America prefers India over Pakistan

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http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2010/04/19/america-prefers-india-over-pakistan

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By Asif Haroon Raja

Pakistan's main interest in forging ties with US in 1950s was owing to its security concerns against India five times bigger in size and resources which to this date has not reconciled to Pakistan's existence.

Pakistan remained the most allied ally of USA since 1954 whereas India remained the camp follower of Soviet Union. The US tried hard to woo India particularly after its skirmish with China in 1962 but couldn't succeed. Despite India's coldness, the Democrats in particular strove hard to induce India to jilt USSR and fall in their embrace.

When Pakistan began to get closer to China in early 1960s due to US leanings towards India, the US had expressed its displeasure. Pak-China friendship continued to blossom despite US reproaches. It was essentially because of US special liking for India that it not only refused to assist Pakistan during 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars but also punished Pakistan by way of blocking flow of war munitions knowingly that Soviet Union was meeting defence needs of India. Had the US stood by the side of its ally, Pakistan would have won 1965 war and would not have lost East Pakistan.

After fall of USSR in 1991, the US dumped Pakistan and happily hugged India, which at that time was feeling marooned. It preferred India over its old and loyal ally because India had agreed to help US in containing fast expanding influence of China in the region. Pakistan refused to perform this role because of its extra ordinary close relations with China. It had already annoyed many neighboring countries when it became part of western pacts. It had to suffer direly for acting as a conduit to bring US-China closer in 1971.

Pakistan wanted to maintain close relations with USA but not at the cost of China. China factor was one of the principal factors in cementing Indo-Soviet ties and in burgeoning Indo-US strategic relations. While the US has never objected to India signing defence and nuclear deals with Russia or cementing political, cultural and economic ties with China, or becoming the biggest buyer of Israeli arms, it frowns at Pakistan if it attempts to fulfill its military, economic or energy needs from other countries. It has all along tried to restrain Pakistan from developing closer relations with China and objected to any defence equipment acquired from Beijing.

Besides China, Iran-Pakistan friendship is another irritation for USA since current Iranian leadership is on its hit list. Pakistan has inked Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project which has not been received well in Washington. The project helps Iran in easing US diplomatic and economic pressure, which is being intensified to force Iran to give up its weapon grade nuclear ambitions. Much to the frustration of Washington, so far its pressure tactics have made no impact on Iranian leadership. Rather, US-Israeli machinations have further steeled their resolve to achieve nuclear capability at any cost.

The US has advised Pakistan to remain at a distance from Iran and scrap gas pipeline deal without realizing Pakistan's worsening state of energy crisis. Our gas needs are mounting at an alarming rate. It is estimated that by 2013-14, as against our production rate of 4 billion per cubic feet the requirement would jump to 8 billion cft per day. While pressuring Pakistan to cancel the deal, the US is not prepared to give civil nuclear facility. India opted out of Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project at the behest of USA but was rewarded in the form of civil nuclear deal.

While America is prodding Pakistan hard to befriend India and stop treating it as arch enemy, it doesn't press India to bring a change in its belligerent attitude and hegemonic policies. The US has helped India in acquiring economic, military and nuclear strengths thereby seriously disturbing regional balance of power. It has done so in disregard of the fact that India is ambitious and has dangerous designs against Pakistan. Being an apiarian country, it has constructed 62 dams over rivers flowing into Pakistan to turn its fertile lands arid. It has resorted to this immoral and inhuman practice since it is in forcible occupation of two-third Kashmir, which also enables Indian forces to encircle Pakistan. It is essentially because of sinister designs it harbors against Pakistan that it is not prepared to find an amicable solution to this chronic problem for the last six decades.

Pakistan would not have given preference to security matters over development had India believed in the policy of peaceful coexistence and promoted peace in South Asia. Pakistan would never have pursued expensive nuclear path if hegemonic India not done so in 1974. Pakistan would not have carried out nuclear tests in May 1998 had India conducted five nuclear tests and then hurled vitriolic and provocative statements. Pakistan's tit for tat response was not to overawe India but to mellow down its belligerence and to deter India from undertaking another 1971 like invasion. Pakistan would have signed NPT and CTBT had India done so and USA not taken a discriminatory stance. Pakistan made umpteen proposals in 1980s and in 1990s to make South Asia nuclear free but each offer was haughtily spurned by India.

Unresolved Kashmir dispute has kept India-Pakistan at warpath. Time has not diminished suspicions and antagonism since India has neither resolved Kashmir issue nor brought any change in its hostile attitude. In fact India has become economically sound and militarily more powerful and aggressive. It has become a strategic partner of US and latter has pledged to turn India into a major world power and permanent member of UNSC.

