Al-Khalid MBT And Pakistani Armour

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Interesting post..
Ok..the chances of these tanks going against each other in the battle-field are very low. So keep it civil and no need to troll...

Note : Blue highlight = Advantage over the other tank

Weight :

Al Khalid-1 : 48 tons
Merkava IV : 65 tons.

Speed :

Al Khalid-1 : 72 km/h
Merkava IV : 64 km/h

Main Armament :

Al Khalid-1 : 125 mm smooth bore gun
Merkava IV : 120 mm smooth bore gun

Payload Capacity :

Al Khalid-1 : 49 rounds
Merkava IV : 48 rounds

Engine :

Al Khalid-1 : KMDB 6TD-2 6-cylinder diesel 1,200 hp (with upgrade)
Merkava IV : General Dynamics GD883 (MTU883) diesel 1,500 hp

Power/Weight :

Al Khalid-1 : 26 hp/tonne
Merkava IV : 23 hp/tonne

Armour :

Al Khalid-1 : Composite armour, RHA, ERA
Merkava IV : Composite matrix of laminated ceramic-steel-nickel alloy, ERA etc

Operational Range :

Al Khalid-1 : 500 km
Merkava IV : 500 km

Protection :

Al Khalid-1 : VARTA active protection system
Merkava IV : TROPHY active protection system

ATGMs :

Al Khalid-1 : Kombat , 9M119 Refleks (AT-11 Sniper) etc
Merkava IV : LAHAT

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Feel free to point out any mistakes I made.

Al Khalid-1 is right up there with latest Merkava IV , with Merkava having a slight edge due to superior electronics etc.

Israel is producing Merkava since 1970's , while Pakistan started to produce Al Khalid much later. So it is great to see Pakistan producing tanks as capable as Al Khalid-1 :cheers:

Al Khalid-1 edges Merkava IV in firepower and mobility..while Merkava IV has better armor and protection system (Israelis are obsessed with soldiers' protection).

Have your say...

PS : There is alot of talk about which ATGM is superior...LAHAT or Kombat. Both ATGMs have their own advantages over the other...so lets keep it that way. This is why I didn't high-light any of the tank in ATGM category.
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Lol, who so ever has posted this has no knowledge about tanks.

Markava can take out targets at 6-8 km that too in non line of sight, which means target can be painted by others while Markava will only launch its LAHAT missile from hidden or without exposing itself to target. Now if Al Khalid has to launch 9M119 Refleks (AT-11 Sniper) which has range of only 5 km it has to constantly focus its laser to the target till the missile reach its point of impact, which means that target can also see Al Khalid at same range.

Al Khalid has crew of three members only, while Markava 4 has crew of 4 and 10 fully armed soldiers as passengers (means it can also act as ACP)

engine on the Markava 4 is at the front while in Al Khalid has at the back. Trophy auto loader is standard equipment on Markava 4, only few pics with Alkhalid with VARTA active protection system was shown, so it is not even standard equipment, plus it does not take out enemy IR anti tank, on the other hand Trophy take out anti tank weapon.

weight of the Markava is due to heavily armor, light armor is on Al Khalid. Markava has all round protection.

ammo capacity, i dont have to comment since Makrava 4 can take additional 10 fully armed passengers.

Plus it has option of auto loader


I am not even talking about its BMS, it is most advance system available.

I can go on and on but it is useless with madarsa educated guys.



this pic shows why its weight is low and what quality of material is used for tank, just look at the skirt of tank :rofl:.
 

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its originally a chinese tank. forget about the quality, the fact that it is moving is in itself a miracle.
So is the arjun than

German(thanks to lala krauss)

(running because of german made tracks),,

i wonder how a country who claims can manufacture a indigenous tank cant manufacture alone the tracks
 

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Al khalid=Pakistan

mbt-2000=morocco and Bangladesh
I salute your patriotism but the truth is a bit different. even your knowledge about Arjun is wrong. I do not wish to take up argument with you as we have saying in brahmins, bewkoof ko samjhana aur akalmand ko naa samjhana, galat hota hai.
 

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I salute your patriotism but the truth is a bit different. even your knowledge about Arjun is wrong. I do not wish to take up argument with you as we have saying in brahmins, bewkoof ko samjhana aur akalmand ko naa samjhana, galat hota hai.
nothing such as patriotism.bt blended truth
*though your even wrong at the quote.since that is in urdu nt brahmins
 

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nothing such as patriotism.bt blended truth
*though your even wrong at the quote.since that is in urdu nt brahmins
If I had quoted Sanskrit here, most of the members wud not have understood so I quoted its Traslation which is hindi as per me and urdu as per you. But in North India we mostly speak a mix of hindi and urdu.
 

