Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

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Ya'll Nibbiars It's time rename the thread once and for all.
 

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Mice migration from ancient India. Indicate possible human movement as the rodents would flourish around grain storages. The movement of mice implies trail of food or grains being carried along...


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Rajiv Malhotra explains :-


 

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The very logic of any "Aryan" invasion or migration for that matter is nonsense. For that to happen, there must have been people identifying themselves as Aryan. Of the 5 lunar tribes of the Rig veda, only a sub- tribe i.e. the Bharatas of the Puru tribe called themselves aryan. Later it did spread to the ancient Iranians but that was it. The solar tribes like the Ikshvakus were not even seen as people of the Rig veda, let alone as Aryan, kind of ironic when we have just celebrated a temple dedicated to the most famous of the Ikshvaku tribe.
 

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The very logic of any "Aryan" invasion or migration for that matter is nonsense. For that to happen, there must have been people identifying themselves as Aryan. Of the 5 lunar tribes of the Rig veda, only a sub- tribe i.e. the Bharatas of the Puru tribe called themselves aryan. Later it did spread to the ancient Iranians but that was it. The solar tribes like the Ikshvakus were not even seen as people of the Rig veda, let alone as Aryan, kind of ironic when we have just celebrated a temple dedicated to the most famous of the Ikshvaku tribe.
You don't need logic
You need narratives that the AIT "proves"
  1. Whites are conquerors and civilizers from the central azn steppe days, Hinduism is a white creation corrupted by mixed breed Dravidian poojeets
  2. There is no Indian nation or identity, since Indians themselves are white and "dravidian" hybrids
  3. There is no Indian nation or identity before the British, since there are many castes and languages
  4. North India and South India are Aryans and Dravidians, no Indian nation exists
  5. Caste system is a white creation( don't say this out loud tho! ) therefore white people at the top and dark skinned people at the bottom, just like the real life Latin American caste system made by the Spanish colonialists, surely this is not some projection to the past of a different nation meant to further your own colonial rule
  6. Since Naarth Indians are invaders, Dravdians are original inhabitants and are a seperate nation
  7. Hinduism is an Aryan religion oppressing Dravidians, therefore all hindu asurs are brave dravidian warriors from ages past and you must convert to Christianity

There are some more things but this is the gist of it.

As you notice many group's interests are served,
  • Protestant soul-harvesters,
  • Racist neo-nazi 4chancels( online and offline ) and before them their Colonial forefathers
  • Librandus/Marxshits/Congressis screeching about No India before 1947, No India without Lehruji, Gandiji etc
  • Deemka style "Dravidian Ideology" Periyar devotees
  • Green Mazhubis(So what Hindu, you are a result of conquest, you oppressed muh dravidians )
  • Bhimtas/Mool Nivasis
  • Tribals from central India, same folks who get recruited into Naxals/Maoists.
 

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Biggest problem is the horse argument.

Who brought horses to India.
 

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Any theory (or incident happened in past) is formulated when you find evidence or proofs ragarding it.. there are some early sign on which research & study for further evidence is done to find out more things & it helps understanding what actually happened in past..

But if a theory is made by a foreigner in 1800s without evidence, just a theory is made with no evidences to back it,nor early signs ,evidence to back it, means it purpose was something else, & now we search for the evidence regarding it..

How can just a random guy think that this culture & language came from foreign by invasions & form a theory regarding it. Without proper evidences & neither science was developed enough at that time to analyse many things which we can do today..

Am I right ?
 

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Very based article.
I have only read halfway and it has already dusted AIT.
Marxshit historians tried to brush off the presence of horses in IVC and associating it with Indo Aryan.
There have been inscription of horse riding drawings in bhimbatka cave that was at lest 8000 years old. I have no reason to believe they were riding donkeys.
When faced with contradicting elements the marxshit stated a cope that Indigebous horses were long extinct and the current one are central Asian Imort.
 

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Biggest problem is the horse argument.

Who brought horses to India.
There is no horse problem.
The problem is the racist whites assuming that Aryans were a nomadic, horse-based culture, when there is absolutely no proof of that and plenty of proof of the opposite : cows are mentioned far more often in the rig veda than the horse and ashwamedha sacrifice does not make sense for a horse-plenty culture. Indeed, thats why there is no history ever of mongols, turks, shakas etc. ever doing horse sacrifice- why would sacrificing something that every tom,dick and harry has ( a horse in the steppes) be a status symbol of power ?
No, the horse sacrifice makes sense only to a horse-poor culture. For then it shows that one is so powerful that they can sacrifice something that is incredibly rare and expensive.

Cultures that are poor in a particular resource, tend to value it highly. This is why the greek and roman writings have several mention of ' omg elephants !! hathi hathi hathi!!! did you see the hathi of hannibal ? no ? what about the 300 hathis of seleucus?' and Indian authors mention matter of factly that there were several hundred or several thousand elephants present in xyz battle.
Because elephants are commonplace to us, to the greco-roman world, where they must be imported into, it was a stunning statement of power and wealth.
 

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It seems kind of stupid to have a thread on Aryan Race theory and not have pictures of any Aryan babes.
Such a shame.

Here we go.
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Of course, lots of plastic surgery applied.
 

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ashwamedha sacrifice does not make sense for a horse-plenty culture. Indeed, thats why there is no history ever of mongols, turks, shakas etc. ever doing horse sacrifice- why would sacrificing something that every tom,dick and harry has ( a horse in the steppes) be a status symbol of power ?
No, the horse sacrifice makes sense only to a horse-poor culture. For then it shows that one is so powerful that they can sacrifice something that is incredibly rare and expensive.

Cultures that are poor in a particular resource, tend to value it highly.
This makes sense.
Question, in the sacrifices/special rituals, are the components given/sacrificed always rare? How does it compare to bali of goat or sheep to kali. In the case of mongols, what sacrifices did they do?
 

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There is no horse problem.
The problem is the racist whites assuming that Aryans were a nomadic, horse-based culture, when there is absolutely no proof of that and plenty of proof of the opposite : cows are mentioned far more often in the rig veda than the horse and ashwamedha sacrifice does not make sense for a horse-plenty culture. Indeed, thats why there is no history ever of mongols, turks, shakas etc. ever doing horse sacrifice- why would sacrificing something that every tom,dick and harry has ( a horse in the steppes) be a status symbol of power ?
No, the horse sacrifice makes sense only to a horse-poor culture. For then it shows that one is so powerful that they can sacrifice something that is incredibly rare and expensive.

Cultures that are poor in a particular resource, tend to value it highly. This is why the greek and roman writings have several mention of ' omg elephants !! hathi hathi hathi!!! did you see the hathi of hannibal ? no ? what about the 300 hathis of seleucus?' and Indian authors mention matter of factly that there were several hundred or several thousand elephants present in xyz battle.
Because elephants are commonplace to us, to the greco-roman world, where they must be imported into, it was a stunning statement of power and wealth.
in ashwa medha yagna which translates to "horse sacrifice" in english is not a bali(sacrifice), isn't it?
 

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Biggest problem is the horse argument.

Who brought horses to India.
Assuming Mahabharat war happened prior to what is termed as early phase of IVC or SSVC i.e. 5300-4600 years ago; an argument can be made that a large population of horses and elephants reduced significantly since they were mainly used in the war, to the extent of becoming extinct. One of the consequences could be the rarity of horse or similar and elephant related seals from the ones found so far.

Astronomical references in Mahabharat text go back to 7500 years ago. There is also an evidence of rising water levels near west coast of India roughly around the same time, implying possible flooding of Dwarka.
 

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