The Republican Party and now the Democrat Party are equally close to India and go all-out to keep it in good humor. This is evident from the lucrative economic, military and nuclear agreements doled out and the fawning attitude of each US official visiting New Delhi. It was essentially to earn India's goodwill that the US has been whipping Pakistan under various pretexts. The US is least interested in finding an amicable solution to Kashmir dispute since any facilitation in this direction will be at the cost of annoying India. The US fail to comprehend that when it talks of Indo-Pak amity, until and unless Indian occupation of Kashmir gets terminated and water aggression against Pakistan effectively checked and reversed, meaningful goodwill cannot be promoted between the two arch rivals.

Soon after occupying Afghanistan, the US gave a green signal to India to not only consolidate its position in Afghanistan but to make full use of Afghan soil to undermine Pakistan, which it had designated as a frontline state to fight and defeat terrorism. Well knowing that India does not share border with Afghanistan, is a Hindu dominated country and has played no role in war on terror, yet the US is determined to make it a key player in Afghan affairs and to let India fill the vacuum once it departs. Indian military has now been assigned to train Afghan Police and Army even after Gen Kayani expressed his strong reservations.

As long as ****** policy framed by Obama was to the advantage of India and harmful to Pakistan, Indian leaders were quite satisfied and kept making additional suggestions to make it more biting. It projected Pakistan as a collaborator and part of the problem. Now that the US has decided to take Pakistan off the hook, India is feeling highly perturbed. Had the US weapon sight been shifted from Pakistan to India, latter's worry would have been understandable. India wants Pakistan to remain a target country and is trying to befool the world that Pak armed forces aided by dreadful Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and assisted by China would trounce India.

Comparing political, economic and strategic clout of India vis-à-vis Pakistan, former has a definite edge. Other aspects which keep India in good books of western world are that it is a non-Muslim state and credits itself to be secular and champion of democracy. Above all, it projects itself as a bulwark against China.

Notwithstanding falsification of these claims and Indian gimmicks, the US led west has accorded preferential treatment to India and has been treating Pakistan as an underdog. Even under changing geo-political realities in the region in which Pakistan's significance has shot into prominence, it will be fanciful on part of our leaders to expect that the US would prefer Pakistan over India.
 

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Serious is he the author? India having better relations with the US than Pak? What a joke. By the way the 1971 invasion of Pakistan by India was really funny. Oh and non US support for Pak during the 71 war as even funnier. Wonder if the 7th fleet was in the Bay of Bengal to catch shrimps or what?

The author should also elucidate what hegemonic designs India has shown towards Pakistan. Also when did the last time India attack Pakistan? Never. So who has showed aggressive and beligerent behaviour? I mean the international community has amply made it clear to Pakistan to stop its anti India terror network. That itself shows who has been promoting hatred in the region.
 

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http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2010/04/19/america-prefers-india-over-pakistan
By Asif Haroon Raja

Pakistan's main interest in forging ties with US in 1950s was owing to its security concerns against India five times bigger in size and resources which to this date has not reconciled to Pakistan's existence.
Pakistan remained the most allied ally of USA since 1954 whereas India remained the camp follower of Soviet Union. The US tried hard to woo India particularly after its skirmish with China in 1962 but couldn't succeed. Despite India's coldness, the Democrats in particular strove hard to induce India to jilt USSR and fall in their embrace.
False. India was neutral. Too bad he doesn't have an explanation on why.

When Pakistan began to get closer to China in early 1960s due to US leanings towards India, the US had expressed its displeasure. Pak-China friendship continued to blossom despite US reproaches. It was essentially because of US special liking for India that it not only refused to assist Pakistan during 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars but also punished Pakistan by way of blocking flow of war munitions knowingly that Soviet Union was meeting defence needs of India. Had the US stood by the side of its ally, Pakistan would have won 1965 war and would not have lost East Pakistan.
No, You began to get closer to china, because China just fought a war with us.
Also, the US was your ally, because the US was providing you the equipment. NOT CHINA.

After fall of USSR in 1991, the US dumped Pakistan and happily hugged India, which at that time was feeling marooned. It preferred India over its old and loyal ally because India had agreed to help US in containing fast expanding influence of China in the region. Pakistan refused to perform this role because of its extra ordinary close relations with China. It had already annoyed many neighboring countries when it became part of western pacts. It had to suffer direly for acting as a conduit to bring US-China closer in 1971.
When did the US neglect Pakistan?
This guy needs to explain more, than just saying "happily hugged India". BS.


