Aryan Invasion Theory

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All human beings from birth are free and dignity and rights are equal. Their reason and intelligence endowed with and they towards one another in a brotherhood spirit behaviour to do should.

Samasta maṇiṣa janmakāḷaru swādhīna ebaṅ marẏyādā o adhikārare samāna. Semānaṅkaṭhāre buuddhi o bibeka nihita achi ebaṅ semānaṅku paraspara prati bhrātr̥twa manobhābare byabahāra karibā ucit.

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Endogamous social stratification preexisted the Varna system. Admixture analyses supporting a West Eurasian origin of the Brahmin may be biased due to the high frequencies of R1a1-M17 shared between these populations, as the rest of their Y-chromosomal variation shows little similarity.

Moreover, the recent discovery of new markers within R1a1-M17 has allowed Eastern European Y-lineages to be differentiated from those in Central/South Asia, locating the oldest expansion times with this lineage in Indus Valley populations, suggesting an earlier, possibly autochthonous origin of this HG in South Asia.

The highest STR variances for HG R1a1-M17 observed in SC and DLF, along with the lack of population-specific clusters in the R1a1- M17 network and the failure of BATWING to generate a definitive modal tree for this HG, all argue against the introduction of these paternal haplotypes through a single wave of Brahmin (i.e. Indo-Aryan) migration into the region.

Previous studies of Indian populations have grouped and analyzed the genetic data in the light of the Hindu Varna system even though its origin and antiquity are still an ongoing topic of debate. One of the theories that has acquired wide support relates the establishment of the caste system to Indo-Aryan expansions from Western Eurasia into India around 3 Kya. An alternative view would see an earlier Indo-Aryan expansion with an introduction of cereal farming into Pakistan/North India around 8–7 kya. Genetic evidence reported by other studies that support these theories are mainly based on the high frequency of HG R1a1-M17 in Brahmin castes and their closer genetic affinity with West Eurasian populations compared to other Indian non-Brahmin castes and tribes.

 

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Can you identify who these guys are ethnically?

HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.94
2 S-Indian 27.86
3 NE-Euro 18.15
4 Caucasian 10.95
5 Mediterranean 2
6 Beringian 1.43
7 Siberian 1.12
8 American 0.5
9 SW-Asian 0.06

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 53.7
2 Baloch 37.19
3 Caucasian 4.32
4 NE-Asian 1.52
5 SE-Asian 1.2
6 SW-Asian 1.1
7 Papuan 0.45
8 American 0.4
9 Mediterranean 0.12

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.35
2 S-Indian 26.66
3 Caucasian 16.98
4 NE-Euro 10.6
5 American 2.34
6 Siberian 1.87
7 SW-Asian 1.68
8 E-African 0.19
9 Pygmy 0.18
10 Papuan 0.15

Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.54
2 S-Indian 34.25
3 NE-Euro 12.78
4 Caucasian 10.74
5 Siberian 1.91
6 SW-Asian 1.22
7 Beringian 1.09
8 American 0.77
9 NE-Asian 0.32
10 Mediterranean 0.17
11 Papuan 0.13
12 W-African 0.05
13 Pygmy 0.02
 

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Can you identify who these guys are ethnically?

HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.94
2 S-Indian 27.86
3 NE-Euro 18.15
4 Caucasian 10.95
5 Mediterranean 2
6 Beringian 1.43
7 Siberian 1.12
8 American 0.5
9 SW-Asian 0.06

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 53.7
2 Baloch 37.19
3 Caucasian 4.32
4 NE-Asian 1.52
5 SE-Asian 1.2
6 SW-Asian 1.1
7 Papuan 0.45
8 American 0.4
9 Mediterranean 0.12

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.35
2 S-Indian 26.66
3 Caucasian 16.98
4 NE-Euro 10.6
5 American 2.34
6 Siberian 1.87
7 SW-Asian 1.68
8 E-African 0.19
9 Pygmy 0.18
10 Papuan 0.15

Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.54
2 S-Indian 34.25
3 NE-Euro 12.78
4 Caucasian 10.74
5 Siberian 1.91
6 SW-Asian 1.22
7 Beringian 1.09
8 American 0.77
9 NE-Asian 0.32
10 Mediterranean 0.17
11 Papuan 0.13
12 W-African 0.05
13 Pygmy 0.02
1st - NW Indian probably a Jatt
2nd - South Indian midcaste
3rd - Khatri, Kambhoj or Arora?
4th- Broadly some biardri NW India or Pakistani can't tell the exact one though. The NW Indian members are somehow able to identify very easily.
 