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This is no Arjun thread..

Arjun run on L&T made tracks not German and there are no proof of German involvement either..

Stick to the topic..

So is the arjun than

German(thanks to lala krauss)

(running because of german made tracks),,

i wonder how a country who claims can manufacture a indigenous tank cant manufacture alone the tracks
 

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Gents lets just talk about topic of this thread..

Thank you..
 

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Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

Pakistan and China To Jointly Manufacture New Version Of Al-Khalid Tank

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 17:10 CET



Pakistan and China today signed a contract to manufacture a version of the jointly developed Al-Khalid-I tanks.
First developed in the 1990's, the tank was introduced in 2001 with the new version equipped with has improved capability and systems.
The contract was signed by Pakistan's Heavy Industries Taxila and China's NORINCO at the Ministry of Defence Production.The joint marketing of the Al-Khalid tank with China would open up potential markets, the statement said.

China, Pakistan To Manufacture New Version Of Al-Khalid Tanks : Defense news


Al-Khalid II will be the upgraded variant of AK-1.
 

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re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

this makes sense

because Al khalid I is already developed and mass produced variant was also revealed in feb 2010

al khalid I prototype(notice the thickened side skirts) picture from 2008



Al khalid I mass produced one..picture from feb 2010



 

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re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

Can some one post the specifications of Al-Khalid II and how it is different from Al-Khalid I and also what is the armour protection levels and the ammunition going to be used.
 

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re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

Can some one post the specifications of Al-Khalid II and how it is different from Al-Khalid I and also what is the armour protection levels and the ammunition going to be used.
Al khalid II major known specs

*1500hp engine(ukranian 6td series)
*medium weight tank
*redesigned turret
*upgraded armour..protection level is unknown and might remain so forever.


Note:as per unofficial sources the initial prototype of ak2 had a weight between 52-54t
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

*1500hp engine(ukranian 6td series)
Allready avaiable version of 6TD that produces such power? I though Ukrainians are still far from fielding it.
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

Allready avaiable version of 6TD that produces such power? I though Ukrainians are still far from fielding it.
yess i guess 6td-4/5....there was one chart in pdf.saw long back in def.pk
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

Al khalid II major known specs

*1500hp engine(ukranian 6td series)
*medium weight tank
*redesigned turret
*upgraded armour..protection level is unknown and might remain so forever.


Note:as per unofficial sources the initial prototype of ak2 had a weight between 52-54t
So, armour protection is a secret - so no one knows if its good enough or not.

And what kind of ammunition can it fire?.
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

And what kind of ammunition can it fire?.
APFSDS, HEAT, HE/HEF and GLATGM, as any tank armed with family of 125mm guns based on 2A46M.
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

So, armour protection is a secret - so no one knows if its good enough or not.

And what kind of ammunition can it fire?.
atleast we wont know.consdering the history of both pak and china

And ammunition query answered by Damian
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

*-1500HP Engine
* 125 MM With New Advanced auto loader/Stabilized gun [Pakistan Made by HIT]
* Highly sophisticated, Thermal,Night Vision, Infrared target acquisition suite, jointly developed with ASELSAN [Turkey]
* New advanced,Integrated Battle Management System (IBMS) Jointly developed by ASELSAN/HAVELSAN & GIDS
* New active threat-protection system, upgrade from a "passive" one.
* It will be, one of the most heavily weaponized per tonnage of any tank in the world,being able to carry 49 125mm rounds, 1,500 12.7mm and 7,100 7.62mm rounds
* HEAT and APFSDS (Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot)
* Re designed Turret
* NBC protection.

In, other words every bit rival to Indian FMBT/T-90S
 

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Re: Al-Khalid 2 Main Battle Tank

Nowhere in the link there's mention of "Al-Khalid II" :pound:
Bloody Liars :laugh:

*-1500HP Engine
* 125 MM With New Advanced auto loader/Stabilized gun [Pakistan Made by HIT]
* Highly sophisticated, Thermal,Night Vision, Infrared target acquisition suite, jointly developed with ASELSAN [Turkey]
* New advanced,Integrated Battle Management System (IBMS) Jointly developed by ASELSAN/HAVELSAN & GIDS
* New active threat-protection system, upgrade from a "passive" one.
* It will be, one of the most heavily weaponized per tonnage of any tank in the world,being able to carry 49 125mm rounds, 1,500 12.7mm and 7,100 7.62mm rounds
* HEAT and APFSDS (Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot)
* Re designed Turret
* NBC protection.
From where did you got these specifications ? :wat:
Insider Info ? :rofl:
 

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