Pakistan wanted to maintain close relations with USA but not at the cost of China. China factor was one of the principal factors in cementing Indo-Soviet ties and in burgeoning Indo-US strategic relations. While the US has never objected to India signing defence and nuclear deals with Russia or cementing political, cultural and economic ties with China, or becoming the biggest buyer of Israeli arms, it frowns at Pakistan if it attempts to fulfill its military, economic or energy needs from other countries. It has all along tried to restrain Pakistan from developing closer relations with China and objected to any defence equipment acquired from Beijing.
First of all, The United States is no one to tell the Soviet Union, not to sell INDIA weapons.
Secondly, the US didn't stop you. You didn't buy from other countries because you were a poor country. China didn't offer to sell your arms either until later times.

Besides China, Iran-Pakistan friendship is another irritation for USA since current Iranian leadership is on its hit list. Pakistan has inked Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project which has not been received well in Washington. The project helps Iran in easing US diplomatic and economic pressure, which is being intensified to force Iran to give up its weapon grade nuclear ambitions. Much to the frustration of Washington, so far its pressure tactics have made no impact on Iranian leadership. Rather, US-Israeli machinations have further steeled their resolve to achieve nuclear capability at any cost.
The US has advised Pakistan to remain at a distance from Iran and scrap gas pipeline deal without realizing Pakistan's worsening state of energy crisis. Our gas needs are mounting at an alarming rate. It is estimated that by 2013-14, as against our production rate of 4 billion per cubic feet the requirement would jump to 8 billion cft per day. While pressuring Pakistan to cancel the deal, the US is not prepared to give civil nuclear facility. India opted out of Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project at the behest of USA but was rewarded in the form of civil nuclear deal.
No, that isn't why India got the Nuclear deal. Not because we stepped out of the Gas Pipeline project. Could you prove to me how?

While America is prodding Pakistan hard to befriend India and stop treating it as arch enemy, it doesn't press India to bring a change in its belligerent attitude and hegemonic policies. The US has helped India in acquiring economic, military and nuclear strengths thereby seriously disturbing regional balance of power. It has done so in disregard of the fact that India is ambitious and has dangerous designs against Pakistan. Being an apiarian country, it has constructed 62 dams over rivers flowing into Pakistan to turn its fertile lands arid. It has resorted to this immoral and inhuman practice since it is in forcible occupation of two-third Kashmir, which also enables Indian forces to encircle Pakistan. It is essentially because of sinister designs it harbors against Pakistan that it is not prepared to find an amicable solution to this chronic problem for the last six decades.
"Belligerent attitude and hegemonic policies" are the result of your terrorism in our country. And you starting 3 wars with us. Whose fault is that?

Pakistan would not have given preference to security matters over development had India believed in the policy of peaceful coexistence and promoted peace in South Asia. Pakistan would never have pursued expensive nuclear path if hegemonic India not done so in 1974. Pakistan would not have carried out nuclear tests in May 1998 had India conducted five nuclear tests and then hurled vitriolic and provocative statements. Pakistan's tit for tat response was not to overawe India but to mellow down its belligerence and to deter India from undertaking another 1971 like invasion. Pakistan would have signed NPT and CTBT had India done so and USA not taken a discriminatory stance. Pakistan made umpteen proposals in 1980s and in 1990s to make South Asia nuclear free but each offer was haughtily spurned by India.
Yes, Pakistan will eat grass to get nukes, famous phrase, we all know.
Rada Rada Rada...
Keep blaming India for your poverty, for your valid reason to support terrorists too..

Unresolved Kashmir dispute has kept India-Pakistan at warpath. Time has not diminished suspicions and antagonism since India has neither resolved Kashmir issue nor brought any change in its hostile attitude. In fact India has become economically sound and militarily more powerful and aggressive. It has become a strategic partner of US and latter has pledged to turn India into a major world power and permanent member of UNSC.
Hostile attitude my a$$. Again, who started the 3 wars, and who are you calling the aggressive one?


The Republican Party and now the Democrat Party are equally close to India and go all-out to keep it in good humor. This is evident from the lucrative economic, military and nuclear agreements doled out and the fawning attitude of each US official visiting New Delhi. It was essentially to earn India's goodwill that the US has been whipping Pakistan under various pretexts. The US is least interested in finding an amicable solution to Kashmir dispute since any facilitation in this direction will be at the cost of annoying India. The US fail to comprehend that when it talks of Indo-Pak amity, until and unless Indian occupation of Kashmir gets terminated and water aggression against Pakistan effectively checked and reversed, meaningful goodwill cannot be promoted between the two arch rivals.
Wrong.
Pakistani Occupation of our Kashmir needs to end.