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I want them too but they are costly. If they were around 450 I would have bought them but most of these go for 1000+ especially the ones by BB lal.
The cost is every bit worth the value and overwhelming level of documentations given by the best Director General of Archaeology of BHARAT. He has single handedly demolished marxshiet larps.
 

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1st - NW Indian probably a Jatt
2nd - South Indian midcaste
3rd - Khatri, Kambhoj or Arora?
4th- Broadly some biardri NW India or Pakistani can't tell the exact one though. The NW Indian members are somehow able to identify very easily.
01 Jatt
02 Andhra
03 Khatri
04 Punjabi Brahman

Eek! 100/100 in first go 😍
 

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Can you identify who these guys are ethnically?

HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.94
2 S-Indian 27.86
3 NE-Euro 18.15
4 Caucasian 10.95
5 Mediterranean 2
6 Beringian 1.43
7 Siberian 1.12
8 American 0.5
9 SW-Asian 0.06

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 53.7
2 Baloch 37.19
3 Caucasian 4.32
4 NE-Asian 1.52
5 SE-Asian 1.2
6 SW-Asian 1.1
7 Papuan 0.45
8 American 0.4
9 Mediterranean 0.12

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.35
2 S-Indian 26.66
3 Caucasian 16.98
4 NE-Euro 10.6
5 American 2.34
6 Siberian 1.87
7 SW-Asian 1.68
8 E-African 0.19
9 Pygmy 0.18
10 Papuan 0.15

Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.54
2 S-Indian 34.25
3 NE-Euro 12.78
4 Caucasian 10.74
5 Siberian 1.91
6 SW-Asian 1.22
7 Beringian 1.09
8 American 0.77
9 NE-Asian 0.32
10 Mediterranean 0.17
11 Papuan 0.13
12 W-African 0.05
13 Pygmy 0.02
I bet different Gotra within the same caste will show different variance.
 

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I bet different Gotra within the same caste will show different variance.
Yes, you are right there should be some intra population variation. We will need more samples to document this. Currently most samples are either from studies or personal samples of diaspora Indians/Pakistanis.
 

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Yes, you are right there should be some intra population variation. We will need more samples to document this. Currently most samples are either from studies or personal samples of diaspora Indians/Pakistanis.
I am from dattatreya gotra.
Rahul Gandhi is my confused cousin 😂

But on my paternal grandmothers sisters family there are many Scottish looking gingers with no memory/history of Scottish links.

I can bet there ancestry would turn out hell of a lot different from ours.
 

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Yes, you are right there should be some intra population variation. We will need more samples to document this. Currently most samples are either from studies or personal samples of diaspora Indians/Pakistanis.
Also Haplogroups analyst tend to assume a certain location as origin based on reverse derivation and prevalence of certain Haplogroups in a region.
This assumption seems a little inconsistent in several places.
 

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I am from dattatreya gotra.
Rahul Gandhi is my confused cousin 😂

But on my paternal grandmothers sisters family there are many Scottish looking gingers with no memory/history of Scottish links.

I can bet there ancestry would turn out hell of a lot different from ours.
No two Brahmin of the same region will show similar composition, no two Dalits of same region will show similar composition, no two tamil nadars of same region will show similar composition.
A dalit may have the same composition of a Brahmin and vice versa. Haplogroups are more likely to be Gotra aka tribe oriented in context of India, since similar gotra can't intemarry each other the Haplogroups get further mixed and inconsistent. Most of the time my Haplogroups composition won't match my cousin's Haplogroup.
 

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