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Evidence of Outward Migration



"We anticipate that the analysed remains from Mesopotamia belonged to people with genetic affinity to the Indian subcontinent since the distribution of identified ancient haplotypes indicates solid link with populations from the region of South Asia-Tibet (Trans-Himalaya). "

This paper , they basically found some skeletons skeletons in syria belonging to the roman period . When they analyzed the skeletons they found that the genetic content in those skeletons is related to northern Indian population . Very interesting piece of work ovar here . Prof. Subhash Kak talks about the drying up of the Saraswati river and the study concludes that led to an OUTWARD MIGRATION from India .
 

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Evidence of Outward Migration



"We anticipate that the analysed remains from Mesopotamia belonged to people with genetic affinity to the Indian subcontinent since the distribution of identified ancient haplotypes indicates solid link with populations from the region of South Asia-Tibet (Trans-Himalaya). "

This paper , they basically found some skeletons skeletons in syria belonging to the roman period . When they analyzed the skeletons they found that the genetic content in those skeletons is related to northern Indian population . Very interesting piece of work ovar here . Prof. Subhash Kak talks about the drying up of the Saraswati river and the study concludes that led to an OUTWARD MIGRATION from India .
Oh so there were 2 civilizations one saraswati and another indus valley.
 

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How many steppyniggrs ?


People take a look at this ;)



Observed gene proportions determined by the size of past migration indicates directionality

  • Premendra Priyadarshi, Consultant, North Cumbria University Hospital, Carlisle, UK
  • Other Contributors:
    • Sudarshan T Nadathur, Fellow, Infinity Foundation India, India
    • Murali K Vadivelu, Member, St John's College, University of Cambridge, Cambridge CB2 1TP

(17 September 2018)

If m be the proportion of migrants in an admixed population, 1-m is the proportion of hosts. Let the frequency of migrant genes be qm among the migrants and q0 among the hosts, before the admixture. The proportion of the migrant genes (q1) in a population thus corresponds directly to the level of migration that then formed the admixed population. The frequency of the migrant genes in the admixed population, q1, will be q1 = m(qm - q0) + q0. (1)
From Fig. 3 of de Barros Damgaard et al., it can be inferred that the proportion of Namazga+SteppeMLBA migrant genes (qm = 1.0) is about 0.6–0.8 (q1). (2) This will mean an m of 0.6–0.8. To achieve this proportion of migrants in the admixed population, the number of migrants to have arrived must be at least 1.5–4.0 times the size of the host population [South Indian (S. Indian), q0 = 0]. If the migrant genes are unique markers, as it is presumed in the analysis by the authors, it cannot be and should not be present in the host population, that is q0 > 0 cannot be claimed to obviate the arithmetical reality demonstrated here, as that would mean that the migration hypothesis falls flat. If q0 > 0, it can only indicate that the two supposedly unique populations are not unique but descendants of the same parent population. In the latter case the varying qm and q0, if they varied at all, will be explained by genetic drift alone.



This is one of the rebuttal paper by doctor Premendra Priyadarshi . So what they did was something very very interesting , they worked the mathematics they said lets work the mathematical model and figure out if ait cucks are claming that thars so much of percentage of central asian dna content in the present Indians, lets work backwards and find out how many naked subhuman steppyniggers came to India so that genetically they would overwhelm the existing population and give these numbers . The study concluded that thar must have come upto 4 times immigrants (steppyniggrs) in India . To give you an idea , Saraswati Civilization supported between 2 million to 5 million as per estimates of how much her population was. Upper end you multiply by 4 so it gives us 20 FUCKING MILLION steppy niggrs needed to come (which they never did) from central asia to overwhelm us all genetically so that current population hav the genetic content with the claimed percentage these migration larpist like to whine about kek.

That being said folks , there are NO ARCHAEOLOGICAL, UNDISPUTED LITERARY EVIDENCES OR HARD SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCES , from fields such as palaeoclimatology, to suggest that a cold and arid deserted shithole aka steppy, ever supported such a huge population that in turn migrated to numerically overwhelm a densely populated and a far advanced Saraswati civilization(most advanced of her time) civilisation in a temperate-to-tropical South Asia.
Now these ait cucks cant find any sort of evidence of 20 million so they converted thar fucking delusional whines saying no it was not invasion it was migration , no it was not migration it was tourism of a bunch of homo ass cattlerapist steppyniggrs LMFAO !!!
 
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The Genographic Project Confirms Humans Migrated Out of Africa through arabia

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The most sophisticated method of study for the purpose of finding out the Out of Africa route was adopted by the Genographic Project which was funded by IBM, the computer giant. The method was so refined that it could map each step of a thousand mile journey. This method was the most accurate also. It produced the following map of the routes of human migration.


