AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Bleh]

...he could be talking about "mockup" and not prototype, but are mockups made using metal?

Howwever they are building/alread built a 1:1 scaled model which is undergoing RCS measurements/validation in Orange facility in Hyderabaad.

Yes, I too think what you say is right. They wont put tgat RCS testing 1:1 (or atleast unlikely to) so, it'll probably just be a dummy mock-up... Like these Tejas.

 

[Shirman]

Has the design freezed and finalized for a full scale mockup. There were reports that VEM Technologies were about to showcase AMCA full scale static display at upcoming Aero India 21 airshow. One advice to ADA and HAL display team is that also show Ghatak Stealth UAV and HAL wingman side by side with AMCA full scale model for that 5.5th Gen fighter full spectrum net centric mission display. Will surely grab more eyeballs during airshow worth remembering

 

[Bleh]

Has the design freezed and finalized for a full scale mockup. There were reports that VEM Technologies were about to showcase AMCA full scale static display at upcoming Aero India 21 airshow. One advice to ADA and HAL display team is that also show Ghatak Stealth UAV and HAL wingman side by side with AMCA full scale model for that 5.5th Gen fighter full spectrum net centric mission display. Will surely grab more eyeballs during airshow worth remembering

Overall exterior design enough to make a mockup has existed for a while now... the final operational version may have minor differences.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

HAL and ADA should develop and fly a full scale model as early as possible even without internal bay and weapons it will also change the perception about PSUs and India in the world perception matters in today’s world Chinese so called Fifth Generation aircrafts are not stealth at all still they fly it show off and get the media attention

 

[Emperor Kalki]

Yes, I too think what you say is right. They wont put tgat RCS testing 1:1 (or atleast unlikely to) so, it'll probably just be a dummy mock-up... Like these Tejas.View attachment 52667

Ooh look....a tejas fitted with a mini aerostat.......must be for additional lift and theoretically, could also improve stall speed ........it even has its own air intake....

 

[Akula]

HAL and ADA should develop and fly a full scale model as early as possible even without internal bay and weapons it will also change the perception about PSUs and India in the world perception matters in today’s world Chinese so called Fifth Generation aircrafts are not stealth at all still they fly it show off and get the media attention

Even Turkey and S.Korea have shown their 5th gen fighter mockups.

 

[ARVION]

Even Turkey and S.Korea have shown their 5th gen fighter mockups.

Dont even talk about the TAI TFX, it is a design nightmare, and at current stage only a wooden mock up's

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Even Turkey and S.Korea have shown their 5th gen fighter mockups.

Yes it was just a model not even flying they know how to get Media attention in today’s world of Information warfare perception matters

 

[ARVION]

Yes it was just a model not even flying they know how to get Media attention in today’s world of Information warfare perception matters

Well showing mock up is good, but shouldn't go the TAI TFX way.

 

[Akula]

Yes it was just a model not even flying they know how to get Media attention in today’s world of Information warfare perception matters

Even DRDO should show a complete package (weapons+avionics) which they are developing for MWF and Amca.

 

[ARVION]

Even DRDO should show a complete package (weapons+avionics) which they are developing for MWF and Amca.

Well if shown along with the Wing man would be a good option's.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

ADA should also showcase their future plans. The colour scheme,3d models should be made available on Internet aggressive advertisement like SAAB does for swedish griepen and Lockheed Martin does for their F35 and other aircrafts should be done they should hire some experts specifically for this purpose only. Lockheed Martin advertises their 40 years old F16 like it’s the latest aircraft in USAF inventory

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

India and Rolls Royce are ready to sign deal for 110kn engine development with india having the Intellectual Property rights

 

[Super lca]

Dont even talk about the TAI TFX, it is a design nightmare, and at current stage only a wooden mock up's

How is it a design nightmare can u plz elaborate?

 

[ARVION]

How is it a design nightmare can u plz elaborate?

Air intake it's air intake are a major problem, and they need to first need to select a engine which I can hardly seen getting appropriate engine to it anytime soon's.

 

[Super lca]

Air intake it's air intake are a major problem, and they need to first need to select a engine which I can hardly seen getting appropriate engine to it anytime soon's.

Doesn't it have a f22 like intake?As per my knowledge p&w f110 or ge f414 is to be selected?

 

[ARVION]

Doesn't it have a f22 like intake?As per my knowledge p&w f110 or ge f414 is to be selected?

In current scenario it is not possible to get hands on F 414 and as per the F 110 they have been producing the older model not the newer variant's. And about the air intake it's not similar to F 22's it shape is more retculangar and smaller literally smaller and if they had a DSI's then it will unable to pull enough air without changing the design's. The air inatkenis placed in such a particular way that it may hurt the enough supply of air during low speed flight's.

 

[airtel]

Doesn't it have a f22 like intake?As per my knowledge p&w f110 or ge f414 is to be selected?

USA is not going to support them .


They were in talks with Rolls-Royce , but their deal was unsuccessful .
They can not make it without support of Europe and they will not get European support as long as they are creating troubles for Europeans and Christians.

 

[Super lca]

In current scenario it is not possible to get hands on F 414 and as per the F 110 they have been producing the older model not the newer variant's. And about the air intake it's not similar to F 22's it shape is more retculangar and smaller literally smaller and if they had a DSI's then it will unable to pull enough air without changing the design's. The air inatkenis placed in such a particular way that it may hurt the enough supply of air during low speed flight's.

Can amca with dsi face similar problems?

 

[ARVION]

Can amca with dsi face similar problems?

Yes until we redesign or dont use's DSI's, it's reduces the perfomane at low speed and top seed is reduced's look at J 20's another victim's read my post on J 20's thread's.