Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

[Indo-Aryan]

The episode of Alexander’s meeting with the Gymnosophists of Taxila had so much excited the West that the theme was later on embellished by several authors and for 2,000 years the name of the Gymnosophists or naked philosophers, remained common culture of lettered men.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Regarding the wives of the Brahmanas, Alexander’s companion Near- chus had said that they were well-versed in the study of philosophy and allowed to lead even an ascetic life3. This statement is in agreement with the reality for many of the philosophical works of Ancient India are credited to women.



Wait! But we were told status of women declined in later Vedic age but this depiction is post that

 

[Indo-Aryan]

The first definite evidence of sati custom, i.e. burning of widows with their deceased husbands has come to us through the accounts of Alexander’s companions. The custom according to them existed only among certain tribes. Aristobulus observed, that the wives were glad to be burned up along with their deceased husbands and that those would not submit to iï were held in disgrace10.



But our scholars claim it was a general Indian practice

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Nicolaus Damaescanus: corroborates Diodorus in stating that the custom of Sati was a voluntary choise3 4. The custom was further mentioned by Aelian1 and Philo5. The latter had instanced this practice, in order to justify the act of Abraham, who had sacrificed his own son.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

For the types of marriages among the Indians, our information in Greek accounts come from Alexander’s companions and Megasthenes only. Three types of marriages were encountered by Alexander’s followers. Marriage with mutual consent, i.e.3 4, the Gandharva VivahcA, the winning of a bride through some ordeal, i.e.5, the Svayamvora custom and the marriage by purchase6 7, which was known as the Asura Vivaha1 in the text of Mann, and was greatly condemned. According to Aristobulus, the marriage by purchase was prevalent among those, who by reason of poverty were unable to marry their daughters. As an eye witness of this Custom in the region around Taxila, Aristobulus reported that the girls were brought to market place for sale and were left to be examined by the persons interested. They cohabited on such terms as may be agreed upon8.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Regarding the marriage custom of the Indians, Megasthenes stated that the Indians married many wives, whom they bought from their parents, giving in exchange a yoke of oxen. The polygamy was found more common among the Brahmanas. Explaining the reason for this Megasthenes said that they had many wives in order to have numerous children9; for from many wives the number of earnest children would be greater: and since they had no servants, it was necessary for them to provide for more service from children.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

For the age of bride, Megasthenes informed that among the Pandayan people of ìndia the girls were married at the age of seven and the men lived at most foarty years1 2 3. The early marriage among this particular tribe was in consistence with the fact of their short life-span.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

As to the food of the Indians, Herodotus had described the primitive cannibals3, fish eaters4, and the vegetarian ascetics, living mainly on some millet sized grain5. Ktesias had heard the Indian cheese and wine as the sweetest8. Megasthenes had found the rice-pottage as the main meal of the Indians7, which was true for the region where he was mainly staying. He found meat-eating common even among the Brahmanas. According to him only the ascetics, and the Brahmanas during the period of their studentship were not eating meat3. In the Roman age, the vegetarianism of the Indians was greatly eulogized by Philostratos. He stated that the Brahmanas had taught the sages of Egypt to avoid animal food and from them Pythagoras took his rule of life, who was in contact with the Egyptians9.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Regarding the wine-drinking, the companions of Alexander had observed the Indians as lover of alcoholic drinks10, but Megasthenes declared that the Indians never drank wine except on some sacrificial rite11. A papyri text of the Roman period refers to the sale of wine as forbidden in some part of Southern India12. But Plutarch erroneously went on to mention India as an introducer of wine13.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

The Indians were described as a lover of ornaments both by Alexander’s companions7 and Megasthenes8. Megasthenes said that, in contrast to the general simplicity of their lives, the Indian loved to adorn themselves. Their robes were embroidered with gold, their ornaments set with precious stones, and they wore gay coloured linen garments, and were accompanied with sun shades. Contrary to this it was also reported that the Indians liked to wear white clothing and not coloured garments9. Regarding the people of Cathaea Onesicritus spoke about their love for beauty10 11. The same was extended by Megasthenes as general feature of the country11

 

[Indo-Aryan]

