An Indian Classics Curriculum - by Subhash Kak

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Found it great so posting here for discussions on how the original Indian (mostly Hindu) curriculum would have benefited us which predates many theorem and philosophies which we read today. (Leftists are advised to be civil and calm)

An Indian Classics Curriculum
June - 18

Higher education around the world is facing a crisis. Students are caught between the ever increasing cost of tuition and the permanent loss of jobs due to automation and AI.

Several things are being considered to mitigate the crisis and these include use of technology to reduce the cost of education and creating programs which focus more on principles rather than specific tools that are quickly outdated. It is increasingly accepted that education must focus on methods that give the students the capacity to reinvent themselves by learning required skills on their own to suit the changing demands of the times.

There is a rising voice in the West for reemphasizing a classics-based curriculum that includes the earliest texts of the Western tradition. Educators in India have also begun to speak of a similar classics-based curriculum for India, although there hasn’t been much of a follow-up and new universities such as Ashoka merely copy the Western curriculum.

An Indian-culture centered classics curriculum should be dedicated to universal values and principles and in addition to material on literature, philosophy, polity (arthaśāstra as well as earlier texts that speak of checks and balance between the minister and the king), and history it must include scientific classics. This will help the student get a sense of the historical changes associated with the Indian sciences and understand the relationship of these sciences with other aspects of culture. It will also help the student appreciate the Yoga-Vāsiṣṭha, which should be in the curriculum, for it is, in my view, the greatest novel ever written.

In this article, I focus only on the science component of the classics curriculum because the material on general subjects such as literature and history is well known.

India’s scientific classics

There is general ignorance about India’s scientific tradition. It is granted that Indians had philosophy and religion, medicine, mathematics and the symbol zero, but it is believed that there was little hard science.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. India had many sciences that were based on fundamental principles, axioms, logical inference, and empirical observations. These sciences, in which there is no mention of gods or anything that a modern scientist will consider unreasonable, were generally written down in texts that were called śāstras and sūtras.

A śāstra is a body of teaching ot discipline that is obtained using the instrument (śastra) of logic (śastra can also be an invocation in some contexts). The word sūtra, Sanskrit for thread, is cognate with the Latin sutura (or English, suture), which is the silken thread that was used to hold the seam together after surgery. A sūtra is a pithy representation of a key element of the knowledge basis. Taken in totality, the sutras, along with an appropriate commentary, provide a full representation of the science.[\B]

Some of the more famous mathematical treatises before the astronomical siddhāntas of Āryabhaṭa, Brahmagupta and their successors are the Śulba-sūtra (SS) of Baudhāyana, the Chandaḥ-sūtra (CS) of Piṅgala, and the Nyāya-sūtra (NS) of Gotama.

SS is the subject of geometry and it includes the Pythagoras theorem several centuries prior to its later discovery in Greece; CS is the mathematics of meters and it includes the earliest description of binary numbers, which now are at the basis of computers; and NS is the first formal description of logic, which predates the logic of Aristotle.[\B]

Indians were not only into theory and abstract speculation. Apart from the careful study of motion, vibratory phenomena, acoustics, and transforming power of fire were studied. It was known that lightning bolts had electricity. Magnetism was also known and the Suśruta Saṃhitā speaks of how a loose unbarbed arrow lodged in a wound with a broad mouth can be withdrawn by the use of a magnet. A compass consisting of an iron fish floating in a pan of oil is described. The attraction of a piece of iron to a magnet is mentioned in the epic poem Kumārasambhava by the poet Kālidāsa.[\B]

There are accounts of temples with levitating images as in Somnath, which was destroyed by Mahmud of Ghazni in 1025–1026. When the temple fell “the king directed a person to go and feel all around and above it with a spear, which he did but met with no obstacle. One of the attendants then stated his opinion that the canopy was made of loadstone [a magnetized rock], and that the idol was iron and that the ingenious builder had skillfully contrived that the magnet should not exercise a greater force on any one side — hence the idol was suspended in the middle. When two stones were removed from the summit the idol swerved on one side, when more were taken away it inclined still further, until it rested on the ground.”

Physics and the observer

Another classic that must be part of any classics curriculum is the Vaiśeṣika-sūtra (VS) of Kaṇāda. This is physics which includes laws of motion as well as general principles to describe the physical reality.

Kaṇāda in his sutras enumerates real entities irrespective of whether they can be perceived through the sense organs or not. These are the building blocks of Kaṇāda’s world described through their attributes and motion.

