Arunanchal Pradesh borders Tibet,not China:Arunanchal pradesh Chief Minister Pema Khandu

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Ignoring China’s protest, Dalai Lama begins Arunachal tour with change of itinerary

Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama arrives in Bomdila in West Kameng district of Arunachal Pradesh on Tuesday. (Rajib Jyoti Sarma/ HT Photo

Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, on Tuesday began a week-long visit to Arunachal Pradesh, India’s easternmost state that is at the heart of a decades-old dispute with China.

But, while China has been predictable in its warnings against the Dalai Lama’s visit, the weather was not – both in Aruanachal and Assam.

But neither could prevent the 14th Dalai Lama from travelling to the frontier state on Tuesday, albeit with a last-minute change of plan, as a guest of the BJP-ruled state government.

The 81-year-old spiritual leader was scheduled to fly to Tawang, a Buddhist pilgrimage at 10,000 feet, along with chief minister Pema Khandu. But the state-run helicopter could not take off from the airport in Guwahati due to torrential rain.


People stand in the rain as they wait to welcome Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama in Bomdila in Arunachal Pradesh. (REUTERS)
“The weather forced us to take the road. Our tour of Arunachal Pradesh is on course but with a change in schedule,” Tenzin Takhla, the private secretary to the Dalai Lama, told HT.

The Dalai Lama’s itinerary, a government spokesperson said, has been reversed.

He will now be reaching Tawang, about 180km from Bomdila, on April 8 for a three-day stay.

The spiritual leader was earlier scheduled to depart from Tawang on April 9 and visit other places, some of which, including state capital Itanagar are likely to be struck off the itinerary.

The rain, however, followed the Dalai Lama when he arrived at Bomdila’s Lower Gompa after an almost nine-hour drive. Almost everyone who matters in Arunachal Pradesh – from ministers and local MLAs to the chief secretary and director general of police – had queued up in the rain to greet him.


Devotees greet the Dalai Lama as he arrives atthe Thubchok Gatsel Ling Monastery inBomdila in Arunachal Pradesh. (AP)
“This is a great day for us, and we are fortunate His Holiness accepted our invitation,” Khandu said. He had gone to Dharamshala last year to invite the Dalai Lama.

One of his aides said the Dalai Lama’s visit was purely spiritual without any geo-political message for anyone.

But with the Red Dragon breathing fire from across the India-Tibet border not far away, the Tibetan spiritual leader’s visit did try to drive home New Delhi’s message.

“This is our internal affair. China should not interfere just as we do not interfere in their internal matters,” Kiren Rijiju, Union minister of state for home affairs who hails from West Kameng district, had said in Itanagar on Sunday.

The external affairs ministry said in a statement on Tuesday that “no additional colour should be ascribed to his religious and spiritual activities and visits to various states of India”.

The Indian government, therefore, urges that no “artificial controversy” should be created around his current visit to Arunachal Pradesh, it added.


Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama arrives at the Thubchog Gatsel Ling Monastery in Bomdila in Arunachal Pradesh. (REUTERS)
The Dalai Lama’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh, particularly the Tawang region, is his second in eight years.

His last visit was in 2009, exactly 50 years after he reached India after fleeing from Lhasa,Tibet. His visit then had also evoked strong reactions from China.

China claims claims about 90,000 square kilometres in Arunachal Pradesh, which Beijing often refers to as “Southern Tibet”.

Several rounds of talks have failed to make substantial progress on the dispute, although there have been relatively few confrontations in recent years.

Last month, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said that Beijing has expressed its concerns to New Delhi on numerous occasions and urged India to avoid offering a place for the Dalai Lama to carry out anti-China separatist activities.

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...f-itinerary/story-3i5ZQkjcmMWOu3ZztnNlUK.html
 

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India supports one china policy. That includes Tibet. India has not officially rejected Tibet as a part of china. Only the AP CM has said that.

But still, its a good statement sure to hurt chinki butt.
 

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India supports one china policy. That includes Tibet. India has not officially rejected Tibet as a part of china. Only the AP CM has said that.

But still, its a good statement sure to hurt chinki butt.
It is start of things to come. If China pokes it nose in NSG, CPEC & all other matters which concerns India then India too can play cards and give them back in language they understand.

