Avalanche buries Pakistani soldiers near Siachen

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I so much wish that the neighbor's freshly cooked story were true.
Wouldn't it be awesome to sweep PA out just like that, without a bullet fired, without a border post crossed. Indian advanced weather manipulation technology to cause Avalanche .. seriously? :D

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Dude do not bring RSS into the equation. Its a tired and tested formula by people like yourself to suddenly change the topic and try to detract the attention from a very obvious flaw in your own assertion.

No one told you that you were mistaken. You told people they were mistaken.
I think I have already figured you out. Pity I thought you were a intelligent poster on here. Please come out of the cave.
Get back to topic. We already are back on topic. Also, you have the option of not debating with people you think are not intelligent. It is very simple.
 

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I think CIA, RAW, MOSSAD has hand in this Avalanche:rofl: Pakistan news paper would say now.

But on Humanitarian ground, I pray god may they R.I.P. and may god give strength to their families withstanding this situation, we should respect every human because this is what separate ourselves from others.
 

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Well lets hope that this goads the authorities on both sides to come on a mutually acceptable solution.This incident reinforces the fact ,that man is still puny compared to nature and there are better ways to use troops than deployment .
 

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This is very sad news, and I feel all the more sorry now that I know that the soldiers were from the 6th Northern Light Infantry battalion, who are mainly from the Gilgit-Baltistan region, a region that has strong pro-India and anti-Pakistan sentiments. The NLI suffered much during Kargil War and Pakistan refusing to acknowledge NLI contributions and PoWs caused a lot of resentment among the residents of Gilgit-Baltistan against Pakistan and Pakistan Army.

These soldiers of NLI are potential allies of India, should another Indo-Pak War start. The NLI soldiers know very well that they are cheap cannon fodder in case of war with India while their bosses treat them as mere expendables. I would encourage those that were celebrating their deaths, to think in more pragmatic terms, even if they don't genuinely feel sorry for the dead.

References:
Names of persons buried under snow slide in Gayari sector near Skardu. | Current News World Web Source for News and Information
Continuing turmoil in Gilgit-Baltistan
 

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PM, you are kidding yourself. NLI is there because they are loyal to Pak. They are not potential allies till they revolt against the attrocities against the Pak Army for its repression in Gilgit.
 

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Maitra...please tell me you were kidding.

You talk like thee deluded Pakistanis boasting about the Sikh regiment being among their potential allies in a war against India.

And there are more than enough Panjabis in NLI too.
 

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PM, you are kidding yourself. NLI is there because they are loyal to Pak. They are not potential allies till they revolt against the attrocities against the Pak Army for its repression in Gilgit.
They will revolt the moment they see India growing a spine and marching into PoK and Gilgit-Baltistan. Mark my words. There are many politicians from GB who have sent out feelers to India. The NLI soldiers' accounts of the Kargil War, lack of supplies, Pakistan refusal to take back PoWs from India, etc., actually caused a lot of resentment among the people of Gilgit-Baltistan and that anger was not against India, but against Pakistan. I hope you knew these.

If you think I am kidding myself, then you are grossly mistaken.

Maitra...please tell me you were kidding.

You talk like thee deluded Pakistanis boasting about the Sikh regiment being among their potential allies in a war against India.

And there are more than enough Panjabis in NLI too.
I can assure you I am not kidding.

If you think I am deluded, that's fine by me.

Now Yusuf and Karthic, please, don't kid yourselves, and stay in touch with reality:



:thumb:
 

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NLI is composed of Gilgitis, Baltis, Brushos, Wakhis and Khowars. They are composed of eight major ethnic groups: the Baltees, Shins, Yashkuns, Mughals, Kashmiris, Pathans, Ladakis and Turks. The language spoken by these people are dialects of Balti, Shina, Brushaki, Khawer, Wakhi, Turki, Pushto, Urdu and Persian.