Their press release said, “Over the past six years, we’ve had the opportunity to gather and analyze genetic data around the world at a scale and level of detail that has never been done before. When we started, our goal was to bring science expeditions into the modern era to further a deeper understanding of human roots and diversity. With evidence that the genetic diversity in southern India is closer to Africa than that of europe, this suggests that other fields of research such as archaeology and anthropology should look for additional evidence on the migration route of early humans to further explore this theory.”

This good advice was ignored by majority of ait larpers, however.

See - https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/35877.wss

An article was published on the basis of this study which said in its Abstract, “We also observe that the patterns of recombinational diversity of these populations correlate with distance out of Africa if that distance is measured along a path crossing South Arabia. No such correlation is found through a Sinai route, suggesting that anatomically modern humans first left Africa through the Bab-el-Mandeb strait rather than through present Egypt.”

See - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21890475/

The article further noted, in the context of the other method based on SNPs, “And the two approaches may reflect processes taking place in different time frames with the recombination-based analysis being more sensitive to more recent events.” Thus the migrations taking place during the last 10,000 years, particularly the Indo-european migrations can be best described by the migration routes described by the Genographic Project’s study. Thus it is settled that there was only one route out of Africa and people using the Arabian coast reached India to expand further.

See -https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/29/1/25/1749992

However an obsession to stick to thar untenable position of the Egyptian route to europe, West Asia and Central Asia, kept certain ait cucks like david reich continuously making mistakes after mistakes in analysing the data emerging from all the later studies.


This research paper actually has the following words written :
“The perennial concept of people, language, and agriculture arriving to India together through the northwest corridor does not hold up to close scrutiny. Recent claims for a linkage of haplogroups J2, L, R1a, and R2 with a contemporaneous origin for the majority of the Indian castes’ paternal lineages from outside the subcontinent are rejected, although our findings do support a local origin of haplogroups F* and H.” They also rule out arrivals from Southwest Asia because West Asian haplogroups (like Y-Hg G) are not found in India.

See - https://www.pnas.org/content/103/4/843.full


Kivisild’s findings too had shown that humans could not have arrived from West Asia into India because of lack of West Asian Y-hgs E, G, I, J* and J2f in India. Kivisild et al wrote, “When compared with european and Middle Eastern populations , Indians (i) share with them clades J2 and M173 derived sister groups R1b and R1a, the latter of which is particularly frequent in India; and (ii) lack or show a marginal frequency of clades E, G, I, J*, and J2f.”



At the end it is useful to add that often statements by great authors are best not forgotten. Western Eurasia was formed of populations migrating from Asia and during recent Neolithic times from Africa. Hence if plotted, european genes cannot form any cline towards Asia or Africa, while African and Asian genes will always show clinal pattern of expansion into europe.

The seminal words of Cavalli-Sforza remain valid even today, “…both Africans and Asians contributed to the settlement of europe, which began about 40,000 years ago. It seems very reasonable to assume that both continents nearest to europe contributed to its settlement, even if perhaps at different times and maybe repeatedly. It is reassuring that the analysis of other markers also consistently gives the same results in this case. Moreover, a specific evolutionary model tested, i.e., that Europe is formed by contributions from Asia and Africa, fits the distance matrix perfectly (6). In this simplified model, the migrations postulated to have populated Europe are estimated to have occurred at an early date (30,000 years ago), but it is impossible to distinguish, on the basis of these data, this model from that of several migrations at different times. The overall contributions from Asia and Africa were estimated to be around two-thirds and one-third, respectively”.

See - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC33682/

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The Genographic Project Confirms Humans Migrated Out of Africa through arabia

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The most sophisticated method of study for the purpose of finding out the Out of Africa route was adopted by the Genographic Project which was funded by IBM, the computer giant. The method was so refined that it could map each step of a thousand mile journey. This method was the most accurate also. It produced the following map of the routes of human migration.


Their press release said, “Over the past six years, we’ve had the opportunity to gather and analyze genetic data around the world at a scale and level of detail that has never been done before. When we started, our goal was to bring science expeditions into the modern era to further a deeper understanding of human roots and diversity. With evidence that the genetic diversity in southern India is closer to Africa than that of europe, this suggests that other fields of research such as archaeology and anthropology should look for additional evidence on the migration route of early humans to further explore this theory.”

This good advice was ignored by majority of ait larpers, however.