The Vaiśeṣika system has categories not only for space-time-matter but also for attributes related to perception of matter. It starts with six categories that are nameable and knowable. Nothing beyond these six fundamentals is necessary, because they are sufficient to describe everything in the universe from concrete matter to the abstract atom. The six categories are: substance, quality, motion, universal, particularity, and inherence.

There are nine classes of substances, some of which are non-atomic, and some atomic. Every substance was taken to be composed of four different kinds of atoms, two of which had mass and two did not.

Kaṇāda in the VS presents laws of motion and two of them almost read identical to Newton’s laws of motion. It also deals with laws and symmetries, atoms and molecules, transformations and evolution.

It is fascinating that the ideas of VS were communicated by Swami Vivekananda to Nikola Tesla in connection with the possibility of conversion of mass into energy.

Music and drama

The curriculum should also have a component devoted to music and drama. Recent research has shown that music lessons improve cognitive skills and even raise the IQ of students. It is regrettable that music education is not compulsory in schools in India and perhaps it could be made a part of the classics curriculum by teaching it while speaking of the Nāṭya Śāstra of Bharata Muni and the Saṅgīta Ratnākara of Śārṅgadeva.

The Nāṭya Śāstra, sometimes called the fifth Veda, classifies the diverse arts that are embodied in the classical Indian concept of the drama, including dance, music, poetics, and general aesthetics. Bharata explains the relationship between the bhāvas, the emotions evoked in the spectators, and the rasa, essence of the performance or the work of art. He says that the artist should be conscious of the bhāva and the rasa that is being sought to be established.

Yoga and consciousness science

The study of the mind and consciousness take us to the highest reaches of Indian science. While yoga, in its physical aspects, has become very widely known throughout the world, its deeper scientific foundations for consciousness science are less understood. The classics curriculum should include material on this topic, which is a subject of continuing relevance to not only neuroscience, but also physics and philosophy.

This material could be supplemented by a popular presentation of quantum theory in which the observer plays a central role and the interpretation and philosophy of which has many parallels with Vedanta.

Ayurveda and personalized medicine

Modern (allopathic) medicine has not been particularly successful against chronic diseases and it also faces a reproducibility crisis in its research. Some are now looking for new ways to fashion the treatment to the patient’s specific situation in what has been called personalized medicine.

The Ayurveda system is a holistic approach to treatment and well-being. It is based on empirical evidence and it includes both the physical and the psychological states of the patient. Some material from the Ayurveda classics should be a part of the curriculum.

Source :- https://medium.com/@subhashkak1/an-indian-classics-curriculum-d484969ae458
 

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Found it great so posting here for discussions on how the original Indian (mostly Hindu) curriculum would have benefited us which predates many theorem and philosophies which we read today. (Leftists are advised to be civil and calm)

An Indian Classics Curriculum
June - 18

Higher education around the world is facing a crisis. Students are caught between the ever increasing cost of tuition and the permanent loss of jobs due to automation and AI.

Several things are being considered to mitigate the crisis and these include use of technology to reduce the cost of education and creating programs which focus more on principles rather than specific tools that are quickly outdated. It is increasingly accepted that education must focus on methods that give the students the capacity to reinvent themselves by learning required skills on their own to suit the changing demands of the times.

There is a rising voice in the West for reemphasizing a classics-based curriculum that includes the earliest texts of the Western tradition. Educators in India have also begun to speak of a similar classics-based curriculum for India, although there hasn’t been much of a follow-up and new universities such as Ashoka merely copy the Western curriculum.

An Indian-culture centered classics curriculum should be dedicated to universal values and principles and in addition to material on literature, philosophy, polity (arthaśāstra as well as earlier texts that speak of checks and balance between the minister and the king), and history it must include scientific classics. This will help the student get a sense of the historical changes associated with the Indian sciences and understand the relationship of these sciences with other aspects of culture. It will also help the student appreciate the Yoga-Vāsiṣṭha, which should be in the curriculum, for it is, in my view, the greatest novel ever written.

In this article, I focus only on the science component of the classics curriculum because the material on general subjects such as literature and history is well known.

India’s scientific classics

There is general ignorance about India’s scientific tradition. It is granted that Indians had philosophy and religion, medicine, mathematics and the symbol zero, but it is believed that there was little hard science.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. India had many sciences that were based on fundamental principles, axioms, logical inference, and empirical observations. These sciences, in which there is no mention of gods or anything that a modern scientist will consider unreasonable, were generally written down in texts that were called śāstras and sūtras.