Soon after occupying Afghanistan, the US gave a green signal to India to not only consolidate its position in Afghanistan but to make full use of Afghan soil to undermine Pakistan, which it had designated as a frontline state to fight and defeat terrorism. Well knowing that India does not share border with Afghanistan, is a Hindu dominated country and has played no role in war on terror, yet the US is determined to make it a key player in Afghan affairs and to let India fill the vacuum once it departs. Indian military has now been assigned to train Afghan Police and Army even after Gen Kayani expressed his strong reservations.
US didn't give us anything. We went in and are helping the afghans. The govt let us there, because we aren't being selfish like Pakistan. India is genuinely trying to re-build Afghan.

As long as ****** policy framed by Obama was to the advantage of India and harmful to Pakistan, Indian leaders were quite satisfied and kept making additional suggestions to make it more biting. It projected Pakistan as a collaborator and part of the problem. Now that the US has decided to take Pakistan off the hook, India is feeling highly perturbed. Had the US weapon sight been shifted from Pakistan to India, latter's worry would have been understandable. India wants Pakistan to remain a target country and is trying to befool the world that Pak armed forces aided by dreadful Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and assisted by China would trounce India.
Very true. And the reason Obama treats India higher than Pakistan, is because your government is pathetic. Cheap, arrogant, stupid. And supported terrorists. But unfortunately he has to give more aid to Pakistan and focus there more than India :(
 

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Yep, the only reason India still survives is because of US support to India.

-US gives massives aids to India. Link.
-US gives many military equipments to India for free. Link.
-US ignores the blatant nuclear Walmart that India has setup. Link.

So, obviously, US prefers India over Pakistan and is doing everything to ensure that India does not implode lest Pakistan becomes the dominant power of the region.

BTW, we all remember how US helped India in 1971, otherwise Pakistan would have finished off India. Here is what wiki says:

The United States supported Pakistan both politically and materially. President Nixon and his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger feared Soviet expansion into South and Southeast Asia. Pakistan was a close ally of the People's Republic of China, with whom Nixon had been negotiating a rapprochement and where he intended to visit in February 1972. Nixon feared that an Indian invasion of West Pakistan would mean total Soviet domination of the region, and that it would seriously undermine the global position of the United States and the regional position of America's new tacit ally, China. In order to demonstrate to China the bona fides of the United States as an ally, and in direct violation of the US Congress-imposed sanctions on Pakistan, Nixon sent military supplies to Pakistan, routing them through Jordan and Iran, while also encouraging China to increase its arms supplies to Pakistan. The Nixon administration also ignored reports it received of the "genocidal" activities of the Pakistani Army in East Pakistan, most notably the Blood telegram. This prompted widespread criticism and condemnation both by Congress and in the international press.

When Pakistan's defeat in the eastern sector seemed certain, Nixon ordered the USS Enterprise into the Bay of Bengal. The Enterprise arrived on station on 11 December 1971. It has been documented that Nixon even persuaded Iran and Jordan to send their F-86, F-104 and F-5 fighter jets in aid of Pakistan. On 6 December and 13 December, the Soviet Navy dispatched two groups of ships and a submarine, armed with nuclear missiles, from Vladivostok; they trailed U.S. Task Force 74 into the Indian Ocean from 18 December 1971 until 7 January 1972. The Soviets also had a nuclear submarine to help ward off the threat posed by USS Enterprise task force in the Indian Ocean.
 

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Yep, the only reason India still survives is because of US support to India.

-US gives massives aids to India. Link.
-US gives many military equipments to India for free. Link.
-US ignores the blatant nuclear Walmart that India has setup. Link.

So, obviously, US prefers India over Pakistan and is doing everything to ensure that India does not implode lest Pakistan becomes the dominant power of the region.

BTW, we all remember how US helped India in 1971, otherwise Pakistan would have finished off India. Here is what wiki says:
Man..good thing we finished the war b4 US arrived ...

Imagine if the war have extended...would we see a clash b/w US and soviet navies ?
 

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would not have happened. I dont think the US and soviet navies would have fought in the bay of bengal. Remember they always fought proxy wars, never got involved directly.
 

