BrahMos Cruise Missile

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This will help make matters clear.

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There's no way in hell that a Brahmos missile will weigh only 1.5 tons after having burnt its fuel of kerosene.

So feel free be to think whatever you wish .. ...
 

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Told you not to be an arsehole.

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500 kg GP bomb contains 192 kg Torpex 4B. LoL 🤣😆

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450 kg HSLD contains 210 kg of HE. Dentex.

Told you many times before that 900 kg warhead doesn't mean it uses 900 kg of explosives.

There are a variety of factors.


Now if I use 4.2 million joules for each kg of TNT, then we get 3780 million joules for Spice 2000 and 1260 for Brahmos.


As I have said earlier, had Brahmos been used instead of Spice, that building in Jaba top in Balakot wouldn't be standing still.


PLS ANSWER- WHY WAS THE STRUCTURE TILL INTACT, HAD STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY despite using SPICE 2000???

Am waiting for your answer.
 

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Did you manage to find what TNT equivalent is?

:rofl:
Did you manage to find the answer as to why the building was still standing after receiving more than 2 Spice 2000 direct hits???

Or are you fumbling to find an answer?:pound::cool3::clap2::cruisin2:

Let me also tell you something. A combatant commander like a commander or a corps commander doesn't have to decide which warhead to switch when he is using a Brahmos. Brahmos is equally effective against both hardened and non hardened targets .

Had spice been so effective or rather the warhead, DRDO and NPO wouldnt have gone to great lengths to design and develope a different specialised warhead for Brahmos. They could have simply taken a Slice 1000 and install the warhead within the size andass constraints.

Pls answer why was the building still standing in Balakot . Even after three Spice 2000 hits.
 

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It's ridiculous to think that spice is more powerful than brahmos.
 

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Nope I was not. That doc contained the relevant part. If you are unable to discern wheat from chaff, it's your prob. Not mine .

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That light yellow portion is the kerosene fuel for the sustainer motors. The fuel combined with the solid booster doesn't weigh anywhere near 1.5 tons.
Continue posting stupid stuff mate.

Please continue telling people that 1 TNT equivalent of energy is 2.175*10^6 joules. See them laugh at you.

As I said before in post #2442, it doesn't matter even if the fuel fraction of brahmos is zero, even after assuming brahmos fuel fraction as zero and redoing the calculations, the energy of spice will still be greater than brahmos.

The only question was weight of actual explosive in the warhead. You once again fail to get the point and continue to clutch at straws. Typical. Continue your ranting.

PS: Another source of value of TNT equivalent
 

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450 kg HSLD which happens to be the latest stuff from ARDE has 210 kg filling. If I were to extrapolate the same to Spice 2000, which is after all a kit to which you fit your own bomb body, what do I get ?

420 kgs of explosive filling for aa 900 kg bomb .... 4.2 million joules per kg of TNT. Do the math.


Brahmos warhead has a much better explosive packing efficency , uses HEMEX and some other stuff. Has a higher VOD and blast performance than any other material DRDO has ever produced for a warhead.

And this isn't even the latest. A better warhead is already in service .
 

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450 kg HSLD which happens to be the latest stuff from ARDE has 210 kg filling. If I were to extrapolate the same to Spice 2000, which is after all a kit to which you fit your own bomb body, what do I get ?

420 kgs of explosive filling for aa 900 kg bomb .... 4.2 million joules per kg of TNT. Do the math.


Brahmos warhead has a much better explosive packing efficency , uses HEMEX and some other stuff. Has a higher VOD and blast performance than any other material DRDO has ever produced for a warhead.

And this isn't even the latest. A better warhead is already in service .
DRDO has only produced warhead for brahmos.
 

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Continue posting stupid stuff mate.

Please continue telling people that 1 TNT equivalent of energy is 2.175*10^6 joules. See them laugh at you.

As I said before in post #2442, it doesn't matter even if the fuel fraction of brahmos is zero, even after assuming brahmos fuel fraction as zero and redoing the calculations, the energy of spice will still be greater than brahmos.

The only question was weight of actual explosive in the warhead. You once again fail to get the point and continue to clutch at straws. Typical. Continue your ranting.

PS: Another source of value of TNT equivalent
I don't post stupid stuff.

The entire forum is witness to your stupidity . Ti provided the link of the site from where I took 2.175 . It's fas.org .....

I have provided you enough material to connect the dots . If you fail to do so, it's your shortcoming. You are only person and probably the last person to claim that Spice 2000 is more powerful than Brahmos.

Have a great day . Or rather good night . I won't comment on this further since I have already made my point .

PS- If you ever get a chance , do visit an IAF TRS-1455 radar station or similar ASR radar station. I myself don't have the fortune but a classmate in college who was in NCC had the goods fortune of visiting a radar station near Kalaikunda AFS.

The entire complex or rather from where they control stuff and perform GCI is sub terranean. Bond level stuff. A Spice 2000 with a direct hit won't be able to do zilch here. A Brahmos will penetrate through the layers of earth and RCc and do it's magic .

I rest my case.
 

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Told you not to be an arsehole.

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500 kg GP bomb contains 192 kg Torpex 4B. LoL 🤣😆

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450 kg HSLD contains 210 kg of HE. Dentex.

Told you many times before that 900 kg warhead doesn't mean it uses 900 kg of explosives.

There are a variety of factors.


Now if I use 4.2 million joules for each kg of TNT, then we get 3780 million joules for Spice 2000 and 1260 for Brahmos.


