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I was wondering how was our hierarchy
Was it Raja, senapati, mantri
Or Raja, pradhan mantri, senapati
Was it Raja, senapati, mantri
Or Raja, pradhan mantri, senapati
He's not making it up. It's a excavation from Ter, Satavahana era, 1st Century AD. Both the elephant and rider is padded, armored. With a long bow attached. The elephant seems to have a chamfron of some material on.Is that so?.. Ok then you should have no trouble presenting that example with its source, origin & time estimation.
For the sake of argument, I'm gonna ignore the thousands of unarmoured ones.
During the first arab invasions, when the Gurjara Pratihara was fighting the arabs, what sort of swords and armour were our guys equipped with? In fact, what was the standard Indian armour (or lack thereof), when ghaznavi and other turkic tribes invaded in the 1200s-1300s?Is that so?.. Ok then you should have no trouble presenting that example with its source, origin & time estimation.
For the sake of argument, I'm gonna ignore the thousands of unarmoured ones.
Yeah ok, that definitely looks like armour. Still, And an unique rarity... Probably a royal guard or something. Only 1 single specimen against hundreds of thousands of naked elephants.He's not making it up. It's a excavation from Ter, Satavahana era, 1st Century AD. Both the elephant and rider is padded, armored. With a long bow attached. The elephant seems to have a chamfron of some material on.
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Very similar to Arabs, round-tipped straightswords & quilted/mail armour for nobility or the elite standing troops or professional merenaries. Next to nothing for the rabble.During the first arab invasions, when the Gurjara Pratihara was fighting the arabs, what sort of swords and armour were our guys equipped with? In fact, what was the standard Indian armour (or lack thereof), when ghaznavi and other turkic tribes invaded in the 1200s-1300s?
No one is saying that it is common, just challenging your comment that didnt exist at all. Yes, armor in any shape or form is pretty rare till the Islamic invasions. You can look through this thread and find that out alone.Yeah ok, that definitely looks like armour. Still, And an unique rarity... Probably a royal guard or something. Only 1 single specimen against hundreds of thousands of naked elephants.
And armour much inferior to standard seleucid plate & scale. Indians did not adopt the tower-like arrow proof howdah from the western neighbours either. View attachment 51807
That's pretty much what I said. 1 example in 2000 year history is as good as not existing at all, is it not?.. Elsewhere & later, the armour level on elephants had been a deciding factor in several crucial battles.No one is saying that it is common, just challenging your comment that didnt exist at all. Yes, armor in any shape or form is pretty rare till the Islamic invasions. You can look through this thread and find that out alone.
It's not a point of reference for other periods of Indian history, but it is still relevant reference for a certain period of time and empire.That's pretty much what I said... 1 example in 2000 year history is as good as not existing at all, is it not?
Can you shed any light on Rajput/Gurjar pratihar horse archer adoption?.. I have seen illumination & miniature art of of Kings etc. with a quiver & bow on armoured horse, but next to none historical significance or mention in battle descriptions.
In ancient times maybe, In medieval times, not as much although there are several exceptions (quite a few actually). The Mauryans were no castiests or sexists.All this depictions of Women with weapons makes me think that women played an active role in warrior culture
Gurjara*Can you shed any light on Rajput/Gurjar pratihar horse-archery adoption?
Gurjara-Pratiharas payed the most attention to cavalry while conscripting soldiers last minute for infantry. We know this from foreign accounts which describe the Pratihara cavalry as 150,000 with just 800 elephants. Rajputs/Pratiharas would have viewed horse archery as effeminate.Clueless about Gurjar pratihar
I know this much, but the detailed art you get from classical India doesn't survive for them.Gurjara-Pratiharas payed the most attention to cavalry while conscripting soldiers last minute for infantry. We know this from foreign accounts which describe the Pratihara cavalry as 150,000 with just 800 elephants. Rajputs/Pratiharas would have viewed horse archery as effeminate.
This bullheadedness kept costing them everything... And they still refused to learn!Rajputs/Pratiharas would have viewed horse archery as effeminate.
Open some old folders on my PC. Was a little bit wrong earlier.
4th BCE war-elephants illustrated based on Hydaspes description. View attachment 51854
But apparently Mauryan adopted the Carthage to Seleucid tower-howdah.
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Guess what they were riding into battle..?