They've got taste of Modi and Doval's bitter policy and now full lunch will be pushed down their throats.
 

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In 1-2 decades there will be no reason for Dalai Lama to visit Arunachal Pradesh. AP will completely turn into a Christian state unless His Holiness Dalai Lama does something about it.

Buddhism is weak and just like they lost Tibet, they will loose their religion as well.

Now that there is a BJP government in Arunachal Pradesh, lets see how things turn out.
 

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Dalai Lama Arunachal visit: 'Answer blows with blows if India plays dirty,' says Chinese media
Dalai Lama
HIGHLIGHTS

  • In one of the edits today, the state-run media implied that the monk's visit is being used as a tit-for-tat against Beijing
  • Yesterday, China's foreign ministry accused India of "losing its dignity" by "playing around with" the Dalai Lama.


NEW DELHI: China is again using the media it runs as a proxy to issue threats - its latest ones are calls to Beijing to answer India's "blows with blows" and to interfere in "India's turbulent northern state (which) borders China".




That China's upset with the Dalai Lama visiting the border state of Arunachal Pradesh was made patently clear over the last week. That it's livid was made even clearer in two editorials today in state-run media, China Daily and Global Times.

"If New Delhi chooses to play dirty, however, Beijing should not hesitate to answer blows with blows," said a China Daily edit, about the Dalai Lama's visit.



The Global Times edit threatened Beijing's interference in Kashmir, without naming the border state.



"With a GDP several times higher than that of India, military capabilities that can reach the Indian Ocean and having good relations with India's peripheral nations, coupled with the fact that India's turbulent northern state borders China, if China engages in a geopolitical game with India, will Beijing lose to New Delhi?" the edit threatened. To simplify the confusing language, what it meant was it could interfere in Kashmir and other border states if it so wished.

It appears what has irked Beijing the most are Union minister Kiren Rijiju's comments and the fact that he accompanied the Dalai Lama to Arunachal.

"China should not object to the Dalai Lama's visit and interfere in India's internal affairs," Rijiju said yesterday.

China Daily today conveyed Beijing's enormous displeasure over that comment.

"Rijiju might think himself cute in borrowing a line from Beijing's diplomatic representations, but he has ignored the fundamental distinction here: Like Taiwan and any other part of China, Tibet is a part of Chinese territory no matter whether New Delhi agrees or not," China Daily's edit said.

For more proof Beijing is irked with Rijiju, here's the Global Times, a paper run by China's Communist Party, today:

"The Dalai Lama has been to the disputed region before, but what makes this trip different is that he is received and accompanied by India's Junior Home Minister Kiren Rijiju," Global Times said.

To Rijiju's assertion that southern Tibet is "an inseparable part of India", China Daily reached back into history to British colonial times.

Southern Tibet, it said, "was stolen from China by his country's former colonial master taking advantage of China's internal strife."

Yesterday, China's foreign ministry accused India of "losing its dignity" by "playing around with" the Dalai Lama.

In one of the edits today, the state-run media implied that the monk's visit is being used as a tit-for-tat against Beijing, which refused to support India's membership to the Nuclear Suppliers Group, and didn't censure Pakistan-based terrorist Masood Azhar.

"The Dalai's visit to Arunachal Pradesh this time is seen as New Delhi using the monk as a diplomatic tool to put pressure on China. But this is a clumsy and rude move. The Dalai is a highly politicized symbol in China's diplomacy," Global Times said.



http://m.timesofindia.com/india/dal...y-says-chinese-media/articleshow/58042453.cms

Gloves are out China threatening India through its media.
 

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Dalai Lama Arunachal visit: 'Answer blows with blows if India plays dirty,' says Chinese media
Dalai Lama
HIGHLIGHTS
  • In one of the edits today, the state-run media implied that the monk's visit is being used as a tit-for-tat against Beijing
  • Yesterday, China's foreign ministry accused India of "losing its dignity" by "playing around with" the Dalai Lama.


NEW DELHI: China is again using the media it runs as a proxy to issue threats - its latest ones are calls to Beijing to answer India's "blows with blows" and to interfere in "India's turbulent northern state (which) borders China".




