AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Karthi]

This is a proposed(DRDO) Fabricated frustum conformal antenna primarily for Missile's but this tech can be used in AMCA and other Aircraft's as smart skin , Aircraft body itself can be act as a Radar , obviously it will make Aircraft complex and Costly.

 

[Steven Rogers]

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This is a proposed(DRDO) Fabricated frustum conformal antenna primarily for Missile's but this tech can be used in AMCA and other Aircraft's as smart skin , Aircraft body itself can be act as a Radar , obviously it will make Aircraft complex and Costly.

This is from 2018 DRDO/DEFENCE SCIENCE JOURNAL.

 

[Karthi]

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This is from 2018 DRDO/DEFENCE SCIENCE JOURNAL.

So..................................???? I knew it and most of the DFI members knew it , but this tech can be used in various platforms , the paper is based on true research . And just reverse search will help you to find these things and are you trying to be very smart, thats really childish

 

[Craigs]

most of these mighty Pvt chetoos sellers do that including there God Kalyani.... these Pvt chetoos sellers and there tattu's in establishment make millions and billions for themselves and there looser kids enjoying comfortable life abroad.... Rest are given 24*7 Hindu Muslim , and Chanda in name of wages, jobs and employment.
haramkhors make sure state enterprises either don't work or develope or anything, and if they do make sure to make them go public like they did or are doing with HAL and others ---- I am 100% sure whole establishment is compromised from top to bottom.

OFB/PSU leechers go one above. They do it without giving credit. Any original thing coming out of OFB/PSU?

 

[south block]

OFB/PSU leechers go one above. They do it without giving credit. Any original thing coming out of OFB/PSU?

So what original thing coming out of chetoos sellers hain!

 

[Steven Rogers]

So..................................???? I knew it and most of the DFI members knew it , but this tech can be used in various platforms , the paper is based on true research . And just reverse search will help you to find these things and are you trying to be very smart, thats really childish

Did I said anything about the photo you posted or the post you made, I only uploaded the original source....-_-

 

[AbRaj]

OFB/PSU leechers go one above. They do it without giving credit. Any original thing coming out of OFB/PSU?

Haven’t you heard that the Pimp factory Kolkata is manufacturing the abominations known lovingly among fanboys as INSAS/Amogh/Excalibur and producing Barrel busting shells. They are indeed inventing newer ways to kill Indian soldiers.
Only somehow we can transfer these pimp factory worked to Pakistan. We can win the war without even fighting.
BTW Anyone know the most common side business of Babus working there? LOL

 

[Craigs]

So what original thing coming out of chetoos sellers hain!

Have you been living under a rock the past 6 months? Or quarantining yourself without any news?

 

[south block]

Have you been living under a rock the past 6 months? Or quarantining yourself without any news?

Why don't you tell me then Hain!

 

[Craigs]

Why don't you tell me then Hain!

Why don't you answer my question first?

 

[Bleh]

They do it without giving credit. Any original thing coming out of OFB/PSU?

China has showed that they dont need to give credit nor have anything original comecome out, as long as it works and meets requirements.

Why is OFB/Insas being discussed in this thread anyway?

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

India’s first and probably only 5.5 Generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program currently underway, is now heading towards final design phase with many key notable changes in the design which is now nearing completion and now features new 3D Diverterless Supersonic Inlet (DSI) compared to a conventional intake sported in earlier scale and graphic rendering of the AMCA. While exact radar cross-section (RCS) of AMCA will be classified, further RCS reduction measures have been carried out which full fills all the concept of stealth but its the next generation homegrown avionics and electronics including its gen-next weapons and ability to be used as a manned, unmanned, stealth and non-stealth modes which make it more lethal then current 5th generation fighter jets. DRDO Chief and seniors have often refused to compare AMCA with other 5th generation fighter jets developed by other countries in the past, but idrw.org has been informed that AMCA Mk2 will be better than Chinese J-20 and J-31 Stealth fighter jets and comparable to the American F-35. Technological benchmark being set by both developers and operators is to develop a jet that is as capable as an F-35A in stealth and much more in avionics and other technology. Once the design has been frozen, a full-scale model of the AMCA will be developed by VEM Technologies which will be used to measure RCS measurements at the outdoor Radar Cross Section (RCS) Test facility of DRDO at Chitradurga be the end of this year and the final design will be showcased for the first time by the end or in early 2021. Diverterless Supersonic Inlet (DSI) is also being planned for upcoming MWF-MK2 and TEDBF/ORCA programs, while it skips Tejas Mk1 and Tejas Mk1A due to negligible benefits. DRDO also has developed new Radar observant paint for the AMCA program which will also be used on the MWF-MK2 and TEDBF/ORCA programs.

http://idrw.org/amca-final-design-f...on-measures-to-make-it-first-5-5-gen-fighter/ .

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Imagine MKI with Photonic Radar and Meteor which can detect F22 at 150 Km and can launch Meteor in a salvo . It's not the generation but the Capabilities of the sensor's and Weapons matters thats why IAF chief said Rafles 4+ gen is enough to counter J20 5th generation

J 20 has nothing in it which is 5th generation. It has a very poor engine, big RCS. MKIs detected it from hundred plus kilometres away. it has very poor weapons. it has poor electronics which are not even match to their counterparts of 4 generation planes. It is just advertised as fifth generation and that's it.