See - https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/35877.wss

An article was published on the basis of this study which said in its Abstract, “We also observe that the patterns of recombinational diversity of these populations correlate with distance out of Africa if that distance is measured along a path crossing South Arabia. No such correlation is found through a Sinai route, suggesting that anatomically modern humans first left Africa through the Bab-el-Mandeb strait rather than through present Egypt.”

See - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21890475/

The article further noted, in the context of the other method based on SNPs, “And the two approaches may reflect processes taking place in different time frames with the recombination-based analysis being more sensitive to more recent events.” Thus the migrations taking place during the last 10,000 years, particularly the Indo-european migrations can be best described by the migration routes described by the Genographic Project’s study. Thus it is settled that there was only one route out of Africa and people using the Arabian coast reached India to expand further.

See -https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/29/1/25/1749992

However an obsession to stick to thar untenable position of the Egyptian route to europe, West Asia and Central Asia, kept certain ait cucks like david reich continuously making mistakes after mistakes in analysing the data emerging from all the later studies.


This research paper actually has the following words written :
“The perennial concept of people, language, and agriculture arriving to India together through the northwest corridor does not hold up to close scrutiny. Recent claims for a linkage of haplogroups J2, L, R1a, and R2 with a contemporaneous origin for the majority of the Indian castes’ paternal lineages from outside the subcontinent are rejected, although our findings do support a local origin of haplogroups F* and H.” They also rule out arrivals from Southwest Asia because West Asian haplogroups (like Y-Hg G) are not found in India.

See - https://www.pnas.org/content/103/4/843.full


Kivisild’s findings too had shown that humans could not have arrived from West Asia into India because of lack of West Asian Y-hgs E, G, I, J* and J2f in India. Kivisild et al wrote, “When compared with european and Middle Eastern populations , Indians (i) share with them clades J2 and M173 derived sister groups R1b and R1a, the latter of which is particularly frequent in India; and (ii) lack or show a marginal frequency of clades E, G, I, J*, and J2f.”



At the end it is useful to add that often statements by great authors are best not forgotten. Western Eurasia was formed of populations migrating from Asia and during recent Neolithic times from Africa. Hence if plotted, european genes cannot form any cline towards Asia or Africa, while African and Asian genes will always show clinal pattern of expansion into europe.

The seminal words of Cavalli-Sforza remain valid even today, “…both Africans and Asians contributed to the settlement of europe, which began about 40,000 years ago. It seems very reasonable to assume that both continents nearest to europe contributed to its settlement, even if perhaps at different times and maybe repeatedly. It is reassuring that the analysis of other markers also consistently gives the same results in this case. Moreover, a specific evolutionary model tested, i.e., that Europe is formed by contributions from Asia and Africa, fits the distance matrix perfectly (6). In this simplified model, the migrations postulated to have populated Europe are estimated to have occurred at an early date (30,000 years ago), but it is impossible to distinguish, on the basis of these data, this model from that of several migrations at different times. The overall contributions from Asia and Africa were estimated to be around two-thirds and one-third, respectively”.

See - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC33682/

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Good that it got posted twice, this will help it get into the minds of AIT larpers.
 

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Eurofags haplogroups are not unique

The ancient DNA (aDNA) studies show that the population of europe had been replaced by people arriving there from East Asia, Caucasus, West Asia and Iran during the Holocene. The original hunter-gatherer population of europe became almost extinct except in some warmer regions like Iberian Peninsula (a fraction of people of Spain). People arrived in europe starting about 7000 bce, but mainly after 5500 bce. The most of the modern population of europe came there from Asia between 5000 and 4000 BC. However, many continued to arrive even up to 1000 BC. This is in nutshell the peopling of modern europe as derived from ancient DNA studies .

Thus, today’s european or Western eurasian haplogroups are not european in origin but are in fact Asian in origin; and the european or Western european gene or haplogroup is a misnomer and now needs to be discarded.

See - https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14317

See - https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/32/12/3132/2579339

See - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235637937_Ancient_DNA_Reveals_Prehistoric_GeneFlow_from_Siberia_in_the_Complex_Human_Population_History_of_North_East_Europe

See - https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14507

See - https://www.nature.com/articles/nature17993
 
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On various branches of r1a1 :



This research paper concludes“Importantly, the virtual absence of M458 chromosomes outside europe speaks against substantial patrilineal gene flow from East europe to Asia, including to India, at least since the mid-Holocene.” . The R1a-M458 is the european branch of R1a1. Had people come from East europe like Ukraine etc moved to India this branch must have come to India. But it did not happen. It is not found in India today

The fuss created by some people about two different branches of R1a Y-DNA , one Indian and one european–can now be sorted out by means of the ancient DNAs, and there is no room for speculation. The Indian branch of R1a, i.e. R1a-Z93 is exclusive of India, porkystan and afghanistan. It originated in India and migrated through the pamir route during the Bronze Age to Altai region and even to sintashta (Ukraine), the Cradle of Western Indo-european culture.
 