As to the disposal of the deads, Alexander’s companion Aristobulus had said that the deads were exposed to vultures1, which may be true only for a section of people living in frontier region, on account of the influence of Iran. Regarding the tombs of the Indians, Megasthenes, as preserved by Strabo, stated that they were simple and mounds raised over them were very small1 2. On the other hand Arrian, quoting Megasthenes related that the monuments to the dead were absent in India, because the Indians considered the virtues which men had displayed in life, sufficient to preserve their memory after death3.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Ktesias of Knidos, whose work on India is well-known for marvels, was the first to attribute uprightness to Indians. Among the companions of Alexander, the greatest admirer of the Indians was Onesicritus. It was probably on account of his cynic background that he was attracted towards the Indians and their philosophy9. Megasthenes’s admiration of the Indians was possibly aimed to show the country of his stay more civilized than the other countries known to Greeks. His lndika appears to be an attempt to show that «India is an even better land than Hekataios’s Egypt, a Platonic ideal state with philosophers on the top and that all civilizations spring from India not Egypt»10.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

In the Graeco-Roman age, we notice that the general tendency was to claim the superiority of Graeco-Romans and condemn foreigners. But it is noteworthy that the Indians were an exception to this rule. Besides Greece and Rome, the Imperial authors saw humanity only in distant India. The other foreigners like Germans, Gauls, Thracians, Armenians, Parthians, etc. were treated as uncivilized1.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

The superiority of the Indians was probably felt on account of their wisdom in philosophy. In the Imperial age the great admirers of the Indians were generally those whose own thoughts were similar to Indians. Dio of Prusa later called Chrysostomos, a wandering preacher of Stoic-Cynic philosophy romanticized Indians on account of his philosophical background, like that of Onesicritus. The idealization of Indians by Philostratos was under the influence of Neo-Pythagorism, whose doctrines like those of transmigration of soul, asceticism, monasticism, vegetarianism, etc. were similar to Indian thoughts. The striking similarities between Indian and certain schools of Greek philosophy led certain authors to recognize the influence of India on Greek philosophy. The philosophers like Pythagoras1 2, Democritus3, Plato4, Apollonius of Tyana5, Lycurgus6, and Demetrius of Sounium7 were reported to have derived their knowledge from India ad it was claimed as the original home of philosophy8.

 

[viklewapatel]

Indian Upper castes more similar to Europeans than Lower castes - Genetic Study

For maternally inherited mtDNA, each caste is most similar to Asians. However, 20%-30% of Indian mtDNA haplotypes belong to West Eurasian haplogroups, and the frequency of these haplotypes is proportional to caste rank, the highest frequency of West Eurasian haplotypes being found in the upper castes. In contrast, for paternally inherited Y-chromosome variation each caste is more similar to Europeans than to Asians. Moreover, the affinity to Europeans is proportionate to caste rank, the upper castes being most similar to Europeans, particularly East Europeans. Analysis of these data demonstrated that the upper castes have a higher affinity to Europeans than to Asians, and the upper castes are significantly more similar to Europeans than are the lower castes. Collectively, all five datasets show a trend toward upper castes being more similar to Europeans, whereas lower castes are more similar to Asians.

http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Bamshad2001.pdf

Genetic distances estimated from autosomal polymorphisms have typically demonstrated that caste populations tend to occupy a position intermediate between European and East Asian populations. These results support historical accounts of nomadic pastoralists from central and northwestern Eurasia integrating with existing local populations, and either introducing a system of social stratification or becoming members of the existing upper castes. The predominantly south and east Asian mtDNA haplogroup M is found in more than half of individuals from a wide sampling of castes and is nearly fixed in some Austro-Asiatic tribal populations. This haplogroup is uncommon in western European populations.

The Indus Valley civilisation is key to all South Asian populations. The primary source of ancestry in modern South Asians is a prehistoric genetic gradient between people related to early hunter-gatherers of Iran and Southeast Asia.

The people of the Indus Valley Civilisation are the bridge to most extant Indian populations. Indus Periphery related people are the single most important source of ancestry in South Asia.

 

[viklewapatel]

The superiority of the Indians was probably felt on account of their wisdom in philosophy. In the Imperial age the great admirers of the Indians were generally those whose own thoughts were similar to Indians.

Can't argue with that.

In his contrast between "the Semite and the Indian," British philosopher Houston Stewart Chamberlain observed that the "Aryan Indian can stand as an example of the extreme contrast to the Semite" (p.434, FOUNDATIONS OF THE XIXth CENTURY). "The mind of the Hindoo,” he continued, “embraces an extraordinary amount - too much for his earthly happiness; his feelings are tender and full of sympathy, his sense pious, his thought metaphysically the deepest in the world, his imagination as luxuriant as his primeval forests, as bold as the world's loftiest mountain peak, to which his eye is ever drawn upwards. But two things he entirely lacks ; he has no historical sense at all . This people has produced everything , but no history of its own career — not the trace of a chronicle..." (p.435, FOUNDATIONS OF THE XIXth CENTURY).

