Armenian-Azerbaijan 2020 War

[Villager]

Don't read much into Turkish propaganda nor post their links , in future same turk media will be posting shit on india . They already do . Why give them viewership.

They are already doing it.

Just check their Turkish Government TRT about India. I don't think any sanity is to be expected by this Erdogan. Intentionally trying to project India as anti Islam for his radical base. They seem to be propagating the same against most nations excluding China I think.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Karamusali village lies 40 km inside Azerbaijan, NE of line-of-contact (unless theres another Karamusali in Goranboy region). 700 metres from the village, lies an BUK anti-air defence battery.

Yukhari Aghchakend itself has a major military base 800 metres away built between 2013-2015. They lie about 6 km north of the line-of-contact with Artsakh.

These, amid reports of Azerbaijan civilians caught in the crossfire in areas between Tartar town and the line-of-contact, in Shikharkh village, two civilians reportedly killed, two wounded, military dugouts 1.4 km away.

 

[Villager]

It doesn't matter what the international community thinks. Artsakh is Armenian territory, almost all people are Armenian.

Well they do have The Great Russian Encyclopedia's support which concurs that Artsakh people are historically ethnically Armenians.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Armenia MoD video of heavy fighting and destruction of #Azerbaijan vehicles at the position 9km West of Terter.

Azerbaijan D reports footage of MLRS fired during the night, possible the artillery mentioned by Artsekh defence authorities. First is possibly a BM-21 Grad, the second seems to be a larger calibre, maybe Kasirga or Smerch system.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars the current status along the LOC.

 

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[bhramos]

Looks like Russians are getting in the action??

they are waiting for Putin's permission

 

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[Waanar]

These "balloon" decoys have been used in the past to fool and waste airstrikes. This makes sense.
Drone intense wars should have a lot of such decoys. Effort should be made to make the real ones (SAMs, Artillery, depots etc) stay invisible under overhead concealment and put the fakes out in the open or something along those lines.
Just a thought.
Damn, this war is basically "how not to fight a war 101".

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Indian people stand rock solid behind Armenia brothers. Time to teach a lesson to the radical Turkey and Pak.

 

[shade]

Huh, Karabakh is as Azerbaijani as Crimea was to Ukraine....it is a soviet fuck up to placate turks at the hoping they would go communist. This is armenian land through and through as far as you can go back.

It's not a fuck up, it is JUST AS PLANNED so that Russia can continue playing big brother to both.
They did a similar thing with Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan their maps are a bigger clusterfuck than this karabakh issue, and you have all sorts of ethnic clashes happening.

What exactly are they going to lose? They are fighting for a territory that is legally recognised as theirs (not of Armenians) by all of international community. No one supports Armenia's claim of Nagorno-Karabakh as Armenian territory. Unless they venture into Armenia's internationally recognised territory, why would Russians or US would get involved there.

Their objective in this war is to take Karabakh, if they don't succeed in this or it's a stalemate it means they failed to complete their objectives, hence lost.

Military comparison

Global FirePower index ranks Azerbaijan at 64 of 138 while Armenia is ranked 111 of 138.

	Azerbaijan	Armenia
Population	10,046,516	3,038,217
Manpower Available	5,042,346	1,696,085
Active Personnel	126,000	45,000
Reserve Personnel	300,000	200,000
Defense Budget (USD)	$2,805,000,000	$1,385,000,000
Purchasing Power (USD)	$172,000,000,000	$28,340,000,000
Foreign Reserve (USD)	$6,681,000,000	$2,314,000,000
Total Aircraft	147	64
Combat Aircraft	17	0
Dedicated Attack	12	9
Transports	1	3
Trainers	29	13
Helicopters	88	37
Attack Helos	17	20
	LAND POWER
Combat Tanks	570	110
Armored Vehicles	1,451	748
Self-Propelled Artillery	187	38
Field Artillery	227	150
Rocket Projectors	162	68
	NAVAL POWER
Fleet Strength	31	0
Submarines	4	0
Frigates	1	0
Coastal Patrol	13	0
Mine Warfare	7	0
	LOGISTICS
Airports	37	11
Merchant Marine	313	0
Ports & Terminals	1	0
Labor Force	5,118,000	1,507,000
Roadway Coverage	52,942 km	7,705 km
Railway Coverage	2,918 km	869 km
	RESOURCES
Oil Production	789,300 bbl	0
Oil Consumption	180,000 bbl	47,500 bbl
Proven Reserves	7,000,000,000 bbl	0

Azerbaijan is bigger and stronger in almost all areas and is desperate to get back the disputed territory and has been strengthening its military for the same. In year 2015 Azerbaijan spent $ 3 billion dollars on its military, that’s more than Armenia’s entire national budget.

All that paisa, all that equipment, and in the end they will have nothing to show for.
Saudia apparently spends some 10% of it's GDP on defence, having the latest American toys, but what is the use? they can't even keep a lid on a handful of Yemenis backed by Iran?

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars this war has shown us how the slow moving cheap drones are useless. Only the Kamikaze drone can be useful. Even they can be fooled with a decoy. So there is need for High Speed Kamikaze drones.

They prove there can be three type of drones useful.
Surveillance drones.
Fast moving Kamikaze Drones.
UAV Wing man.

The cheap drone in higher number are total flop.
The slow moving armed drones tend to be a liability rather than assets.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Photos show one of the Azerbaijan UAV's shot down by Artsakh Armed Forces in the town of Askeran, Artsakh. The UAV targeted civilian infrastructures. Rescue Service of the NKR. Even Kamikaze drones are being downed with just MANPADS.

 

[utubekhiladi]

Ya'll Nibbiars Photos show one of the Azerbaijan UAV's shot down by Artsakh Armed Forces in the town of Askeran, Artsakh. The UAV targeted civilian infrastructures. Rescue Service of the NKR. Even Kamikaze drones are being downed with just MANPADS.
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looks like harop drone

 

[shade]

Since we are on the topic of f*cked borders of ex-Soviet states, i present you this threesome.
All three have enclaves in each other's countries, and where their borders meet, there is a mountain range in between, the map lines are all arbitrarily drawn around this mountain range.
There is also NUMBA WAN land-grabbing power to their East, RIP.

Soviet border-making is only second the British Empire borders

 

[Haldilal]

looks like harop drone

Ya Slow moving drones have become easy targets. The Need for High Speed Drones is needed. Only then can survive such battle field. And also only when they are equipped with sensors and electronic Counter Measures. We should invest in the Aura UAV, Rustom MK 2, HAL Wing Man and high speed Kamikaze Drones rather than slow moving drones.