AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

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Lol some su30 are already with strategic force command. And why do you think we spend so much effort to lug world fattest cruise missile to su30.

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No they are not. Don't be delusional only m2k and jaguar are meant for nuclear delivery roles as of now. Rafale will be next. No brahmos missiles have been mated with nuclear warhead.
 

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No they are not. Don't be delusional only m2k and jaguar are meant for nuclear delivery roles as of now. Rafale will be next. No brahmos missiles have been mated with nuclear warhead.
Ok . I Know what I know . You know what you know.
BTW french themselves use cruise missile with nuke warheads with rafale. Hehe
 

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Theory of Invisibility”: Scientists Develop the General Principles of New Level Stealth Technologies.

An international team of scientists from NUST MISIS, Scientific and Technological Center of Unique Instrumentation of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Polytechnic University of Turin (Italy) have developed an “invisibility theory”: principles that will allow objects to pass radar signals through, without “giving out” the location. At the same time, due to the reduction in the amount of material for stealth coating, the cost of such disguise will be significantly lower.

When detecting an object using radar, a wave signal is being sent to it, and the location of the object is being determined based on the reflected wave. Modern stealth technologies methods are aimed at ensuring that the wave reflected from the object is absorbed by the stealth coating, minimizing the response to the radar. However, the coating alone is not capable of reducing this response to zero due to a combination of factors: surface geometry, high speed of movement, progressive highly sensitive location methods, and the inefficiency of stealth coating absorption.

An international team of scientists from NUST MISIS and the Polytechnic University of Turin (Italy), in the framework of cooperation on the ANASTASIA project, have proposed a fundamentally new version of stealth coating, which will allow the radar signal directed to the object not to be reflected, not absorbed, but simply to pass through, as if there is no object at all. This method of disguise is based not on creating a stealth coating, but on changing the configuration of the entire system of the object.

“The stealth coating used today is far from being perfect. Such a coating is expensive, and for more efficient operation it needs the most even surface. As a result, in airplanes, for example, you have to sacrifice the aerodynamic characteristics of the device. At the same time, the absorbed signal still creates a ‘shadow’, i.e. a small response that can be detected by more advanced location systems. The task of our team was to ‘teach’ the objects not to reflect the signal, but to let it pass through thanks to the excitation of the special state of electromagnetic fields,” comments Alexey Basharin, project leader from NUST MISIS.

According to the developed theory, the electric moment excited in the system when the radar signal hits it is compensated by the toroidal moment. This effect can be achieved by the use of a metamaterial, i.e. a material with an artificially created periodic structure. However, there are also other dipole moments that arise both in the object to be hidden and in the coating. And it was not entirely clear how to hide such systems.

“The invisibility of the object was predicted by the Devaney-Wolfe theorems. We, in turn, have developed this idea for dipole moments, which form the response of a stealth object like bricks, and have developed a generalized invisibility theorem for them and have turned it into a mathematical model,” adds Alexey Basharin.

It is noteworthy that the technology can be applied to objects of any size: not only for large military equipment but also for micro- and nanoscale electronics. In the future, the team plans to expand the model to compensate not only for the electric moment but also for the magnetic one. This will be relevant, for example, to stabilize quantum dots in open resonators.



AMCA MK3 Should consider complete stealth by using this tech
 

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Detailed design of GEs next generation ADVENT engine completed in early 2019 . If we stick with GE , we can ask for this engine , if we failed to develop it Indigenously .

A downgrade version of ADVENT still be very advanced than Chinese and Russian engines
 

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J 20 has nothing in it which is 5th generation. It has a very poor engine, big RCS. MKIs detected it from hundred plus kilometres away. it has very poor weapons. it has poor electronics which are not even match to their counterparts of 4 generation planes. It is just advertised as fifth generation and that's it.
Every Stealth fighter operates with what is called luneburg lens during peacetime operations to hide its true profile from hostile radars. It’s standard practice since the development of Stealth fighter jet.
Don’t act like Nehru othwise 62 will be repeated once again.
 
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AMCA will come , and will be a 5+ generation Aircraft .Basic Technologies are already developed , We are using composites in Tejas , we developed AESA Radar , we developed GaN modules , we developed Top-quality EW suites , we developed EOTS like system , Tejas Fly By Wire is one of the most advanced Fly by wire system , AMCA probably will have fly by light . Sensor fusion is mainly depends on the Software front we are pretty good in Software development and we already developed fusion software for UGVs etc .

The only problem is support from IAF and Government plus a great planning and will
TBH I’m sceptical about this AMCA thing. I mean we don’t have any experience whatsoever in designing a good solid medium weight fighter like mcdonnell douglas, Grumman or LM had with their countless plateforms or sukhoi okb had with Su27/30/35 etc.
Even Chinese have a lot more experience than us with their copied/stolen designs like J14 , J15 etc.
we don’t have anything as a base platform to experience aerodynamic complexities during the development of a conventional design fighter let alone a stealth design.

That is why I think MWF and ORCA/TE-DBF is very very essential before thinking about designing a proper stealth jet. Although semi stealth design like KAI-KF X can also be considered. But we should not have high expectations. Let it be gradual step by step or Block building process. We don’t have time ,like LCA this time.
 
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Every Stealth fighter operates with what is called luneburg lens during peacetime operations to hide its true profile from hostile radars. It’s standard practice since the development of Stealth fighter jet.
Don’t act like Nehru othwise 62 will be repeated once again.
I don't why people aren't understand the very basic thing of a stealth fighter flight in peace time.
 
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Because we don’t have any exposure to concept of Stealth. Most people think that all it takes is a F22 lookalike structure.
Its common sense what we lack in many instances, plaaf even rejected su57 in favor j20. The j20 has never offered to Pakistan, the china's puppet/deeper than ocean friend. We should have analyse the situation, j20 is not a dud as we think.
 

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Its common sense what we lack in many instances, plaaf even rejected su57 in favor j20. The j20 has never offered to Pakistan, the china's puppet/deeper than ocean friend. We should have analyse the situation, j20 is not a dud as we think.
It may or may not be. Let’s prepare for the worst. Step one is developing quantum radar to nullify whatever advantage they have.
 
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The NEW Avtar !! nice work by Kuntal ... Again !!



am not sure its official ... still DSI looking good
Yeh it’s official because it is posted by a random YTber. Just like what is called Azab/Gazab paki fanboys have :facepalm:.
Geese we are giving tough times to paki delusional momins.
 

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It may or may not be. Let’s prepare for the worst. Stem one is developing quantum radar to nullify whatever advantage they have.
Yeah, just like how americans designed their f15. They have overestimated the mig25's capability and designed f15 to counter it.
 

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Grumman or LM had with their countless plateforms or sukhoi okb had with Su27/30/35 etc.
Even Chinese have a lot more experience than us with their copied/stolen designs like J14 , J15 etc.
we don’t have anything as a base platform to experience aerodynamic complexities during the development of a conventional design fighter let alone a stealth design.
Asia's one of the finest Jet design was build in india off course with the help of Kurt Tank.
Second HAL tejas indias indigenous tried and tested design from airframe to everything it's designed in india it's delta design is quite modern.

Compared to that Chinese haven't designed anything on their own They have sukhoi copies and F-16 Israeli modified copies so how does Chinese have more experience than india?
 

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Asia's one of the finest Jet design was build in india off course with the help of Kurt Tank.
Second HAL tejas indias indigenous tried and tested design from airframe to everything it's designed in india it's delta design is quite modern. Compared to that Chinese haven't designed anything on their own They have sukhoi copies and F-16 Israeli modified copies.
What about j20 then? Does it have any similarities with su27 or f16
 

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