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On origins of r1a1

Several researchers pointed out on the basis of the further analysis that this male lineage of DNA known as R1a1 had not arrived from outside but was indigenous to India These researches also noted the formidable presence of this DNA (R1a1) in the dravidian speaking South Indians as well as the austro-asiatic speaking tribal groups. In fact this DNA had migrated to Southeast Asia also from where it even reached Madagascar.

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This research paper further examined this DNA and found that the oldest haplotypes of the DNA was present in India and it expanded from India (Saraswati region) to Central Asia and then to europe as well as Mongolia . Underhill was able to identify two branches within this lineage with the help of two markers. One branch identified by the marker M434 was distributed in West Asia and it also migrated into arabia. The other branch was identified by the marker M458 and it was restricted to europe with a particularly high concentration in East europe like ukraine.

See - https://www.researchgate.net/public...and_Asian_Y_chromosomes_within_haplogroup_R1a

However not a single person belonging to this branch could be found in India. Thus this study rulesout any migration from Ukraine or from the adjoining steppy to India or to any other part of Asia. “Importantly, the virtual absence of M458 chromosomes outside Europe speaks against substantial patrilineal gene flow from East Europe to Asia, including to India, at least since the mid-Holocene.”
 

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1. What is the exact place and time of our origin?
2. How some of us are dark and fair skinned?
3. Are iranians descendants of Indians?
4. How far our haplogroup reached is it even present in West Asia?
Skin colour has to do with mutations due to Living in colder climate in northern hemisphere , less sunlight + naturual selection. You can see it in colour eyes variety among people and blonde , red hair most prevalent among Europeans . most studies published here are just pseudo science and fake history by Charlton's and people suffering from inferiority complex.
 

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Skin colour has to do with mutations due to Living in colder climate in northern hemisphere , less sunlight + naturual selection. You can see it in colour eyes variety among people and blonde , red hair most prevalent among Europeans . most studies published here are just pseudo science and fake history by Charlton's and people suffering from inferiority complex.
Don't you have any other way to counter except name calling fake pseudo science bla bla. Can you counter them with facts? Can't then shut the fuck up. People like you just suck to whatever some white guy say. White guy said it some it must be true naa.
 
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On finer details of r1a1

This is pretty interesting folks.

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This research paper shows us details about the branches of the R1a1 lineage. They noted that the M458, earlier identified by underhill, and another branch Z280 were found in europe, whereas the branch Z93 had split from the main trunk in India. Thus it became clear that the main trunk M198, gave birth to branch Z93 in India from where it spread to Uzbekistan and Mongolia, as well as to Southeast Asia . Some members of this Indian branch Z93 also reached up to Hungary independently of any Roma migration . This means Indians certainly migrated to Mongolia, Central Asia and Hungary after the birth of this branch. And of course they could have migrated before the birth of this lineage in the earlier eras.

The distribution of Indian R1a-Z93 indicating its origin in India nad migration through the Pamir to Tarim Basin and Altai, and from there to the steppy.

The european branches of R1a1 namely M458 and Z280 originated while the main trunk was passing through the Caucasus region and the steppy.. Then the whole group of people moved forward into europe through the North Black Sea region. Hence we get M458 and also Z280 in the steppe, East europe and Central europe but not in India . “Inner and Central Asia seem to be the overlap zones for the R1a1-Z280 and R1a1-Z93 chromosomes as both forms were observed at low frequencies.”

See - https://www.researchgate.net/public...hylogenetic_resolution_within_haplogroup_R1a1

This is because the Indian branch Z93 also migrated into Central Asia along with its parent main trunk M198. But the European branches found in Central Asia and the steppy never came to India. It is big evidence which clarifies the direction of human movement. Hence the Indian branch can be found today in Mongolia, Central Asia and even in Hungary today. But the European branches (M458 and Z280) cannot be found in India. This finding irrefutably fixes the direction of migration as to be from India to Europe, and leaves no room to any further argument in the matter.
 

