AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

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Koreans are determined, nationalist and hardworking people especially their establishment what they think they execute it
The day is not far when they could exceed us in space domain and we will be saying few of my defeatist words
Why do I find habitual offenders. Who are quick to mock India at any thread be it Economy or Special Forces or Space or Aerospace.

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Dont think India follows western doctrine , TVC is part of our doctrine with heavy jamming and CCM and BVR>
Here from Mouth of Horse [Klimov]
 

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I doubt AMCA will ever get any sort of TVC Capability and lastly from my POV, there is no need of AMCA to have TVC Capability.

It will be more like F-35 style than SU-57/F-22 style.
Not its not , its will be 2.2Mach capable fighter , a perfect balance between stealth and aerodynamics ,
F35 is stealth only bad Aerodynamics ,
So designer are more inspired by F22 Raptor than F35 , look at wings and early inlate ,F22 is definately inspired AMCA designer, it will have TVC in final version.
 

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Sorry bro
But couldn't find anywhere that gtre collaborating for tvc
From India with memorandum

Klimov JSC (part of the United Engine Corporation) took part in the international air show Aero India 2015 in Bangalore, India. At the exhibition, Klimov JSC showcased the latest high-tech civil product samples and the popular military engines, including the RD-33MK aircraft engine (installed on the MiG-29K/KUB) and new modification of VK-2500 engine for medium helicopters type MI-28N, KA-52, MI-24/35, MI-8MT/MI-17 and theirs modifications. Klimov JSC and Rosoboronexport negotiated with Indian War Research Agency DRDО where the parties signed the memorandum on their performance of design works of vectorable nozzle for the Indian designed engine.

 

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From India with memorandum

Klimov JSC (part of the United Engine Corporation) took part in the international air show Aero India 2015 in Bangalore, India. At the exhibition, Klimov JSC showcased the latest high-tech civil product samples and the popular military engines, including the RD-33MK aircraft engine (installed on the MiG-29K/KUB) and new modification of VK-2500 engine for medium helicopters type MI-28N, KA-52, MI-24/35, MI-8MT/MI-17 and theirs modifications. Klimov JSC and Rosoboronexport negotiated with Indian War Research Agency DRDО where the parties signed the memorandum on their performance of design works of vectorable nozzle for the Indian designed engine.

From 2015 .. Nothing came of this memorandum.
 

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Not its not , its will be 2.2Mach capable fighter , a perfect balance between stealth and aerodynamics ,
F35 is stealth only bad Aerodynamics ,
So designer are more inspired by F22 Raptor than F35 , look at wings and early inlate ,F22 is definately inspired AMCA designer, it will have TVC in final version.
Your source is IDRW, this is not a trustworthy source. Trust me, AMCA will most probably not possess any kind of TVC.

And AMCA's design if you observe is more inspired by F-35 JSF. I don't see how the AMCA Looks any way similar to F-22's design.

See this :

This is design of F-35A.
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And this is latest design of AMCA :
amca (1).jpg


See how the latest design of AMCA has similar wing design, similar front nose section design, similar vertical Stabilizer design and also intake design? This shows it is more inspired from F-35 than F-22.

And BTW Why do you want AMCA to have thrust vectoring control in the 1st place? It's irrelevant for it to have it and being a 5th Stealth generation fighter, it should not have it and it doesn't suit IAF's doctrine. TVC is good for only dodging missiles and WVR Dogfights. Any 5th generation fighter which is being designed to be quite Stealth will always want to avoid getting into a dogfight.
 

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In balakot , they out maneuvered and jammed AIM120 AMRAAM with TVC , same happened where SU35 out manuvered AIM 120 of Turkey in Syria
This incident happened after Balakot when PAF launched operation "Swift Retreat" in retaliation to Balakot Airstrikes by IAF. AIM-120s were evaded due to many factors, Dodging was not the only one AFAIK, SU-30 MKIs also used Israeli jammers to evade them. AIM-120s were also fired from a far range and hence could never hit SU-30.
 

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In balakot , they out maneuvered and jammed AIM120 AMRAAM with TVC , same happened where SU35 out manuvered AIM 120 of Turkey in Syria
When did Turkey ever fire an AIM-120 missile at an SU-35? There is no mention of any such incident on Google.
 

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