A śāstra is a body of teaching ot discipline that is obtained using the instrument (śastra) of logic (śastra can also be an invocation in some contexts). The word sūtra, Sanskrit for thread, is cognate with the Latin sutura (or English, suture), which is the silken thread that was used to hold the seam together after surgery. A sūtra is a pithy representation of a key element of the knowledge basis. Taken in totality, the sutras, along with an appropriate commentary, provide a full representation of the science.[\B]

Some of the more famous mathematical treatises before the astronomical siddhāntas of Āryabhaṭa, Brahmagupta and their successors are the Śulba-sūtra (SS) of Baudhāyana, the Chandaḥ-sūtra (CS) of Piṅgala, and the Nyāya-sūtra (NS) of Gotama.

SS is the subject of geometry and it includes the Pythagoras theorem several centuries prior to its later discovery in Greece; CS is the mathematics of meters and it includes the earliest description of binary numbers, which now are at the basis of computers; and NS is the first formal description of logic, which predates the logic of Aristotle.[\B]

Indians were not only into theory and abstract speculation. Apart from the careful study of motion, vibratory phenomena, acoustics, and transforming power of fire were studied. It was known that lightning bolts had electricity. Magnetism was also known and the Suśruta Saṃhitā speaks of how a loose unbarbed arrow lodged in a wound with a broad mouth can be withdrawn by the use of a magnet. A compass consisting of an iron fish floating in a pan of oil is described. The attraction of a piece of iron to a magnet is mentioned in the epic poem Kumārasambhava by the poet Kālidāsa.[\B]

There are accounts of temples with levitating images as in Somnath, which was destroyed by Mahmud of Ghazni in 1025–1026. When the temple fell “the king directed a person to go and feel all around and above it with a spear, which he did but met with no obstacle. One of the attendants then stated his opinion that the canopy was made of loadstone [a magnetized rock], and that the idol was iron and that the ingenious builder had skillfully contrived that the magnet should not exercise a greater force on any one side — hence the idol was suspended in the middle. When two stones were removed from the summit the idol swerved on one side, when more were taken away it inclined still further, until it rested on the ground.”

Physics and the observer

Another classic that must be part of any classics curriculum is the Vaiśeṣika-sūtra (VS) of Kaṇāda. This is physics which includes laws of motion as well as general principles to describe the physical reality.

Kaṇāda in his sutras enumerates real entities irrespective of whether they can be perceived through the sense organs or not. These are the building blocks of Kaṇāda’s world described through their attributes and motion.

The Vaiśeṣika system has categories not only for space-time-matter but also for attributes related to perception of matter. It starts with six categories that are nameable and knowable. Nothing beyond these six fundamentals is necessary, because they are sufficient to describe everything in the universe from concrete matter to the abstract atom. The six categories are: substance, quality, motion, universal, particularity, and inherence.

There are nine classes of substances, some of which are non-atomic, and some atomic. Every substance was taken to be composed of four different kinds of atoms, two of which had mass and two did not.

Kaṇāda in the VS presents laws of motion and two of them almost read identical to Newton’s laws of motion. It also deals with laws and symmetries, atoms and molecules, transformations and evolution.

It is fascinating that the ideas of VS were communicated by Swami Vivekananda to Nikola Tesla in connection with the possibility of conversion of mass into energy.

Music and drama

The curriculum should also have a component devoted to music and drama. Recent research has shown that music lessons improve cognitive skills and even raise the IQ of students. It is regrettable that music education is not compulsory in schools in India and perhaps it could be made a part of the classics curriculum by teaching it while speaking of the Nāṭya Śāstra of Bharata Muni and the Saṅgīta Ratnākara of Śārṅgadeva.

The Nāṭya Śāstra, sometimes called the fifth Veda, classifies the diverse arts that are embodied in the classical Indian concept of the drama, including dance, music, poetics, and general aesthetics. Bharata explains the relationship between the bhāvas, the emotions evoked in the spectators, and the rasa, essence of the performance or the work of art. He says that the artist should be conscious of the bhāva and the rasa that is being sought to be established.

Yoga and consciousness science

The study of the mind and consciousness take us to the highest reaches of Indian science. While yoga, in its physical aspects, has become very widely known throughout the world, its deeper scientific foundations for consciousness science are less understood. The classics curriculum should include material on this topic, which is a subject of continuing relevance to not only neuroscience, but also physics and philosophy.

