Al-Khalid MBT And Pakistani Armour

[farhan_9909]

Don`t you people learn lessons ?

Remember 1971, Crown jewel of PA Armour : Patton stuck in Punjab paddy fields with fine 106mm holes at there side turrets..

RIP to the crew..

And what you learnt from history?

I am sure you must remember the battle of chwinda.the 2nd largest tank battle to happen in the world.And those dozens of indian tanks turned into scrap by the PA armour corps

@Can the thread name be changed to Pakistani Main battle tanks so that we can even post about t-80ud and the rest of pakistani tanks in this thread apart from al khalid

 

[Kunal Biswas]

You got my point ... :cool2:

As long as you people in high dose of over confidence, Its only benefit us, Keep up the boosting..

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Nope cant do, It will effect the whole thread, Continue discussion..

And what you learnt from history?

I am sure you must remember the battle of chwinda.the 2nd largest tank battle to happen in the world.And those dozens of indian tanks turned into scrap by the PA armour corps

@Can the thread name be changed to Pakistani Main battle tanks so that we can even post about t-80ud and the rest of pakistani tanks in this thread apart from al khalid

 

[Dazzler]

NATO AP rounds penetrate 500-520 mm?



Arjun has a way larger armour cavity than your respected T-80UD. Kanchan should outclass base T-80UD armour easily along with 4S22 Kontackt-5 used on the T-80UD.

First and foremost, this thread has sofar been a fine AK thread but some annoying posts seem to be an attempt to ruin it.

So you yourself has accepted that Arjun is superior in protection to Al-Khalid. (Just kidding.)

@Keshav

man i didnt expect you to be so naive about the T-80ud after what you have read about it on another forum.



With a rifled gun and reduced barrel life of just 500 EFC due to plenty of wear and tear when APFSDS are fired and a reduced muzzle velocity which is a inherited flaw of a rifled cannon, not to mention the APFSDS IA CURRENTY uses, theres is no chance of penetrating AK front on let alone with Aorak ERA. This is just a plain fact because AK has composite cover between 650-700 mm estimate.

I hope you know the T-80ud is not the usual soviet style composite turret but has ukrainian layered composite amrour in it so....
@militarysta @methos @Akim @Andrei_bt can shed some light on this

Now this is in answer to those queries presented on last two pages. For Arjun discusion please see the Arjun thread.

Thanks

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

Loading speed in autoloaders depends also how far to feeding chute is cassette with projectile and propelant charge. If such full cassette is closer to feeding chute, loading is faster, if further then loading is slower.

@Damian

But isnt this the area where a bi-irectional carousel movement helps?

 

[farhan_9909]

Seems like a roughly used AK

t-80ud

 

[Dazzler]

wow excellent pics @farhan_9909

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

we put them through rrigours surely...

T-80uds passing through river..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Is this your work ? why not show just the original ..

t-80ud

 

[Damian]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

@Damian

But isnt this the area where a bi-irectional carousel movement helps?

To some point yes it helps, but not completely.

 

[Damian]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

Looks like photoshop...

 

[farhan_9909]

Is this your work ? why not show just the original ..

Pakistan army official page Facebook.

they are the only source of azm e nau 4 exercise new images

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Who runs it ? That image is a Photoshopped ..

Pakistan army official page Facebook.

 

[farhan_9909]

Who runs it ? That image is a Photoshopped ..

i am not sure,though the image look Photoshop

but they are the only source of latest pics which we havent seen in the past.

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

UD during summer trials in Pakistan

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

notice ERA blocks on glacis armour on both tanks, can anyone tell me which one is K-5 and which is Nozh

T-80UD

T-84

here is K-5

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

Nizh developed to pull off Pakistani tank deal

[Khytryk] The project to develop an explosive reactive armour system that is now known as Nizh (Knife) was launched in 1997-98 as part of an effort to supply a consignment of T-80UD tanks under a contract with Pakistan. Russia, in the person of the Moscow-based Scientific Research Institute of Steel had reservations about that contract, saying the tanks being supplied to Pakistan were equipped with an ERA system one of whose elements, the 4C22, was of Russian design. For that system the Russian side demanded a huge sum in royalties that would equal almost 10 per cent of the entire contract value. By that time Ukraine had accumulated enough ideas of its own. So a decision was taken to create an explosive reactive armour system that would be of entirely Ukrainian design. To order from the Defence Ministry of Ukraine and in partnership with the Morozov design bureau in Kharkiv (who in fact came out as customers in that project), a fundamentally new ERA system had been developed within a very short period of time. In 2003, by the defence minister's decree, the ERA system that we designed was commissioned and commercialized by a factory near Kiev.

Article: Designer praises Ukrainian tank protection system. | AccessMyLibrary - Promoting library advocacy

 

[Dazzler]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

some rare but nice closeups...

 

[Andrei_bt]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

notice ERA blocks on glacis armour on both tanks, can anyone tell me which one is K-5 and which is Nozh

No Nozh armor on pakistani T-80UD tanks.

 

[Damian]

Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

"Knife" ERA cassettes installed on T-80UD/T-84 would look like this:

You can see that hull ERA modules are more flat, and cassettes on turret are smaller.