Dio of Prusa later called Chrysostomos, a wandering preacher of Stoic-Cynic philosophy romanticized Indians on account of his philosophical background, like that of Onesicritus. The idealization of Indians by Philostratos was under the influence of Neo-Pythagorism, whose doctrines like those of transmigration of soul, asceticism, monasticism, vegetarianism, etc. were similar to Indian thoughts. The striking similarities between Indian and certain schools of Greek philosophy led certain authors to recognize the influence of India on Greek philosophy. The philosophers like Pythagoras1 2, Democritus3, Plato4, Apollonius of Tyana5, Lycurgus6, and Demetrius of Sounium7 were reported to have derived their knowledge from India ad it was claimed as the original home of philosophy8.

Aristotle and Plato considered Greeks innately superior to non-Greeks. It is important to remember, however, that Greek, a "centum" language, is more closely related to Sanskrit than to the others. It is also important to pay heed to J.R Mallory's point that the common linguistic heritage of the Indo-Europeans was only discovered in the eighteenth century and it has seldom, if ever, impinged on the behaviour of the different Indo-Europeans:

History provides little evidence that different Indo-European groups ever recognized their mutual kinship. If the ancient Greeks disparaged an Indian as a barbaros, the Indian dug into the same linguistic legacy to dismiss his non-Aryan neighbours with precisely the same word, barbaras. If kinship of the Indo-Europeans was overlooked in the past, it hardly needs emphasizing that it is absent today. In characteristic hyperbole, Hitler once wrote that the collapse of the Aryans would see the light of civilization extinguished in the world; given the distribution of nuclear arms on this planet, it is far more likely that it will be Indo-Europeans who will end it themselves. Yet we need not finish pessimistically, but rather hope to remind the great superpowers, that whatever their political differences, when they speak to one another, they do so in words that were once common when they shared the same language, the same home and the same beliefs.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Can't argue with that.

In his contrast between "the Semite and the Indian," British philosopher Houston Stewart Chamberlain observed that the "Aryan Indian can stand as an example of the extreme contrast to the Semite" (p.434, FOUNDATIONS OF THE XIXth CENTURY). "The mind of the Hindoo,” he continued, “embraces an extraordinary amount - too much for his earthly happiness; his feelings are tender and full of sympathy, his sense pious, his thought metaphysically the deepest in the world, his imagination as luxuriant as his primeval forests, as bold as the world's loftiest mountain peak, to which his eye is ever drawn upwards. But two things he entirely lacks ; he has no historical sense at all . This people has produced everything , but no history of its own career — not the trace of a chronicle..." (p.435, FOUNDATIONS OF THE XIXth CENTURY).



Aristotle and Plato considered Greeks innately superior to non-Greeks. It is important to remember, however, that Greek, a "centum" language, is more closely related to Sanskrit than to the others. It is also important to pay heed to J.R Mallory (1989) point that the common linguistic heritage of the Indo-Europeans was only discovered in the eighteenth century and it has seldom, if ever, impinged on the behaviour of the different Indo-Europeans:

We have lost a lot of knowledge due to burning and destruction of our libraries and Universities x_x

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Can't argue with that.

In his contrast between "the Semite and the Indian," British philosopher Houston Stewart Chamberlain observed that the "Aryan Indian can stand as an example of the extreme contrast to the Semite" (p.434, FOUNDATIONS OF THE XIXth CENTURY). "The mind of the Hindoo,” he continued, “embraces an extraordinary amount - too much for his earthly happiness; his feelings are tender and full of sympathy, his sense pious, his thought metaphysically the deepest in the world, his imagination as luxuriant as his primeval forests, as bold as the world's loftiest mountain peak, to which his eye is ever drawn upwards. But two things he entirely lacks ; he has no historical sense at all . This people has produced everything , but no history of its own career — not the trace of a chronicle..." (p.435, FOUNDATIONS OF THE XIXth CENTURY).



Aristotle and Plato considered Greeks innately superior to non-Greeks. It is important to remember, however, that Greek, a "centum" language, is more closely related to Sanskrit than to the others. It is also important to pay heed to J.R Mallory's point that the common linguistic heritage of the Indo-Europeans was only discovered in the eighteenth century and it has seldom, if ever, impinged on the behaviour of the different Indo-Europeans:

The fact is that biblical coomer who is also called noah had an important role in the way eurofags saw themselves. He had three sons ham shem and japheth.Ham was cursed because he saw his father naked and was cursed by noah to be slaves. 19th century eurofags saw ham's children to be black africans or hamites.The descendants of shem became Semites or shemites who included the yehovas chosen sheep were equally hated by eurfags.The last who remaind japheth was labelled as forefather of rest of melanin deficient aka eurfags themselves.

