Bluffer's Guide: China

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4. Anti-Stealth and countermeasures

China employs a range of "anti-stealth" and similar 'asymmetrical' air-defenses. These not only attempt to target stealth aircraft but also to shoot down or prevent cruise missile and precision guided weapons attack. Foremost among these in my opinion are the anti-satellite program ("Space Denial"). These can disrupt/prevent GPS and spy satellites thus drastically improving the PLAs chances in any scenario with US. Also, because satellites are unmanned shooting them down is politically lightweight in times of limited warfare.

The main anti-satellite weapon of PLA is a ground based ASAT missile called KS-19 by western observers. The missile resembles a ballistic missile and is possibly based on the DF-21 or DF-25 missiles. The weapon was successfully tested in 2007 shooting down a satellite at over 500km altitude



Another anti-satellite weapon that China is reported to employ is a very powerful laser. The US complained that China was dazzling their spy satellites with lasers – it's only a question of ramping up the power and dazzling becomes destroying. The laser is probably not mobile.
Both of the above systems appear relevant should China develop anti-ballistic missile weaponry also.

Closer to earth, China uses long wavelength radars which are probably able to detect stealth aircraft in some conditions, although they are not fine enough to use for engagement by missiles. Another potential 'anti-stealth' system are the passive detection systems which appear to be deployed with HQ-9 SAM batteries. The main noted type is the DWL002 although similar but distinct trailer mounted systems are also in service.



On a cheaper front there's the Bodyguard system designed to detect laser designators and dazzle them (another explanation is that they emit duplicate laser strobes to confuse the incoming weapon).



Air defense is also a role for the People's Armed Police (PAP) and they conduct demonstrations of ciovic defense employing various countermeasures and even AAA. Among the curious systems employed is this MRLS, the exact role and effectiveness of which is open to question.

 

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5. Beijing defenses

Beijing is the capital of China.


The remains of two belts of HQ-2 sites (The new "Great wall") left over from the cold war remain active:


The defenses were modernized with S-300PMU SAMs in the 1990s.


Those were in turn partly replaced by the more capable S-300PMU-1s when they became available and now HQ-9 is also deployed.





Forgetting the old HQ-2s for a moment, the combined air-defense picture looks like this:
 

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6. Shanghai defenses

Until the S-300 PMU-2s are deployed Shanghai is probably the best defended city in China.




The defenses were overhauled in about 2005:







Shanghai also has a belt of AAA sites on the north side. Curiously these do not appear elsewhere. (Note: AAA sites in China are damn hard to find. These locations come courtesy of Top81.net. There could be many more sites maybe all over Shanghai buy I can't find any others).

 

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7. Taiwan Straight defenses

China caused quite a commotion by deploying the S-300 PMU-1s across from Taiwan. If they deploy PMU-2 missiles with their 195km range then the whole island will be within PLA SAM coverage.

What's curious is that there appears to be gaps in the East coast air-defenses. It may be simply that Google Earth has more SAM sites yet to be discovered, but the implication is that China is not so concerned about Taiwanese counter-attacks.



Dianqian (Xiamen) has a lot of AAA sites. The islands nearby are under Taiwanese control including the one labelled "Missile Bases".





Also in the straights, the Taiwanese territory of Matsu Islands is also defended and heavily militarized:
 

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8. Hong Kong defenses

A British territory until 1997, Hong Kong has not been heavily defended. It was not previously overlooked by HQ-2 sites as far as I can tell. Recently an HQ-9 site has been built on reclaimed land on the mainland side, covering the whole island although the mountainous island itself disrupts the arc of to medium altitude. Putting SAM sites in valleys is generally not a good thing militarily speaking.

 

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I missed the HQ-16. No such system has been confirmed but the ship-based version is believed to be fitted to the Type-054A frigates. Probably a close relative to the Russian SA-17 "Grizzly" system but vertical launched and possibly using the 9M317ME missile. The missile is about the same size as the HQ-9 but being hot-launched would have a shorter missile container. A truck with suspected HQ-16 tubes was photographed. A basic 8-wheel truck can comfortably mount 6 (3 wide by 2 high) of missiles so a TEL is likely to carry six missiles. The missiles are semi-active radar homing and would have a range of about 50km (similar to HQ-12).


 

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A bit late for an 'update' but wanted to add this footnote for completeness. Since writing the essay Sean O'Connor (http://geimint.blogspot.com/2007/12/...-analysis.html) has discovered that China is also replacing some HQ-2 sites with HQ-6D. It is likely a cheaper alternative to the HQ-9 & HQ-12 albeit less capable.

The evidence is found around Chengdu where the first (empty) HQ-6 site was identified (white triangle). Now at least two of the HQ-2 sites in the area have been rebuilt as HQ-6D (yellow triangles) and it seems probable that the remaining 2 (red triangles) have too (imagery not updated).



