AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Killbot]

Aircrafts being orders now can be expected to see 35-40 years of service.

12 fighters

 

[Bleh]

12 fighters

They just delivered the last batch. Its was a 22 year long induction process.

 

[Akula]

They just delivered the last batch. Its was a 22 year long induction process.

And I think Airforce will upgrade only those Su-30mki's which were inducted after 2005.

 

[FalconSlayers]

@Bleh I feel that ADA is in fact going for a Distributed Aperture System for AMCA, why? See this...

The backward vision of pilot will be restricted due to the cockpit shape in back, hence how will a pilot face backwards and see the bandits if the cockpit restricts backward vision? DAS!!!

 

[Bleh]

@Bleh I feel that ADA is in fact going for a Distributed Aperture System for AMCA, why? See this...
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The backward vision of pilot will be restricted due to the cockpit shape in back, hence how will a pilot face backwards and see the bandits if the cockpit restricts backward vision? DAS!!!

I don't know... Possible, but equally unlikely.

Su-30 cockpit has no backwards view either. It's got no DAS. We have no DAS displayed yet on AMCA Mark1.

And I think Airforce will upgrade only those Su-30mki's which were inducted after 2005.

I read something like that somewhere, but 2010... Less than 50 inducted before 2005. What's the point. Won't even save much money.

Anything official tho?

 

[FalconSlayers]

I don't know... Possible, but equally unlikely.

Su-30 cockpit has no backwards view either. It's got no DAS. We have no DAS displayed yet on AMCA Mark1.

Many Su-30MKI of IAF have DRDO DCMAWS.

 

[Killbot]

People here won't argue with u because of ur stupid antics and that have made u think ur half knowledge is right. Use brain dude. Good to know from where u draw ur inspiration.

Uhhh, he kinda backed you up there, unless I'm missing something. @Bleh?

 

[Ghost hale]

Dude, airframe life of a plane with an aluminum frame won't be 50 years. One thing is for certain, it will be more of a fiasco than MiG-21 if MKIs are retained for that long.

Who is 'they'? Who mentioned that MKI will last until 2060?
@Bleh

Lockheed says it can double F-16's service life, but will have to compete for opportunity

The U.S. Air Force appears to be breathing new life into its fleet of F-16s, with plans for upgrades and structural work inching forward.

www.defensenews.com

Just for example... Structural life can be improved.

 

[Bleh]

Uhhh, he kinda backed you up there, unless I'm missing something. @Bleh?

Nah, he's (probably) right... Twitterati will need some time getting used to word of their Godfathers being questioned.

Chap was definitely not a lurker on DFI.

 

[Ghost hale]

Nah, he's (probably) right... Twitterati will need some time getting used to word of their Godfathers being questioned.

Chap was definitely not a lurker on DFI.

ADA brochure image were uploaded by that twitter user and not opinion. But i forgot u know more than ADA.
One more thing don't create misconceptions. I said astra mk1 cant be included in amca because of its dimensions not that astra series itself won't be placed.future missiles are to be developed which can be used with IWB.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

@Bleh I feel that ADA is in fact going for a Distributed Aperture System for AMCA, why? See this...
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The backward vision of pilot will be restricted due to the cockpit shape in back, hence how will a pilot face backwards and see the bandits if the cockpit restricts backward vision? DAS!!!

I don't see it sensible either that a pilot will physically turn his neck at such high speeds? Isn't it?

 

[Ghost hale]

I don't see it sensible either that a pilot will physically turn his neck at such high speeds? Isn't it?

Su30 MKI have 4 point DCMAWS and AMCA is planned for all 6 points which will be improved ones.

 

[Bleh]

I happens to have that ADA brochure, child. Recieved from the same person he got it from. Two pdfs I shared in the Aero India thread here, you can download for yourself if you want.

I said astra mk1 cant be included in amca because of its dimensions...

And like your other claims, this remains wrong... Astra Mark1 was repeatedly displayed on ADAs's own renders in AMCA internal bay, multiple times.

And if you make claims like "future missiles are going to be developed" you have to atleast name which missile project & an official source for that info.

 

[Ghost hale]

I happens to have that ADA brochure, child. Recieved from the same person he got it from. Two pdfs I shared in the Aero India thread here, you can download of you want.



And like your other claims, that remains wrong... Astra Mark1 was repeatedly displayed on ADAs's own renders in AMCA internal bay, multiple times.
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And if you make claims like "future missiles are going to be developed" you have to atleast name which missile project & an official source for that info.

This is from ADA brochure in aero india 2021. External pylon have Astra MK1 type model. IWB have separate model. There was back news also that Astra MK1 cant be placed in IWB because of dimensions so sperate iterations will be developed. No missile was named so how am i supposed to create name for it. The info which was available i mentioned. I am not sure what is so bizzare that u can't comprehend it. AMCA is planned for 2030. For all practical reasons better astra iterations will be available by then.

 

[Shekhar Singh]

I happens to have that ADA brochure, child. Recieved from the same person he got it from. Two pdfs I shared in the Aero India thread here, you can download for yourself if you want.



And like your other claims, this remains wrong... Astra Mark1 was repeatedly displayed on ADAs's own renders in AMCA internal bay, multiple times.
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And if you make claims like "future missiles are going to be developed" you have to atleast name which missile project & an official source for that info.

Can twin racks for WVRs/BVRs be accommodated in the IWB? Also, wouldn't it be better to carry something like 2 ASRAAM along with ground package than BVR?

Astra mk1 will go in internal bay, may be Astra mk2 also if increase in length will be less than 300mm. Don't ask me for source as I don't have this time.

 

[Bleh]

Astra mk1 will go in internal bay, may be Astra mk2 also if increase in length will be less than 300mm. Don't ask me for source as I don't have this time.

Oh yes. If the longer Mark2 can fit, the Mark1 definitely will. Although SFDR may be operational by the time AMCA enter production.

Frustratingly, I have failed to find its dimensions of the internal bays.

 

[Lonewolf]

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Oh yes. If the longer Mark2 can fit, the Mark1 definitely will. Although SFDR may be operational by the time AMCA enter production.

Frustratingly, I have failed to find the dimensions of the internal bays.

Isn't the scaling process helping , try to comapre ratio of aircraft lenght to iwb in comparison to what ratio is in image , you will get a fair enough comparison

 

[FalconSlayers]

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Oh yes. If the longer Mark2 can fit, the Mark1 definitely will. Although SFDR may be operational by the time AMCA enter production.

Frustratingly, I have failed to find its dimensions of the internal bays.

Can you tell me the differences between IRST, DAS and EOTS?

 

[Lonewolf]

Can you tell me the differences between IRST, DAS and EOTS?

ALL are situational awareness system , Irst is a search and track system functional in IR band , DAS is just a combination of sensor which cover a volume around your plane , like rwr , maws , irst type sensor all working together in sensor fusion unlike irst which are generally forward mounted .

EOTS are generally for long range search and tracking but conformal giving less signature and different bandwidth

 

[Lonewolf]

@FalconSlayers seems like you have developed a new interest in fighters and avionics.