This material could be supplemented by a popular presentation of quantum theory in which the observer plays a central role and the interpretation and philosophy of which has many parallels with Vedanta.

Ayurveda and personalized medicine

Modern (allopathic) medicine has not been particularly successful against chronic diseases and it also faces a reproducibility crisis in its research. Some are now looking for new ways to fashion the treatment to the patient’s specific situation in what has been called personalized medicine.

The Ayurveda system is a holistic approach to treatment and well-being. It is based on empirical evidence and it includes both the physical and the psychological states of the patient. Some material from the Ayurveda classics should be a part of the curriculum.

Source :- https://medium.com/@subhashkak1/an-indian-classics-curriculum-d484969ae458
In Isha Sanskriti school, a beautiful syllabus is taught. It includes Yoga, Classical Music, Kalari martial arts, Siddha vaidya, Mths, Physic and English as a foreign language. We must design something similar. Yoga must be taught without fail.
 

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The Ayurveda system is a holistic approach to treatment and well-being. It is based on empirical evidence and it includes both the physical and the psychological states of the patient. Some material from the Ayurveda classics should be a part of the curriculum.
Not a long time ago I experienced the miracle of Ayurveda which surprised doctors.
 

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Problem and proposal are unrelated. I'm in for teaching Indian culture to students but that doesn't mean that the modern science taught to them shouldn't be elevated.

We may also teach some disclassified technologies to them what we have achieved and dusted in past.

Morals & national history will continue to be important to make them grow patriotic and staying in country to work rather than only teaching invasions for sure.

Many students started to feel Indian race as inferior before 2014.
 
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Problem and proposal are unrelated. I'm in for teaching Indian culture to students but that doesn't mean that the modern science taught to them shouldn't be elevated.

We may also tech some disclassified technologies to them what we have achieved and dusted in past.

Morals & national history will continue to be important to make them grow patriotic and staying in country to work rather than only teaching invasions for sure.

Many students started to feel Indian race as inferior before 2014.
The sense of self cultural respect should be our priority, students should know that their ancestors have done a great deal in science and philosophy. And that some of it even predates current scientific beliefs.
 

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please do share your 'anubhav' with us.
On 1st of October, I went for regular health check up in one of the reputed hospital of the surat's reputed hospital. Our Company does medical check up for employee every year. Doctor told me after echo-cardiogram that My heart is functioning only 20-25%. He sent me to a very senior doctor for further consultation who supported the findings of his junior doctor and advised me to do an-geography at the earliest. It was a very tough time for me. Since my left leg was operated 2 and half month ago, my movement was very limited and hence I did not do any hard work which gives indication of heart problem. When doctor told me this, I started realizing this. pulse rate was 117 and BP was 97/145. Doctor gave me 6 types of medicine which I need to take 9 tablets every day.

When my cousin came to know this, he came to my place and took me to Amadavad. He took me to one of his friend who is also a doctor. He also told me same thing. He then took me to a vaidya who belongs to our cast and honored in a social gathering few days back in our community function on his retirement from the post of director of Ayurvedic colleges. . My brother knows him. He took my right hand into his hand and told me that my heat=rt function works 25% only without seeing my report which he saw subsequently.

He told me not to worry as Ayurved has the solution of same. He gave me medicine and told me that I can not eat anything except barley floor with shells and Moong and that too only once in a day. I can not eat anything except that. I can only drink cow milk boiled with same quantity of water boiled to half. He told me to eat medicine and follow diet for one month. He told me to go to same doctor after one month and get the same report done and meet him after one month. Almost everybody advised me to follow doctor's advise and do what doctors tell me to do including angiography/ angioplasty/ Bypass. I was scarred but yet I decided to go as advsed by Vaidya.
One month past. I went to same doctor with my other cousin who is also a famous psychiatrist of the city. The doctor is his friend. He checked me once again. Heart functioning had improved to 35% (55 to 60% is normal /healthy heart). He was amazed a bit. he told that his assistant can not report such a wrong figure. He can at the most do report with 2-3% of error.
Doctor reduced my tablets from 6 to 2. BP is 82/115. Pulse rate was 91. Weight reduced by 5 kg. Doctor gave the report of Normal heart functioning. No angiography was recommended. heart size reduced by 5%. He only told be to do calcium test deposit test in artery in which no calcium deposit was found.