That China's upset with the Dalai Lama visiting the border state of Arunachal Pradesh was made patently clear over the last week. That it's livid was made even clearer in two editorials today in state-run media, China Daily and Global Times.

"If New Delhi chooses to play dirty, however, Beijing should not hesitate to answer blows with blows," said a China Daily edit, about the Dalai Lama's visit.



The Global Times edit threatened Beijing's interference in Kashmir, without naming the border state.



"With a GDP several times higher than that of India, military capabilities that can reach the Indian Ocean and having good relations with India's peripheral nations, coupled with the fact that India's turbulent northern state borders China, if China engages in a geopolitical game with India, will Beijing lose to New Delhi?" the edit threatened. To simplify the confusing language, what it meant was it could interfere in Kashmir and other border states if it so wished.

It appears what has irked Beijing the most are Union minister Kiren Rijiju's comments and the fact that he accompanied the Dalai Lama to Arunachal.

"China should not object to the Dalai Lama's visit and interfere in India's internal affairs," Rijiju said yesterday.

China Daily today conveyed Beijing's enormous displeasure over that comment.

"Rijiju might think himself cute in borrowing a line from Beijing's diplomatic representations, but he has ignored the fundamental distinction here: Like Taiwan and any other part of China, Tibet is a part of Chinese territory no matter whether New Delhi agrees or not," China Daily's edit said.

For more proof Beijing is irked with Rijiju, here's the Global Times, a paper run by China's Communist Party, today:

"The Dalai Lama has been to the disputed region before, but what makes this trip different is that he is received and accompanied by India's Junior Home Minister Kiren Rijiju," Global Times said.

To Rijiju's assertion that southern Tibet is "an inseparable part of India", China Daily reached back into history to British colonial times.

Southern Tibet, it said, "was stolen from China by his country's former colonial master taking advantage of China's internal strife."

Yesterday, China's foreign ministry accused India of "losing its dignity" by "playing around with" the Dalai Lama.

In one of the edits today, the state-run media implied that the monk's visit is being used as a tit-for-tat against Beijing, which refused to support India's membership to the Nuclear Suppliers Group, and didn't censure Pakistan-based terrorist Masood Azhar.

"The Dalai's visit to Arunachal Pradesh this time is seen as New Delhi using the monk as a diplomatic tool to put pressure on China. But this is a clumsy and rude move. The Dalai is a highly politicized symbol in China's diplomacy," Global Times said.



http://m.timesofindia.com/india/dal...y-says-chinese-media/articleshow/58042453.cms

Gloves are out China threatening India through its media.

This is chinese media crying foul and taking cheap potshots at India as usual. They have a deeply embedded superiority complex.
 

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Chinese Media Is Right, Modi's Stand On Dalai Lama Is Big Change
Published: April 05, 2017 20:08 IST


The hotter China gets under the collar over the ongoing visit of the Tibetan holy leader, the Dalai Lama, to Arunachal Pradesh, the wider are the smiles on the faces of Indian officialdom.

As the 82-year-old Dalai Lama insisted on driving eight hours to Bomdila so as not to disappoint the Tibetan Buddhist congregation waiting for hours to receive him - after the authorities forbade him from flying because of rough weather - and prepared to go onwards to Tawang, the Chinese foreign office and media unleashed a barrage of savage criticism.

"We demand the Indian side immediately stop wrong actions, not hype up sensitive issues and take concrete steps to safeguard growth of India-China relations," said Chinese ministry of foreign affairs spokesperson Hua Chunying.

By ignoring China's concerns and persisting in arranging the trip, India had "severely damaged China's interests and China-India relations", she added.

"Unlike his predecessors, India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi seems to have taken a different stance on the Dalai issue, raising public engagements with the monk and challenging Beijing's bottom line," the Chinese-run state media pointed out, using only the pejorative first name in the Tibetan leader's title.

Certainly, much of the Chinese criticism stems from the fact that the Dalai Lama is visiting the remote Tibetan monastery in Tawang district, considered to be disputed territory by the Chinese and doubly sensitive because it was here, in 1683, that the Dalai Lama's ancestor, the sixth incarnation, was born.