As I have said earlier, had Brahmos been used instead of Spice, that building in Jaba top in Balakot wouldn't be standing still.


PLS ANSWER- WHY WAS THE STRUCTURE TILL INTACT, HAD STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY despite using SPICE 2000???

Am waiting for your answer.
Never claimed it does.

I made a few assumptions and did calculations. The assumption was entire warhead contains explosives and the explosive is TNT. You on the other hand, were such a huge moron, who didn't even know the value of TNT equivalent, and was arguing without having a point.

Now it seems that in this post you have accepted that 1 kg of TNT produces 4.2 million joules of energy? Finally bulb lighted in your tiny head?

And as I told you, SPICE has a different variant which can destroy buildings too. The version used in Balakot, deliberately leaves the structure intact. Why is this so hard to understand?
 

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450 kg HSLD which happens to be the latest stuff from ARDE has 210 kg filling. If I were to extrapolate the same to Spice 2000, which is after all a kit to which you fit your own bomb body, what do I get ?

420 kgs of explosive filling for aa 900 kg bomb .... 4.2 million joules per kg of TNT. Do the math.


Brahmos warhead has a much better explosive packing efficency , uses HEMEX and some other stuff. Has a higher VOD and blast performance than any other material DRDO has ever produced for a warhead.

And this isn't even the latest. A better warhead is already in service .
Can you prove that brahmos uses a better warhead?

Warhead used along with SPICE is not known.
 

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Here you go folks
The bomb used in balakot only had 80kg of explosives
Rest was hardened casing to aid penetration
That's what I was saying . If you want to hit a hardened or buried sub terranean facility , you have to use the penetrator variant of Spice 2000.
HE won't do. Brahmos has a PCB warhead. It would have penetrated the hardened armoured part and blasted inside the structure. You get the best of both worlds . With a single warhead option.

You don't have to switch between penetration or HE like in case of Paveways and Spice .

And a lot of effort has gone behind developing the unique configuration of brahmos warhead. SAAW also has a PCB option but Brahmos takes this concept to a whole new level .

The latest warheads are even better . Because it is meant to take on carriers with a near vertical hit on the deck .
 

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I don't post stupid stuff.

The entire forum is witness to your stupidity . Ti provided the link of the site from where I took 2.175 . It's fas.org .....

I have provided you enough material to connect the dots . If you fail to do so, it's your shortcoming. You are only person and probably the last person to claim that Spice 2000 is more powerful than Brahmos.

Have a great day . Or rather good night . I won't comment on this further since I have already made my point .

PS- If you ever get a chance , do visit an IAF TRS-1455 radar station or similar ASR radar station. I myself don't have the fortune but a classmate in college who was in NCC had the goods fortune of visiting a radar station near Kalaikunda AFS.

The entire complex or rather from where they control stuff and perform GCI is sub terranean. Bond level stuff. A Spice 2000 with a direct hit won't be able to do zilch here. A Brahmos will penetrate through the layers of earth and RCc and do it's magic .

I rest my case.
And I have provided links from Caltech and DRDO. You are just bullshitting now because you have been proven wrong.
 

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Never claimed it does.

I made a few assumptions and did calculations. The assumption was entire warhead contains explosives. You on the other hand, were such a huge moron, who didn't even know the value of TNT equivalent, and was arguing without having a point.

Now it seems that in this post you have accepted that 1 kg of TNT produces 4.2 million joules of energy? Finally bulb lighted in your tiny head?

And as I told you, SPICE has a different variant which can destroy buildings too. The version used in Balakot, deliberately leaves the structure intact. Why is this so hard to understand?
I have already provided detailed calculations. Even provided step by step figures. Even by taking 4.2 million joules , the results don't change .

Warhead size doesn't matter. KE matters . The explosive formulation used matters . Dentex and Torpex behave differently to standard TNT . HEMEX is different. Blast performace, velocity of detonation which has a direct relation to pressure buildup witjin the structure matters .

Had Brahmos been used, the facility would have been demolished. And Pakis would have taken 90+ days or even more to build a new structure and open it to the mango public .

Brahmos wouldn't have created a few holes on the roof of the structure. Brahmos would have reduced it to rubbles .
 

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And I have provided links from Caltech and DRDO. You are just bullshitting now because you have been proven wrong.
What links did you provide ?

It's you who is Bullshitting . You have provided link which shows 4.16 million joules as the value of 1 kg of TNT .

I am already considering 4.2 million joules in my subsequent calculations and posts . Not 2.175 from dad.org .
 

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I have already provided detailed calculations. Even provided step by step figures. Even by taking 4.2 million joules , the results don't change .

Warhead size doesn't matter. KE matters . The explosive formulation used matters . Dentex and Torpex behave differently to standard TNT . HEMEX is different. Blast performace, velocity of detonation which has a direct relation to pressure buildup witjin the structure matters .

Had Brahmos been used, the facility would have been demolished. And Pakis would have taken 90+ days or even more to build a new structure and open it to the mango public .

Brahmos wouldn't have created a few holes on the roof of the structure. Brahmos would have reduced it to rubbles .
Maalik repeating this for the third time. SPICE has a building destroyer version too. We deliberately did not use it during balakot.

Padh lo bhai
 

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What links did you provide ?

It's you who is Bullshitting . You have provided link which shows 4.16 million joules as the value of 1 kg of TNT .

I am already considering 4.2 million joules in my subsequent calculations and posts . Not 2.175 from dad.org .
Read post #2455. It contains links from DRDO and caltech.
 

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