I went to vaidya and told him the story of how doctor was amazed. Vaidya told me that when you will go next time, he will have bigger surprise. He told me to follow same diet for other 2 month and I will become absolutely normal with very healthy heart functioning. Lots of people has asked me for the address of vaidya subsequently. I will post my reports as well.
 

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On 1st of October, I went for regular health check up in one of the reputed hospital of the surat's reputed hospital. Our Company does medical check up for employee every year. Doctor told me after echo-cardiogram that My heart is functioning only 20-25%. He sent me to a very senior doctor for further consultation who supported the findings of his junior doctor and advised me to do an-geography at the earliest. It was a very tough time for me. Since my left leg was operated 2 and half month ago, my movement was very limited and hence I did not do any hard work which gives indication of heart problem. When doctor told me this, I started realizing this. pulse rate was 117 and BP was 97/145. Doctor gave me 6 types of medicine which I need to take 9 tablets every day.

When my cousin came to know this, he came to my place and took me to Amadavad. He took me to one of his friend who is also a doctor. He also told me same thing. He then took me to a vaidya who belongs to our cast and honored in a social gathering few days back in our community function on his retirement from the post of director of Ayurvedic colleges. . My brother knows him. He took my right hand into his hand and told me that my heat=rt function works 25% only without seeing my report which he saw subsequently.

He told me not to worry as Ayurved has the solution of same. He gave me medicine and told me that I can not eat anything except barley floor with shells and Moong and that too only once in a day. I can not eat anything except that. I can only drink cow milk boiled with same quantity of water boiled to half. He told me to eat medicine and follow diet for one month. He told me to go to same doctor after one month and get the same report done and meet him after one month. Almost everybody advised me to follow doctor's advise and do what doctors tell me to do including angiography/ angioplasty/ Bypass. I was scarred but yet I decided to go as advsed by Vaidya.
One month past. I went to same doctor with my other cousin who is also a famous psychiatrist of the city. The doctor is his friend. He checked me once again. Heart functioning had improved to 35% (55 to 60% is normal /healthy heart). He was amazed a bit. he told that his assistant can not report such a wrong figure. He can at the most do report with 2-3% of error.
Doctor reduced my tablets from 6 to 2. BP is 82/115. Pulse rate was 91. Weight reduced by 5 kg. Doctor gave the report of Normal heart functioning. No angiography was recommended. heart size reduced by 5%. He only told be to do calcium test deposit test in artery in which no calcium deposit was found.

I went to vaidya and told him the story of how doctor was amazed. Vaidya told me that when you will go next time, he will have bigger surprise. He told me to follow same diet for other 2 month and I will become absolutely normal with very healthy heart functioning. Lots of people has asked me for the address of vaidya subsequently. I will post my reports as well.
Wow !

heart size reduced by 5%
Did you have LVH ?


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Our family friend was told that doctors wont be able to do anything about his heart blockage. They had given up. At last he went to nisarg upchar kendra and voila he did recover and now free of blockage. Dont underestimate our ancient knowledge
 

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On 1st of October, I went for regular health check up in one of the reputed hospital of the surat's reputed hospital. Our Company does medical check up for employee every year. Doctor told me after echo-cardiogram that My heart is functioning only 20-25%. He sent me to a very senior doctor for further consultation who supported the findings of his junior doctor and advised me to do an-geography at the earliest. It was a very tough time for me. Since my left leg was operated 2 and half month ago, my movement was very limited and hence I did not do any hard work which gives indication of heart problem. When doctor told me this, I started realizing this. pulse rate was 117 and BP was 97/145. Doctor gave me 6 types of medicine which I need to take 9 tablets every day.

When my cousin came to know this, he came to my place and took me to Amadavad. He took me to one of his friend who is also a doctor. He also told me same thing. He then took me to a vaidya who belongs to our cast and honored in a social gathering few days back in our community function on his retirement from the post of director of Ayurvedic colleges. . My brother knows him. He took my right hand into his hand and told me that my heat=rt function works 25% only without seeing my report which he saw subsequently.