 

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Forgetting the old HQ-2s for a moment, the combined air-defense picture looks like this:



ATV and K15/K4 task has to penetrate this in worse case situation. BTW i must say Chines are smart.
We too have S300. :cool2:
 

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K15?? the sub launch missile??

have you mounted the nuclear engine in your nuclear sub yet? not trying to be funny just really dont know....and what is k4?
 

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K15?? the sub launch missile??

have you mounted the nuclear engine in your nuclear sub yet? not trying to be funny just really dont know

....and what is k4?
Just like Chinese, Indian Gov is too secretive there is not much info..

K15 and K4 are Submarine launched Ballistic Missiles and there purpose is to penetrate those defense mainly..
 

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actually the only main target for our HQs is the US air force and the only worry is also the US...in the mission to kill bin laden the US penetrated the heavily guarded pakistani city very easily....weapons and the whole air defence system the pakistanis r using have many similar elements that can be observed in prc so a lot have to be done in the near future...

besides the real job is to defend ICBM attacks...which cant rely on HQs....
 

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Bluffer's Guide: Chinese Naval Power

Amateur web research. All drawings by me unless otherwise stated. This is not intended to be authoritative or exhaustive



PART 1

I've been compiling this for some time, on and off, and it's just such a massive topic I cannot do all the illustrations I'd like or publish in one go. I figured I had to put it down now or I'll never finish it – some of the illustrations are years old already – and follow up with Part 2 later. Part 2 will include major warships (AEGIS comparison etc) and how China could invade Taiwan.

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INTRO: The Chinese navy, more properly known as PLAN (People's Liberation Army Navy), is among the world's largest and most powerful, but suffers from the stigma of a legacy of outdated designs and limited training and employment. There are clear signs of this changing and the latest Chinese combatants, both indigenous and imported, closely match Western equivalents in several areas. What sets the PLAN apart from Western navies, and causes so much controversy, is the rate at which it's updating and expanding its capability.

Contents:
1. PLAN carrier program
2. Nuclear deterrence
3. Submarines
4. Missile boat menace
 

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1. PLAN Carrier Program

Spearheading the Chinese carrier program is the single 'Varyag class' carrier obtained, unfinished, from the former USSR. The Chinese service name for the Varyag has yet to be confirmed. Varyag is a Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier (more properly Project 1143.5, but I prefer the now old NATO reporting name of Kremlin Class).



Although Varyag is undoubtedly an aircraft carrier, it is not designed to operate in the same manner as American carrier battle groups – it is designed around Soviet doctrine and can better be described as an aircraft carrying cruiser, escorting offensive assets, rather than the centre of the task force itself. Therefore the Varyag was intended to field an air-superiority (Su-33 Flankers) and anti-submarine (Ka-28 Helix) focused wing, rather than the multi-role/strike focused US air wings of today. People often debate why the Soviets' chose that path, but the fact remains that Varyag was not designed to operate in the Western CV mold. At any rate budget is probably the biggest factor affecting the Russian air-wing since the collapse of USSR, and finally Russia shows signs of changing this doctrine.

But this essay is about China not Russia; in Chinese service I expect her to operate more like a Western carrier with a general purpose air wing, generally similar to France's Charles De Gaulle in overall throw-weight. Evidence from the training facilities now taking shape in Wuhan, China, suggest that the heavy anti-ship cruise missiles, located in VLS on the forward deck at the base of the ski-jump, will not be retained (at any rate China was unlikely to purchase the Russian Granit (SS-N-19) cruise missiles). Similarly the Flankers onboard, notionally Su-33s but possibly a local derivative, are shown with YJ-83 anti-ship missiles unlike their purely anti-air equipped Russian counterparts.

The deck-plan and flight operations of the Varyag are likely to remain as per those of the Russian sister ship, with a ski-jump on the bow to assist takeoff (no catapults) and three take-off positions, as shown below. There are two deck-edge lifts (green) and a regular angled landing strip:



Varyag is likely to be commissioned in late 2010 or 2011, and enter service in 2012-13 timeframe. This is painfully slow for some observers but quite reasonable for PLAN. In the meantime PLAN is ramping up training to prepare, including the innovative full size deck mock-up complete with island at the 701st Institute in Wuhan. This most likely intended for deck handling practice and establishment of deck routines.



 

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Future Carriers

Reports and speculation abound of the indigenous carrier program, with at least one hull reportedly laid. Separating credible reports from fanciful speculation can be difficult, with ideas ranging from amphibious carriers to full blown CVNs. I'd expect the carriers to be similar in size to Varyag and possibly using a catapult launching system (China has the technology from their experience with the Australian carrier HMAS Melbourne). A mixed fleet of ski-jump (STOBAR) and catapult equipped (CATOBAR) carriers would be a training issue, but that does not rule this out.
 

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