AK 203 production start soon in India

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We are close to year end 2022. Has the promised start of production of AK 203 anywhere close to starting? This production is eagerly awaited. Anybody has any idea of the factory startup, please post it here. In addition, about 70,000 of the rifles were to arrive from Russia all ready made. Has this happened or the Russia U.S. too busy in Ukraine has forgotten about this contract…… We do want to know about the progress.
 

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We are close to year end 2022. Has the promised start of production of AK 203 anywhere close to starting? This production is eagerly awaited. Anybody has any idea of the factory startup, please post it here. In addition, about 70,000 of the rifles were to arrive from Russia all ready made. Has this happened or the Russia U.S. too busy in Ukraine has forgotten about this contract…… We do want to know about the progress.
At def expo news was it will start in December
 

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We are close to year end 2022. Has the promised start of production of AK 203 anywhere close to starting? This production is eagerly awaited. Anybody has any idea of the factory startup, please post it here. In addition, about 70,000 of the rifles were to arrive from Russia all ready made. Has this happened or the Russia U.S. too busy in Ukraine has forgotten about this contract…… We do want to know about the progress.
The question needs to be asked here is "Why the fuck AK203 was chosen in the first place?" Haven't our dalals had enough of Russian military gear? There is a home grown company known as SSS defense. Why not give contract to them? If they get deals they will improve their products over a period of time and be major player in defense arena. But no, our suvvars always want that imported mal.

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They have a complete line up of rifles. The 2nd or 3rd one from left is what our army is looking for if I am right. Couldn't they selected one of them shown here? I read we even went for Finnish Sako for snipers. If they are purchased in fewer numbers it's okay. Do those fucking babus and dalals who wear uniforms seriously giving a thought about giving contracts to SSS defense?
 

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The question needs to be asked here is "Why the fuck AK203 was chosen in the first place?" Haven't our dalals had enough of Russian military gear? There is a home grown company known as SSS defense. Why not give contract to them? If they get deals they will improve their products over a period of time and be major player in defense arena. But no, our suvvars always want that imported mal.

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They have a complete line up of rifles. The 2nd or 3rd one from left is what our army is looking for if I am right. Couldn't they selected one of them shown here? I read we even went for Finnish Sako for snipers. If they are purchased in fewer numbers it's okay. Do those fucking babus and dalals who wear uniforms seriously giving a thought about giving contracts to SSS defense?

Diplomatic Pressure. Second these guns are not field tested fully. So, Army will not touch. Also Mindset of Army is important. If they really want to save money in useless IPR. We can call them and do a comprehensive evaluation and then select a Guns.

But this will never be going to be happen because our Army lacks vision.
 

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The question needs to be asked here is "Why the fuck AK203 was chosen in the first place?" Haven't our dalals had enough of Russian military gear? There is a home grown company known as SSS defense. Why not give contract to them? If they get deals they will improve their products over a period of time and be major player in defense arena. But no, our suvvars always want that imported mal.

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They have a complete line up of rifles. The 2nd or 3rd one from left is what our army is looking for if I am right. Couldn't they selected one of them shown here? I read we even went for Finnish Sako for snipers. If they are purchased in fewer numbers it's okay. Do those fucking babus and dalals who wear uniforms seriously giving a thought about giving contracts to SSS defense?
A good answer to your stupid question is that Ak-203 is the best rifle, most liked by the Indian troops and only Russia willing to set up a manufacturing plant in India. Later allow it to export after 5 years.

Even AR-15 manufacturers in US had acknowledged that AK series rifle are better anyday.
 

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The question needs to be asked here is "Why the fuck AK203 was chosen in the first place?" Haven't our dalals had enough of Russian military gear? There is a home grown company known as SSS defense. Why not give contract to them? If they get deals they will improve their products over a period of time and be major player in defense arena. But no, our suvvars always want that imported mal.

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They have a complete line up of rifles. The 2nd or 3rd one from left is what our army is looking for if I am right. Couldn't they selected one of them shown here? I read we even went for Finnish Sako for snipers. If they are purchased in fewer numbers it's okay. Do those fucking babus and dalals who wear uniforms seriously giving a thought about giving contracts to SSS defense?
sss defence p 72 is really unproves probably why, the ar 15 is pretty nice and chances are they have a high chance of winning that carbine if they go in,of course that's when i dont include chandigarh lobby, army likely wanted something front liners will be familiar with which is ak 203 , they likely reviewed ak 12 and ak 15 and realized that it has the shittiest furniture(loads of news about that not holding zero or having shit mode toggle thing, on the optimistic side of things if we trained our troops to get used to the recoil it'll feel like some ar 15 round and add some magnifier and some red dot boom will be nice to use in cqb to medium ranges
 

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A good answer to your stupid question is that Ak-203 is the best rifle, most liked by the Indian troops and only Russia willing to set up a manufacturing plant in India. Later allow it to export after 5 years.

Even AR-15 manufacturers in US had acknowledged that AK series rifle are better anyday.

Till we are paying royalty for a gun when we can manufacture the same clones in OFB. This is just pure political decision. Recent years clearly shown that Private players if properly engaged can manufacture faster with better Quality control. If we put some effort, we can take our existing AK clones like TAR and manufacture it with Private partners. Even IPR of AR 15 are free now. AK's have 100's of variation. But still why we need to setup a factory and pay some royalty to Russians. If ARDE can come with a decent 5.56x45 mm Carbine, then they can come with 7.62x39mm gun also.
 

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Till we are paying royalty for a gun when we can manufacture the same clones in OFB. This is just pure political decision. Recent years clearly shown that Private players if properly engaged can manufacture faster with better Quality control. If we put some effort, we can take our existing AK clones like TAR and manufacture it with Private partners. Even IPR of AR 15 are free now. AK's have 100's of variation. But still why we need to setup a factory and pay some royalty to Russians. If ARDE can come with a decent 5.56x45 mm Carbine, then they can come with 7.62x39mm gun also.
Are we paying royalty? AFAIK it was the main reason for all this delay, that we were refusing to pay it. Id read that the russians waived it in the end.
 

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source if you can
Dont remember where I read it, but this is the first result for "AK203 royalty fee"

 

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Till we are paying royalty for a gun when we can manufacture the same clones in OFB. This is just pure political decision. Recent years clearly shown that Private players if properly engaged can manufacture faster with better Quality control. If we put some effort, we can take our existing AK clones like TAR and manufacture it with Private partners. Even IPR of AR 15 are free now. AK's have 100's of variation. But still why we need to setup a factory and pay some royalty to Russians. If ARDE can come with a decent 5.56x45 mm Carbine, then they can come with 7.62x39mm gun also.
‘As the post by Swordofdarkness said above; the royalty part has been eliminated from the deal. It delayed the project execution by 2 or 3 years.
 

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