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1 In 1950's as is the case today the biggest irritant for the Americans was the fiercely independent foreign policy India pursued, which made sure they tilted to Pakistan and Pakistan which has no concept of sovereignty from day one of its independence hooked up to Americans to save their ass from being whipped by India. Even today the foreign policy and internal policy of Pakistan are framed in Washington, Riyadh and Beijing.

2 pakistan leaned towards china not because of any American tilt towards India but they understood the concept, enemy's enemy can be made a friend and they did it for their own good. Americans were always hostile to us it is just this decade there has been a change in their attitude.

3 during 65 and 71 both India and Pakistan were sanctioned by the Americans, and hey what happened to the chinese, some call them all weather friends, they never turned up. guess what, they are way smarter than any Pakistani can sum them up.

4 pakistan is an ally which bites the same hand that feeds them so who will trust them? not so long back, in fact a few weeks back there was this huge anti Americanism all over Pakistan, but since that strategic meet has happened which was attented by kayani the hostile attitude has changed and now there is no hostile attitude towards the Americans, and why? Yes a decent enough bone was thrown at him and so his proxies in pak media have shut their mouth.

5 americans will object to any thing that pak does which is contrary to their interests since quite literally the Pakistanis survive thanks to the Americans. Had the Americans not been there Pakistan today would have been a bankrupt state, so start listening to what your masters tell you be it on china or iran.

6 india is today where it is because of the hard work on the Indians in our private sector and not because of the Americans, yes Pakistanis tend to live in fantasy world and tend to believe that is because of Americans since they have their little success all owed to the Americans but sadly my friend from pak that is not the case with India, we have fait in our abilities!

7 india never violated the Indus water treaty, and Pakistan is in no position to take it up with the international bodies. It's a rhetoric for domestic audience to keep away from all the ills committed and the fools fall in the trap.

8 if Pakistan does not develop it self and concentrates purely on military, then I seriously have no probs at all, on the contrary it's a thumbs up from my side. This was reason Bangladesh was formed and I am sure there are more to come thanks to this policy.

9 kashmir is a non issue, as simple as that!

10 americans want Indians, be it the democrats and republicans, its about need and interests, so what if we make sure that in bargain our interests are also met, well unlike Pakistan, where the politicians and dictators just think of themselves and not about the nation they are supposed to serve.

11 india will be in a'stan irrespective of the Americans, and they have been told about it in absolutely clear and blunt words. If not the Americans there are Russians, Iranians and other CAR nations who are ready to work it out with us for we have shared interests.

12 is the author trying to convince PA and pak state are not behind LeT? Oh yes they are the non state actors, how ironic!

13 if I am not mistaken India today houses the second or the third largest muslim population churning few of the brightest in the community.

This is an article high on rhetoric and very-very low on substance!
 

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13 if I am not mistaken India today houses the second or the third largest muslim population churning few of the brightest in the community.
When George Bush saw Manmohan Singh, at some event; First time he had the opportinity to introduce his wife (Laura Bush) to Manmohan Singh. He said to her,

"Honey, This is the Prime Minister of India. This is the country that has 150 million Muslims and not one member of Al-Qaeda"
"D
You don't hear that about other muslims. ;)
 

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There is only one guiding rule in International relations- Self interest. For years successive US Govts. supported Dictators in Latin America, Africa and even Pakistan because it suited their interest. For decades Indian and US interests were never on the converging path so there was a distance. Now due to the economic boom in India, the incestuous relationship of the establishment in Pakistan with the Jehadi groups, US and Indian interests are converging, hence the closeness and the raft of deals being signed.

This is one lesson sometimes even our leaders forget when they cry hoarse over US weapon supplies to Pakistan.
 

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I have to agree with sob here. The guiding principle is its own self interest and not to "develop" either pakistan or india. The Bush administration was pro-india. However, the current obama administration looks like it is pro-pakistan, with its increasingly pro-pakistan stance in afghanistan. The most recent instance is .. when the US snubbed Indian PM when US Vice President Joe Biden did not invite India, a founding member of the NAM, to a luncheon meeting he hosted. The problem with indian leaders is that they are more interested in filling their pockets than they are in progressing our nation.

The US has supported dictators and warlords across the world when it suited them, it has also changed regimes when the policies did not suit them. The US has no friends, only interests - This is true for most "developed" nations. We are yet to learn this.

Please see this article which shows the guiding principle of america
 
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A book called ' confessions of an economic hit man' is a good read. Its relevant to the US interests and its proxy support for dictators etc.
 

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