He told me not to worry as Ayurved has the solution of same. He gave me medicine and told me that I can not eat anything except barley floor with shells and Moong and that too only once in a day. I can not eat anything except that. I can only drink cow milk boiled with same quantity of water boiled to half. He told me to eat medicine and follow diet for one month. He told me to go to same doctor after one month and get the same report done and meet him after one month. Almost everybody advised me to follow doctor's advise and do what doctors tell me to do including angiography/ angioplasty/ Bypass. I was scarred but yet I decided to go as advsed by Vaidya.
One month past. I went to same doctor with my other cousin who is also a famous psychiatrist of the city. The doctor is his friend. He checked me once again. Heart functioning had improved to 35% (55 to 60% is normal /healthy heart). He was amazed a bit. he told that his assistant can not report such a wrong figure. He can at the most do report with 2-3% of error.
Doctor reduced my tablets from 6 to 2. BP is 82/115. Pulse rate was 91. Weight reduced by 5 kg. Doctor gave the report of Normal heart functioning. No angiography was recommended. heart size reduced by 5%. He only told be to do calcium test deposit test in artery in which no calcium deposit was found.

I went to vaidya and told him the story of how doctor was amazed. Vaidya told me that when you will go next time, he will have bigger surprise. He told me to follow same diet for other 2 month and I will become absolutely normal with very healthy heart functioning. Lots of people has asked me for the address of vaidya subsequently. I will post my reports as well.
How old are you? Do you have any prior history of any medical condition like hypertension, diabetes, IHD, Stroke, etc.? Please share your reports (in PM if you are uncomfortable). What kind of surgery you had in leg? Heart function can improve 10-15% if regular medication and proper diet is followed but no way it can be totally normal. Infact the LVEF % is an eyeball reporting, it varies from cardiologist to cardiologist and also it depends on the functioning of the heart at the time of reporting, it may happen that you were under volumed during the 2D echo. I don't discourage the fact and the authenticity, I am just merely saying if you are having such heart condition, please don't ignore it and have proper healthy diet and regular medication and advisable exercise.
 

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How old are you? Do you have any prior history of any medical condition like hypertension, diabetes, IHD, Stroke, etc.? Please share your reports (in PM if you are uncomfortable). What kind of surgery you had in leg? Heart function can improve 10-15% if regular medication and proper diet is followed but no way it can be totally normal. Infact the LVEF % is an eyeball reporting, it varies from cardiologist to cardiologist and also it depends on the functioning of the heart at the time of reporting, it may happen that you were under volumed during the 2D echo. I don't discourage the fact and the authenticity, I am just merely saying if you are having such heart condition, please don't ignore it and have proper healthy diet and regular medication and advisable exercise.
I don't eat anything except barley roti and mug only once in a day. Nothing except that. I drink cow milk twice in a day. That's it. I will share my reports. I am unable to upload it because of file size above 1 mb. Are you a doctor?
 

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but no way it can be totally normal.
Vaidya said that it will become absolutely normal. Let us see. Two more months are left. My heart size reduced to 45 mm from 50 mm. I am able to feel that my muscles are getting stronger. Last Saturday, I had a long distance swimming in river without any sign of exhaustion.
 

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I don't eat anything except barley roti and mug only once in a day. Nothing except that. I drink cow milk twice in a day. That's it. I will share my reports. I am unable to upload it because of file size above 1 mb. Are you a doctor?
That's fine, you started this diet now. Yes, I'm.
 

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Can this improvement happen in one month?
Yes, it can if you are taking treatment properly. But it can't improve to normal heart. The damage which has been done can't be reversed, we can improve function of normal areas upto the mark but the damaged portion can't work and can't be improved.
 

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Vaidya said that it will become absolutely normal. Let us see. Two more months are left. My heart size reduced to 45 mm from 50 mm. I am able to feel that my muscles are getting stronger. Last Saturday, I had a long distance swimming in river without any sign of exhaustion.
If you are a swimmer, it's a good exercise, please continue normally.
 

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How old are you? Do you have any prior history of any medical condition like hypertension, diabetes, IHD, Stroke, etc.? Please share your reports (in PM if you are uncomfortable). What kind of surgery you had in leg? Heart function can improve 10-15% if regular medication and proper diet is followed but no way it can be totally normal. Infact the LVEF % is an eyeball reporting, it varies from cardiologist to cardiologist and also it depends on the functioning of the heart at the time of reporting, it may happen that you were under volumed during the 2D echo. I don't discourage the fact and the authenticity, I am just merely saying if you are having such heart condition, please don't ignore it and have proper healthy diet and regular medication and advisable exercise.
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Ventricular remodelling can be attenuated by medicines. Physiological is completely reversible, reverse remodelling in pathological conditions especially when there is early interevent are frequent.

Interesting case nonetheless but can be easily decoded.
 

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