But all this meant nothing to our eurfags shitstoryans who first saw magnificent ruins of cities mentioned in the bible in Syria and were overwhelmed and butthurt with anxiety that the hated jews or Semites had a historic one on them. The fact that archaeological findings in Assyria and northern Iraq which indicated a very old Assyrian empire older than greece and bible with tremendous cities and statues as well as inscriptions in langauges that were later deciphered to reveal stories older than bible calling into question many assumptions and obliterated retardation based on the bible.

So the eurfags needed something to project as the "superior" in history. The archaeological findings of Assyrian history had threatened to topple eurfags from their delusional exalted position as gods favoured people. But the problem was japheth too was a Semite and Jews are like final boss of semites. So this was a huge butthurt for eurfags you know having no history of own that coomers had to borrow it from the very semties they hated.

So as you can see.

The larp of aryan is nothing but the identity issues of eurfags.

On a side note Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Pythagoras, Senecca, Marcus Aurelius etc. These were not secular people and not christian/abrahamic people. μετεμψυχωσις is the word for reincarnation in Greeks.

They believed in a pantheon of divine immortal gods, some in reincarnation of souls, in a god given hierarchy of class, priests, warriors etc. But when christianeurfags were forced to confront their writings, they decided its best to appropriate their good. Discard the "heathenism".The entire foundation of britfags eurfags and amreekunts philosophy or science is built on one big lie. It's the lie that there is cultural and religious continuity between Ancient Greece, Rome and modern eurofags. It's the lie that the renaissance had nothing to do with Paganism.


So when plato says Minos or MANU was educated by Zeus as mentioned by both Homer & Hesiod – and held in the highest regard by them. This is akin to MANU of BHARATA the divine lawgiver who possesses the Rājavidyā in BHARTIYA tradition.

BHARAT Greeks contacts are well established.Even Pythagoras was influenced and adopted vegetarianism.

 

[viklewapatel]

R1a1 in India cuts across language, caste, tribe, and religion

Pic related are some Dravidian speaking tribal groups with high R1a frequency.

While several IE speakers have lower or similar R1a frequency such as

Kashmiri Pandits (19.61%)
Punjabi Brahmins (35%)
Gujarati Brahmins (32%)
Gujarati Patels (22%)
(Sahoo et al)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/s...aste-tribe-and-religion&p=7353448#post7353448

 

[viklewapatel]

R1a1 in India cuts across language, caste, tribe, and religion

While several IE speakers have lower or similar R1a frequency such as

Kashmiri Pandits (19.61%)
Punjabi Brahmins (35%)
Gujarati Brahmins (32%)
Gujarati Patels (22%)
(Sahoo et al)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/s...aste-tribe-and-religion&p=7353448#post7353448

But the main question is: How much autosomal ancestry do they have? y-dna is a single chromosome

My results are:

Y-DNA (P): E1b1b (DNA Solutions Australia; DNA Diagnostics Center (DDC) Cincinnati OH).
mtDNA (M): W6 (DNA Solutions Australia; FTDNA; 23andMe).
Ancestry/Autosomal DNA/DNA Origins: 77% Ancient European (FTDNA); 0% Sub-Saharan African [AF], 0% East Asian [EA] (DDC).
ancientOrigins/Ancient European Origins: Metal Age Invader 67%, Early Farmer 10%, Hunter-Gatherer 0%, non-European 23% (FTDNA).
myOrigins: Western India 100% (FTDNA).

Genes Matter: 8 Different Genetic Testing Companies Used

Apricity is a European Cultural Community

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Haplogroup J is common in India, but E is very rare (Pamjav et al., 2011). See also Sharma et al. (2009), The Indian origin of paternal haplogroup R1a1* substantiates the autochthonous origin of Brahmins and the caste system. Table 1 Y-haplogroups percentage distribution in studied regional population groups of India:

E

Gujarati Brahmins (3.33)

https://archive.md/ye2wa#selection-2313.29-2313.33

Veddoid race have NOTHING to do with the Australian aborigines, Onge Andamanese, Negrito, Papuan - Page 16

Apricity is a European Cultural Community

www.theapricity.com

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/s...E-very-rare-in-South-Asia-Indian-Subcontinent

https://archive.md/rQSYN#selection-461.0-485.82