 

[Karthi]

W

J 20 has nothing in it which is 5th generation. It has a very poor engine, big RCS. MKIs detected it from hundred plus kilometres away. it has very poor weapons. it has poor electronics which are not even match to their counterparts of 4 generation planes. It is just advertised as fifth generation and that's it.

The main thing for deployment of any thing is Money China has a lot of money and facilities , we should not underestimate J20 it's stealthy , agile and good Avionics , if it is capable of Atleast 75 Percentage of F35 that's enough . They produce it in large numbers and quantity is also quality

 

[scatterStorm]

India’s first and probably only 5.5 Generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program currently underway

Nope, not happening. We are not even close to 5th Gen in AMCA.

Once the design has been frozen, a full-scale model of the AMCA will be developed by VEM Technologies which will be used to measure RCS measurements at the outdoor Radar Cross Section (RCS) Test facility of DRDO at Chitradurga be the end of this year

Not happening, due to china virus.

Diverterless Supersonic Inlet (DSI) is also being planned for upcoming MWF-MK2 and TEDBF/ORCA programs, while it skips Tejas Mk1 and Tejas Mk1A due to negligible benefit.

Why are we doing a classic mistake of developing different jets for every arm. Granted, Navy wants a jet that works at sea, but why this ORCA BS. Not happening, it will be scraped for good, when they realize "ismey kharchey bhoto hongey".

AMCA is still a pipe dream, take KFX, it took them 25 years to come to this and shit ton of money. Productions will hit I believe in 2026.

Pehley Tejas MK2 banao, do a drone with stealth tech than realize the tech at much larger scale in AMCA. Else not happening very soon. Expect production to hit by the end of this decade or even more.

 

[dude00720]

Nope, not happening. We are not even close to 5th Gen in AMCA.
Pehley Tejas MK2 banao, do a drone with stealth tech than realize the tech at much larger scale in AMCA. Else not happening very soon. Expect production to hit by the end of this decade or even more.

It requires Maturity to understand concepts of building complex systems. If your suggestion is followed, then, we will have AMCA 50 YEARS Later.

In complex systems, resusability of existing and borrowed technology is a big thing. No big company works on one product at a time.

 

[dude00720]

Cockpit, sensor fusion, mission systems, sensors etc are from AMCA R&D. From day 1, it'll be production standard. So anything that's on prototype, will be in the production variants. and used in Tejas Mk2 or MWF

 

[scatterStorm]

It requires Maturity to understand concepts of building complex systems. If your suggestion is followed, then, we will have AMCA 50 YEARS Later.

In complex systems, resusability of existing and borrowed technology is a big thing. No big company works on one product at a time.

I did said, realizing technologies adapted in MK2 [MWF] and Drones.

What you can achieve with MK2 [MWF]?
Sensor fusion, redundant sensor suite, you can have DAS, which was already achievable with MKIs but Murica pulled the plug.

What you can achieve with AURA program?
IWB drop tanks and DSI in drone too. Conformal Antennas, Sensor fusion, super cruise, you can test drone swarm as it's basically pilotless, you can test RAM coating.

Why did Dassault did Neuron First, why USAF chose a B52 or F117 Nighthawk first?
These systems provided the means to realize those electronics onboard, provided redundancy, correcting inefficiencies and the then ATF happened, by todays timeline its 22 years. F22 radar absorbent paint still chips off, so does F35. We gotta long way bro.

Now, 50 years that highly exaggerated, never said that... close to 12 years, if they can produce a FOC within 10 years (highly unlikely as its best case scenario) than sure we can cut some cookie. Somebody mentioned first prototype in 2023, now add +2 years to that because China virus happened.

 

[Karthi]

Nope, not happening. We are not even close to 5th Gen in AMCA.


Not happening, due to china virus.


Why are we doing a classic mistake of developing different jets for every arm. Granted, Navy wants a jet that works at sea, but why this ORCA BS. Not happening, it will be scraped for good, when they realize "ismey kharchey bhoto hongey".

AMCA is still a pipe dream, take KFX, it took them 25 years to come to this and shit ton of money. Productions will hit I believe in 2026.

Pehley Tejas MK2 banao, do a drone with stealth tech than realize the tech at much larger scale in AMCA. Else not happening very soon. Expect production to hit by the end of this decade or even more.

AMCA will come , and will be a 5+ generation Aircraft .Basic Technologies are already developed , We are using composites in Tejas , we developed AESA Radar , we developed GaN modules , we developed Top-quality EW suites , we developed EOTS like system , Tejas Fly By Wire is one of the most advanced Fly by wire system , AMCA probably will have fly by light . Sensor fusion is mainly depends on the Software front we are pretty good in Software development and we already developed fusion software for UGVs etc .

The only problem is support from IAF and Government plus a great planning and will

 

[Ajax01]

we developed EOTS like system

Which one? ===================================================