India has stressed that the Dalai Lama's visit to Arunachal Pradesh is religious, not political

Still, the Chinese have definitely caught on to New Delhi's changed thinking on the Dalai Lama. For years, Indian diplomats who worked in China, or those seconded to the China desk in Delhi, including Foreign Secretaries who spoke Chinese and knew China well, tried hard to resurrect the so-called "Tibet card" in their dealings with Beijing.


But they always met with a great wall of resistance by the Indian leadership. Meet the Dalai Lama, exchange private courtesies and greetings, but don't do anything that may irritate the growing power of the dragon, the diplomats were told.


The Modi government, on the other hand, seems to have adopted a diametrically different approach. Conscious that the 82-year-old Tibetan holy leader is not growing any younger, New Delhi seems to have decided to make full use of its "asset", as the Dalai Lama is sometimes vulgarly described, in the ongoing battle of wits with Beijing.

So if China was going to stab India in the eye by refusing it the courtesy of acceding to the Nuclear Suppliers Group, or by being the only country at the UN to hold up sanctions against Jaish-e-Mohammed leader Masood Azhar, then Delhi was certainly not going to sit quietly and turn the other cheek.

In recent months then, Delhi's fury against Beijing was slowly sharpened until it found the perfect outlet. The Tibetan leader was allowed, nay actively encouraged, to undertake activities which may have seemed to be par for the course for a top Buddhist leader, but were in fact not-so-subtle provocations against Beijing.

His meeting with president Pranab Mukherjee in Rashtrapati Bhavan in January, his participation at the Buddhist conference in Nalanda last month, as well as the ongoing visit to Arunachal Pradesh are all part of the same strategy - that of needling the Chinese.


"PM Modi seems to have taken a different stance on the Dalai issue," China's official media said

Interestingly, the Chinese have fallen right into Modi's trap. They got increasingly hot and bothered each time the Dalai Lama came into the public eye. As he prepares to travel to Tawang from Bomdila, Beijing has even threatened a downgrading of the bilateral India-China relationship.


China's reactions are surprising, not least because the Chinese are an ancient civilization. Moreover, they have complete control over Tibet, notwithstanding the occasional dribble of people who continue to escape from there. Beijing's gradual encirclement of India in South Asia - whether through Pakistan, Nepal or even Sri Lanka or Myanmar - is a message to Delhi that it must learn to kowtow to the superior Asian power.


As China becomes the world's dominant power, it should hardly be bothered by the soft smile of the world's gentlest man, the Dalai Lama, leave alone his teachings of the Buddha.


But the truth is that it is. The Chinese are insecure about the Dalai Lama because they know in their heart of hearts that they have wronged the Tibetans - their own people.

The Chinese feel the Dalai Lama causes them to lose face, in front of the rest of the world. He is a living reminder not only of 1950, of the takeover of Tibet, but also of 1959, when he escaped from under their noses to India.

Ironically, none other than Narendra Modi had a terrible meeting with the Dalai Lama, his only one as Prime Minister, on the eve of Chinese president Xi Jinping's visit to India in August 2014. According to a source who was witness, the Tibetan holy leader was taken in an unmarked car and darkened windows to the Prime Minister's residence on Race Course Road in the heart of Delhi and given the diplomatic version of a dressing-down.


The Dalai Lama will offer teachings at the remote Tawang monastery in Arunachal Pradesh

The Dalai Lama is said to have been deeply upset with the Prime Minister.It seems that Modi at the time, somewhat erroneously, believed that the Dalai Lama was trying to send messages to the Xi Jinping establishment for some sort of a deal that would allow him to return honourably to Tibet.


When I asked the Dalai Lama about this meeting some months later, in an interview at the time for India Today, the Tibetan holy leader refused comment. But the meeting seemed to have clearly left a mark.

But over the last year or so, something seems to have happened to have changed the Prime Minister's heart and mind completely. To give credit its due, Modi - along with National Security Advisor Ajit Doval - seem to have led from the front in overhauling official Delhi's treatment of the honoured Tibetan holy leader.

From beyond the pale, the government has pulled the Dalai Lama back into the lakshman rekha and allowed him to carry out religious and socio-cultural activities - enough to make the Chinese sit up and take notice.

Certainly, the new Indian strategy's goal is to rile Beijing, to pay it back for its actions on Masood Azhar and its refusal to allow India into the NSG.