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most studies published here are just pseudo science and fake history by Charlton's and people suffering from inferiority complex.
Even the author of cell paper 2019 rakhigari , the guy who is spearheading the genetics team as its HOD Neeraj Rai and Vasant Shindey ji who is also co author in that very paper spearheading archeaology team as HOD have completly rekt your delusions buddy you can keep following your d grade krantikaari patrakars :rofl::rofl::rofl:






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Btw when jaipur dialogues were called and 2 crore prize was declared none of your low kind dared to show up , I was thar and I have met with HOD OF GENETICS CELL PAPER RAKHIGARI DNA 2019 . And guess what they have concluded , the ARCHEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF INDIA HAS CONCLUDED and btfo migration larp . And who are you ? What is your authority ? You have none . Mommy basement dwellers will certainly not dictate us what is pseudo science . The only authority rests is with our hardworking geneticists and historians and archeologists of cell paper 2019 who were chosen people because of their qualifications and wisdom .
 

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Even the author of cell paper 2019 rakhigari , the guy who is spearheading the genetics team as its HOD Neeraj Rai and Vasant Shindey ji who is also co author in that very paper spearheading archeaology team as HOD have completly rekt your delusions buddy you can keep following your d grade krantikaari patrakars :rofl::rofl::rofl:






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Btw when jaipur dialogues were called and 2 crore prize was declared none of your low kind dared to show up , I was thar and I have met with HOD OF GENETICS CELL PAPER RAKHIGARI DNA 2019 . And guess what they have concluded , the ARCHEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF INDIA HAS CONCLUDED and btfo migration larp . And who are you ? What is your authority ? You have none . Mommy basement dwellers will certainly not dictate us what is pseudo science . The only authority rests is with our hardworking geneticists and historians and archeologists of cell paper 2019 who were chosen people because of their qualifications and wisdom .
Good reply to smellyfarts
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars some new DNA findings.
Balinese Y-Chromosome Perspective on the Peopling of Indonesia: Gen.
 

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On the existence of Saraswati River

This research was undertaken to study the changes in sediment provenance over time along a 300 km stretch of the Ghaggar river basin. It concluded that 9,000 to 4,500 years ago the river was perennial and was receiving sediments from the Higher and Lesser Himalayas.It is worth noting that the Rig Veda mentions Saraswati as ‘one of the seven sisters’, ‘unbroken’, ‘pure in her course from mountain to sea’, ‘breaks through the ridges of the mountains with her strong waves’. Several teerthas at its banks are also mentioned.The Nadu Sukta hymn of the Rig Veda which mentions 19 rivers starting from the Ganges, moving westward to Indus and three of its tributaries flowing from Sulaiman ranges in Afghanistan, places Saraswati between Yamuna and Sutlej.
The archaeological evidence in favour of the Saraswati river provides a serious challenge to the settled chronology based in the assumption of migration larpists

Given that the Rig Veda mentions Saraswati in full might, meeting the sea from the mountains; based on geological evidence, its composition would coincide (in the latest) with the Mature phase of the Saraswati civilization.Hence ,Rig Veda must have been composed between 9000 bce to 4500 bce. This gives a serious blow to to AIT sheeps.


Radiocarbon dating of archaeological carbonates from seven cultural stages of Dholavira, Great Rann of Kachchh (GRK), the largest excavated Harappan settlement in India, suggests the beginning of occupation at ~5500 years BP (pre‐Harappan), and continuation until ~3800 years BP (early part of the Late Harappan period). The settlement rapidly expanded under favourable monsoonal climate conditions when architectural elements such as the Citadel, Bailey, Lower and Middle Town were added between the Early and mid‐Mature Harappan periods. Abundant local mangroves grew around the GRK sustaining prolific populations of the edible gastropod Terebralia palustris. Oxygen isotope (δ18O) sclerochronology of Early Harappan gastropod shell suggests seasonal mixing of some depleted (δ18O ~ −12‰) river water in summer/monsoon months (through ancient Saraswati and/or Indus distributary channels) with seawater that periodically inundated the GRK. Evaporation from this semi‐enclosed water body during the non‐monsoon months enriched the δ18O of water/shell carbonates. The humid fluvial landscape possibly changed due to a catastrophic drought driving the final collapse of the settlement of Dholavira exactly at the onset of the Meghalayan (Late Holocene) stage (~4300–4100 years BP). Indeed, Dholavira presents a classic case for understanding how climate change can increase future drought risk as predicted by the IPCC working group. Copyright © 2019 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

Bibhu Dev Misra, in a detailed article, makes the case for a bilingual sindhu - Saraswati civilisation wherein Sanskrit was the liturgical language - the language of rituals and ceremonies while proto-Dravidian was used for other purposes - trade, transport etc.
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https://www.bibhudevmisra.com/2015/10/the-indus-valley-civilization-was-it.html

Bibhu Dev Misra argues that most of the Indians were speaking dravidian languages right to the 6th century BCE, while Sanskrit speakers who were almost always bilingual continued to conduct rituals in Sanskrit.
 
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