Sarkozy’s chief of staff and Dassault-Aviation boss on the other.

On September 16, Defense minister Nelson Jobim, who had complained in the past about the Rafale’s high cost, confirmed his preference for the French war plane mainly because of the promised technological transfer. More than once Jobim doubted the good faith of the Americans. “I’m a lawyer,” he said, “and I work with jurisprudence. The precedents I have from the United States are bad.”

Brazilian newspaper O Estado de S. Paulo tried to check the information published by Les Echos and got some contradictory answers.

While a Brazilian source involved with the negotiations commented: “Whoever wrote the story seems to be an insider,” an aide to Lula dismissed the whole affair: “There’s absolutely nothing to it. I find very unlikely, almost impossible that there has been a call from Obama.”
 

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Sweden Sweetens Bid for Brazil Fighter Jet Deal

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BRASILIA - Sweden has sweetened its bid for a lucrative contract to sell 36 fighter jets to Brazil, promising that 40 percent of the supersonic Gripen aircraft would be built in Brazil, officials said September 17.

The offer came on top of a promise that Brazil would have full access to the technology used in the state-of-the-art military aircraft.A similar offer helped give France front-runner status in high-stakes bidding for the coveted fighter jet contract, valued at $4 billion to $7 billion.

"The Swedish government and the SAAB motor company are 100 percent committed to making the technology transfer," Swedish State Secretary for Defense Hakan Jevrell said at a press conference, accompanied by a Saab representative.

"There will be no restriction in the transfer of technology."

Jevrell said that in addition to the technology, Sweden would offer Brazil "a very competitive price" for the fighter jets.

The sweetener offered by Stockholm is the latest from one of three major aerospace powers - France, Sweden and the United States - jostling to win the coveted fighter jet contract, as Brazil seeks to modernize its air force in a bid to become Latin America's preeminent military power.

French manufacturer Dassault appears to have a lock on the contract: Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and French President Nicolas Sarkozy last week issued a joint statement opening Brazil's official negotiations to buy 36 of Dassault's Rafale jets without, however, ending the tender process.

The Swedish offer is in line with requirements laid out by President Lula, who said he wants to secure technology transfers and build the planes in Brazil.

Dassault, fielding its high-tech Rafale fighter, had been seen as the leading contender because of its guarantee to share all technology with Brazil.

"The air force has the technological know-how to make the evaluation, and it will do so," he added. "But the decision is political and strategic, and it's up to the president of the republic and no one else," Lula said recently.

Brazil has set a September 21 deadline for the contenders to finalize their bids.

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08:09 GMT, September 18, 2009 While the Brazilian government decides to give another chance for the companies to improve their offers in the bid for the new fighter planes Brazil is buying, the technology transfer for this type of airplane has already begun with at least one of the competitors, Saab.

Leaded by Akaer, the companies Friuli, Winnstal, Minoica and Imbra Aerospace sent a team of 20 Brazilian engineers and technicians to Sweden to start working on the project of the new Swedish fighter, the Gripen NG, produced by Saab Aerosystems. Besides the Swedish group, the American Boeing and the French Dassault are competing to sell 36 fighters to the Brazilian Air Force.

"The actual cooperation with Saab started on August 31, with the objective of totally engaging all companies in the project, including the mastering of important technologies in the aircraft and access to all sensitive areas in the company plant in Linköping, Sweden", explains the Akaer CEO, César Augusto da Silva. T1, the holding joining the five Brazilian companies involved in the new Swedish fighter project, will be responsible for projecting and manufacturing the central and rear fuselages and wings of the Gripen NG.

According to the Akaer officer, though the success of the partnership with Saab is in a way dependent on the F-X2 project, considering the possibility that Brazil becomes the launching client of the Gripen NG if it is chosen, this factor is not necessarily decisive for the permanence of the Brazilian companies in the development of the new fighter. "Our companies were selected in an international offer within Saabs strategy of finding international partners for the project," he explains.

Technology transfer in the area of structures made of composed materials, according to the Akaer director, will enable Brazilian companies to become world-class suppliers for any client of the Gripen NG fighter. The holding's idea is to form a new aeronautical center in Brazil in the area of intelligence development and airplane production cycle, leaving behind the phase of being a mere part supplier.

"We would not be involved only in the process of making parts with no added value or engineering activity. The issue is not only making, but knowing how to make, and we have started learning that in this joint work," comments Akaer technical director Ricardo Fontes. The information exchange in the project, engineering and manufacturing areas of the Swedish fighters is being done, according to Fontes, with the authorization of the Swedish government.

Akaer predicts that as from next year a team of at least 150 engineers and technicians from the T1 holding will start working in Brazil together with 20 Swedish specialists. The Brazilians already in Sweden will work there for a six-month period, according to Fontes.

The directors of Akaer estimate that in four years the holding's turnover will reach US$ 500 million and around 2.9 thousand job posts will be created in the next 10 years. "If the F-X2 result favors the Gripen, in six months we will double the current number of collaborators," says Silva. "The partnership with Saab may be a huge technological leap with the same impact AMX had to Embraer, when they were enabled to develop their very successful family of regional jets."


Brazil will help shaping supersonic plane wings

The manager of the Structural Segments Project of the new Swedish fighter Gripen NG, materials engineer Fernando Ferraz, responsible for the area of engineering and quality in Akaer, was summoned to coordinate the training of the 20 Brazilian engineers who are in Sweden learning to decipher the technology of supersonic airplanes. "It is the first time a Brazilian company has the chance to shape the wing of a supersonic airplane."

From the manufacturing standpoint, according to the engineer, the level of requirements for the parts, which will be made of composed materials, is more critical because the parts are thicker and the materials are more resistant than those used in civil aircraft. "Akaer is quite experienced in the project and calculation areas, but with the Gripen NG program we will also acquire manufacturing know how."

One of the points highlighted by him is that during the phase of learning new technologies, the Brazilian team will be involved in the development process from the beginning. "We will use computer tools involved in the process from the initial concept to the end product." According to Ferraz, in Brazil there is still no company in the aeronautical sector, with the exception of Embraer, that can integrate the whole process of producing an important part of a plane.

The suppliers in the Brazilian aeronautical chain, according to him, have reached a very good technical level, but have managing and integration deficiencies. "This is our opportunity to change that situation. We will gain integration in a quicker way." Today, the integration is done through foreign suppliers that receive partially finished sets and finish them in Brazil.
 

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