Remember it was none other than Modi who asked Xi Jinping in Tashkent last year to let India become a fellow member of the NSG - but President XI just smiled and shook his head.

The Dalai Lama's travels to Arunachal Pradesh will soon be over. Beijing has said it will soon teach Delhi a lesson. But at the moment at least, Delhi feels it has achieved a minor victory by doing exactly what the Chinese don't like. In the long, historical battle of wits between the two Asian powers, India seems to have won this particular round - and it has the Dalai Lama to thank for it.

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/chinese-proved-today-they-have-fallen-right-into-modis-trap-1677620


The hotter China gets under the collar over the ongoing visit of the Tibetan holy leader, the Dalai Lama, to Arunachal Pradesh, the wider are the smiles on the faces of Indian officialdom.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 

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India Growing some serious steel BALLS.
After decades India denying Tibet to be part of China.
This statement should have come from the govt of India instead of the chief minister. Makes a lot of difference. China ain't gonna take this seriously.
 

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This is chinese media crying foul and taking cheap potshots at India as usual. They have a deeply embedded superiority complex.
It's actually an inferiority complex! They lack confidence in themselves and they suppose that the only way is to act aggressively on the world stage to try and get recognition.
 

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best statement ...

never too late to get the facts correct!!!
 

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This statement should have come from the govt of India instead of the chief minister. Makes a lot of difference. China ain't gonna take this seriously.
It's an apparent hint of policy shift and things that are coming their way. It means if they poke in India's matters like NSG Azhar Masood India too will pay them back. So instead of GOI at first the statement come from CM of AP if matter resolves peacefully then we can back track on that statement if things get dirty the GOI too will join in and declare ap border s with Tibet.
 

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Wondering what the government has in mind. Do they have some short/long term strategy on confronting Chinks? If they have, what set of demands/objectives do they have before making a backstep? Would we stop using Dalai Lama if the Chinese give us support in NSG or agree to not keep protecting Paki terror masterminds? We would need a clear policy with regard to Tibet, can't just use it for favor against Paki. Chinese won't sit quite and our confrontation will go on for longer time than Paki. Doesn't seem very likely where we would be cooperating/complementing each others interests for a long time to come.
 

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Regarding Tibet, India doesn't have any long term strategy I believe. If we do remember Sikkim war clearly, then the outcome of the war decided the fate of Tibet. At that time even after beating back the Chinese aggression after Arunachal fiasco, GOI resorted to agree Tibet to be an autonomous region to keep integrity of Sikkim and avoid further confrontation with China in that front.

Chinese did played their cards cleverly even after losing Sikkim and from then on the Sikkim front is as peaceful as a lullaby. Now as GOI agreed Tibet to be an autonomous region instead of pressing for its sovereign integrity, Govt at present would find it hard to tread along on the same path. It all depends on the mentality and approach of consecutive government.
 

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Parts of Arunachal Pradesh that are close to Bhutan have similar Tibeto-Buddhist culture and have sympathy for Dalai Lama. Regions further east are more tribal and have no significant influence of Tibeto-Biddhist culture and are infested with Christian missionaries.
 

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Well, a good leadership can lead to these kinds of retaliatory statements.

The truth is, Arunachal CMs were always very direct about what they felt about Tibet.

Sadly, we are relying too much on China for commercial development.

I was shocked to see that Kolkata's and Nagpur's new metro systems were ordered to China rather than Japan, Spain, Russia, Canada or Germany.

If we keep doing this, we will keep giving them more and more leverage.
 

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I was shocked to see that Kolkata's and Nagpur's new metro systems were ordered to China rather than Japan, Spain, Russia, Canada or Germany.

If we keep doing this, we will keep giving them more and more leverage.
Agree, but would like to differ a bit with this part. Unlike Pakistan, Indian economy is not going to be hold by neck with projects like this. This sort of project does create a symbiotic relationship in between host(India) and the parasite(China).

India could use these projects to twist Chinese arm to a lesser extent. All India has to loose is on economic part just like China. So by allowing Chinese companies to work in such projects is in a way beneficial for India. What would be harming more to India is to allocate Chinese manufacturing firms to flourish in India.

Man power involvement in any project is beneficial for both the parties, its the money involvement which should be checked.
 

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