Armenian-Azerbaijan 2020 War

[mist_consecutive]

This conflict will be a good case study for the world militaries. Few learnings from it already -

• Tanks are pretty much obsolete in presence of modern ATGMs. More so in urban warfare and mountainous terrains where infantry can sneak up close to launch ATGMs. Even if ATGM is not able to kill the tank, in most cases it will disable it and fry up its sensors and external equipment.
  
  
• UCAVs are becoming a cheap and effective way of taking out ADs, enemy defences and harassing ground forces in general. But with effective & layered ADs will neutralize its effectiveness. However, in presence of an air force, it will be pretty ineffective.

 

[Synergy]

OK you are saying China will go against Iran its most important Ally in middle east & Russia. Good luck with that.
At best they'll stay neutral like us or support their partners

actually Iran is not ally of China. China is trying to make Iran just as Pak 2.0 .
China doesn't have any ally. and if there will be any, then that will be only Russia (though the chance is minimal). everybody else will be just like slaves. China will dictate terms and they have to follow not vice versa.

 

[bhramos]

 

[Kumata]

Well,

I always thought of israelis as our good will folks partly because of similarity .. but alas....good wake up call for me than...

 

[Flying Dagger]

We should be ready to start a new thread on a future Myanmar-Bangladeshi Conflict.

Nope... Not much happening there usual stuff.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Well,

I always thought of israelis as our good will folks partly because of similarity .. but alas....good wake up call for me than...

It is just business and their main enemy is Iran. You can't blame someone for their tactics against their strategic enemy. If any blame Russia and Armenians themselves, they should have taken a deal in 90's to settle but Russians cock blocked at the time and now not evaluating threats even after the last flare up. Armenians will hold Azeris minus Turks.

 

[Flying Dagger]

Well,

I always thought of israelis as our good will folks partly because of similarity .. but alas....good wake up call for me than...

They are trying to survive there.... We don't have guts to take stand on Bangladeshi killing Hindus and we expect others to clean mess for our sentiment?

 

[Deltamendota]

first turkey now Azerbaijan is extensively using ucav to pick out targets , hope our defense experts learn something from this , considering Chinese' ucav threat .?

 

[Waanar]

This conflict will be a good case study for the world militaries. Few learnings from it already -

• Tanks are pretty much obsolete in presence of modern ATGMs. More so in urban warfare and mountainous terrains where infantry can sneak up close to launch ATGMs. Even if ATGM is not able to kill the tank, in most cases it will disable it and fry up its sensors and external equipment.
  
  
• UCAVs are becoming a cheap and effective way of taking out ADs, enemy defences and harassing ground forces in general. But with effective & layered ADs will neutralize its effectiveness. However, in presence of an air force, it will be pretty ineffective.

Tanks are not obsolete if covered by dismounted infantry. What I'm seeing in the videos are solo tanks running helter skelter in open areas to evade ATGMs while they whoosh by or tanks in convoy getting caught between their fellow tanks.

Azerbaijanis are actually pretty bad. Wasn't expecting that.

 

[omaebakabaka]

This conflict will be a good case study for the world militaries. Few learnings from it already -

• Tanks are pretty much obsolete in presence of modern ATGMs. More so in urban warfare and mountainous terrains where infantry can sneak up close to launch ATGMs. Even if ATGM is not able to kill the tank, in most cases it will disable it and fry up its sensors and external equipment.
  
  
• UCAVs are becoming a cheap and effective way of taking out ADs, enemy defences and harassing ground forces in general. But with effective & layered ADs will neutralize its effectiveness. However, in presence of an air force, it will be pretty ineffective.

Yes, load up on ATGM and in our case get something really good domestic in that space. Develop cheap UCAV kamikazis again domestic.

 

[omaebakabaka]

first turkey now Azerbaijan is extensively using ucav to pick out targets , hope our defense experts learn something from this , considering Chinese' ucav threat .?

Didn't we see an ak-630 jigged onto a truck recently?

 

[shade]

Saudis may not like Israel going back in bed with Turks. I feel Israel will not be overtly participating in this mess due to Russians and Saudis.

They are in bed with Azeris, not Turks from Turkey.

Pic related suddenly hates Israel and is a "defender of the Palestinians" to prove his Caliph credentials to foreign momins world wide, you can expect the Caliph-Sultan-Chor's belligerence to eventually end in them pulling out their Embassy and diplomatic ties from/with Israel, and the Jews reciprocating in kind.

 

[Commando 01]

Official Armenian govt sorces says that 59 soldiers has been killd so far and many injured on their side. Azerbaijan not reveling their Casualties. As per videos released by both sides, both countries have lost much armour. Tanks are really not able to perform for any side. Drones are revealing tank positions and then destroyed by precision munitions and ATGMs.

 

[Kumata]

if it's true then it's a war crime as Protocol III of Geneva Convention prohibits usage of incendiary weapons on people.

Lauda Geneva convention... Porkis gogged eyes of saurav kalia...and we are citing geneva shit

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars
Armenian-Azeri conflict Summary
Azerbaijan's losses:
127 Soldiers killed
4 helicopters
36 tanks
11 armoured vehicles captured
27 drones shot

Armenian Losses:
115 Soldiers killed
24 tanks
18 Artillery pieces
16 uav

 

[cereal killer]

Muzzies can't fight war like real men.....history is overwhelming with their tribalism (no offense to tribals)....they are just pests

Please don't bring religion there are many Muslims serving in Indian Army & they do know how to fight.
Azeris may as well suck at it though.

 

[Knowitall]

Well,

I always thought of israelis as our good will folks partly because of similarity .. but alas....good wake up call for me than...

why blame Israel for this. they are making money out of this and backing Azerbaijan because they Armenians have sold uranium to Iran before.

they are a small country behaving like a regional power and doing what's needed for the survival of its people.

If we are so keen to on wanting to see Armenia win maybe we should stop pointing fingers at others in the name of morality and actually do something.

don't want Armenia to lose. then take two of your transporters and send some old air defence equipment and military advisors their way.

no point crying wolf at everyone when we ourselves just sit and twiddle our thumbs.

 

[Kumata]

If we are so keen to on wanting to see Armenia win maybe we should stop pointing fingers at others in the name of morality and actually do something.

don't want Armenia to lose. then take two of your transporters and send some old air defence equipment and military advisors their way.

no point crying wolf at everyone when we ourselves just sit and twiddle our thumbs.

I have a 6th sense that we are already helping armenia covertly though...

 

[shade]

Please don't bring religion there are many Muslims serving in Indian Army & they do know how to fight.
Azeris may as well suck at it though.

Oil and Gas has made them weak and complacent, like the Gulf Arabs.
Armenians of Armenia meanwhile have the "Israeli principle" in their minds and hearts, that their enemies will exterminate them if they fail to defend their homeland to the best of their abilities.
Azeris feel no such existential threat from Armenians, who are atmost a big thorn in their behinds.

 

[Knowitall]

I have a 6th sense that we are already helping armenia covertly though...

personally doubt it the only help from our side might be asking Russia to take some action thats it.