49 per cent are Shias and 18 per cent Sunnis, while the Ismailees and Noor Bakhshis make up 23 and 10 per cent respectively. Fifty-five per cent of the sepoys come from Gilgit while 35 per cent hail from Baltistan.

The Northern Light Infantry Regiment was formed in 1971 when several Scout units -- some of which had British-era origins and others which were more recent -- were consolidated.

In 1985, four battalions were raised for deployment in the Siachen Glacier.

They were paramilitary force under FCNA (Force Commander, Northern Area).

It was after the Kargil War, were they converted to regular Army.

In the Kargil War, most of the officers who led the NLI battalions were from other regiments.

It is also true that after the Kargil War, Pakistan claimed the bodies of Sunnis and not the Shias.

Indicates the faith they have or had in the Shias and people of the Northern Area.
 

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Pakistan Army has got Baluch regiments too And Sindhis are also present in the Pak army

So unless there is a free for all in Pakistan and Pak army is UNABLE to control the situation
these SIndhi Baluch and Shia soldiers will NOT rebel

They are just biding their time

For Pak army the ONLY priority is to maintain friendship with Pashtoons

If Pashtoons of Pak Army rebel ; then it is game over
 

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I am late in the thread, but how many of you think that the numbers told by pakis are right? I think it is a number pulled of the hat. They are born liars, I am worried that soon our siklar media will be running amock with story to bring back soldiers from there, as paki birathers have been dead
 

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Pakistan Army has got Baluch regiments too And Sindhis are also present in the Pak army

So unless there is a free for all in Pakistan and Pak army is UNABLE to control the situation
these SIndhi Baluch and Shia soldiers will NOT rebel

They are just biding their time

For Pak army the ONLY priority is to maintain friendship with Pashtoons

If Pashtoons of Pak Army rebel ; then it is game over
There is resentment among many sections of Pakistanis, and people in the Pakistani Army hail from these sections as well.

Just wait, a time will come when parts of Pakistani Army will ally with India. Let us not forget the Mukti-Bahini. Not all of them were villagers and commoners. Many of them were soldiers in the Pakistani Army who defected and joined Mukti-Bahini. Let us not forget General Muhammad Ataul Ghani Osmani, formerly in Pakistani Army, but later joined the Mukti-Bahini.

If I were in charge of events, I'd already start planting seeds of discontent and try to get these NLI soldiers to revolt and create sabotage all over, and then slice through Northern Pakistan isolating Gilgit-Baltistan from the rest of the country. It is my firm belief that the entire NLI will be easily convinced to join the Indian side.

Why take on a large enemy, when you can break it into pieces and destroy each of these pieces? Now, if each of these pieces is an enemy, either fight him, or destroy that enemy by making him a friend. As simple as that.

Realpolitik!

Or perhaps I am placing too much trust on these GB people? Perhaps I am deluded? Who cares? My beliefs are mine after all.
 

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I am late in the thread, but how many of you think that the numbers told by pakis are right? I think it is a number pulled of the hat. They are born liars, I am worried that soon our siklar media will be running amock with story to bring back soldiers from there, as paki birathers have been dead
true as far as i know it was a camp full of pigs. where burfani tota stuck

I here by declare all those pigs has expired and met 72 virgin eunuch as promised....
 

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Gotto admire US atleast in this one respect....when they are much abused in Pak still they are ready to help Pak, when their all-weather,chaddi-buddy Chiina could not care less.
 

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^^

This is also an opportunity for the US to get a closer feel of GB, do a recce while doing rescue work and gather more information about the terrain, Pakistan's military installations, the mood of the locals and to gauge whatever PLA is doing there.
 

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I still wonder though, why there were so many of them gathered in one place? I am not familiar with military deployments so I do not know if this is routine, but knowing the Pakis, can't help but think that perhaps they were planning some major for the coming spring/summer to

a) Boost their own moral

b) Divert attention from all the uncomfortable questions that are being asked of the all powerful army

c) Nothing unites that sorry excuse of a country than anti-India rhetoric.
 

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