Ajit Doval

[Love Charger]

I still believe our real enemy is pakistan , what we must understand that it's very easy to push paki Punjab into lawlessness , as the writ of the state in indian history has always been in the eastern or southern parts , as most prosperous and powerful kingdoms arose from these regions .
Punjab was a lawless land target of marudering afgans when mughal authority crumbled .
The tlp folks showed that lawlessness still pervades in paki punjab .
We need to make our punjabi , especially sikhs hate pakistan.
Plus we only requiere the sikhs and aman ki asha types know the truth and reality of pakis , the hatred they have for us , half of the job will be done there .
Fir dekhna how punjabis start hating pakis again.
Don't open the kartarpur border though.

 

[Love Charger]

Ask yourself who needs that. Do you think there is anyone who thinks war is a good thing and that we should have a war every 5 years or so?

People are already afraid and wary of a war and its costs. In such a situation, instead of repeating the obvious and strengthening misgivings, people must be inspired to fight and prepare for a war.

Actually , his speech should have avoided this part of external warfare , or he should have told about the bad effects of war in milder terms .

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Actually , his speech should have avoided this part of external warfare , or he should have told about the bad effects of war in milder terms .

Perhaps we may be giving too much attention to this anyway. I just hope when the time comes, we will see our leaders prepare the public directly and allay their fears.

 

[Op Kahuta]

Ask yourself who needs that. Do you think there is anyone who thinks war is a good thing and that we should have a war every 5 years or so?

People are already afraid and wary of a war and its costs. In such a situation, instead of repeating the obvious and strengthening misgivings, people must be inspired to fight and prepare for a war.

You are saying it as if our people never seen war. We have a strong resume with positive results when it comes to war except 1962 but it was a political failure at large. People are already supportive and positive at large that any more of chene armed conflict will result in war. But it's a different thing to be prepared for a possible nuclear war and most are not ready for it. I am sure we will hear it from top guys when the time comes. For time now let's not ask questions abt doval's speech and have faith in his work.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

You are saying it as if our people never seen war. We have a strong resume with positive results when it comes to war except 1962 but it was a political failure at large. People are already supportive and positive at large that any more of chene armed conflict will result in war. But it's a different thing to be prepared for a possible nuclear war and most are not ready for it. I am sure we will hear it from top guys when the time comes. For time now let's not ask questions abt doval's speech and have faith in his work.

This discussion is kinda becoming tiresome now, so I am going to discontinue this here, and hopefully all of us will be satisfied with whatever happens in the future

 

[Op Kahuta]

This discussion is kinda becoming tiresome now, so I am going to discontinue this here, and hopefully all of us will be satisfied with whatever happens in the future

Exactly. Forget I said anything.

 

[The Shrike]

Or is it the case that Doval is saying, the adversary instead of spending huge cash on military wars, they will focus on subverting our civil society, and prevention of that subversion also comes under IPS purview ?

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"Instead of" - wether our adversaries are spending on military capability is a matter of fact. Facts which Doval being NSA should have a good idea about (I hope).

 

[ezsasa]

"Instead of" - wether our adversaries are spending on military capability is a matter of fact. Facts which Doval being NSA should have a good idea about (I hope).

Military capability and War strategy are two different things..

Our western neighbour has 9 billion $ defence budget

and sends these folks

But our civil society is subverted like this

Our northern neighbour has 209 billion $ military budget

and sends these folks to us..

Meanwhile attempts being made to subvert our civil society like this

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Military capability and War strategy are two different things..

Our western neighbour has 9 billion $ defence budget

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and sends these folks

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But our civil society is subverted like this

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Our northern neighbour has 209 billion $ military budget

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and sends these folks to us..

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Meanwhile attempts being made to subvert our civil society like this

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The only anti dote to such subversion of the society is rooting the country in DHARMA : The well organized philosophical injections. Deracination is at the root of all problems and tackling that is essential if everything that’s valuable to the Bharatiya and Hindu civilization is to be saved. We have seen federalism promoting dangerous movements such as the insurgency being witnessed in Kashmir and North East among other regions. In fact constant whining against nationalism is being waged using the smokescreen of federalism. Clearly federalism is nothing more than fraud in the name of liberty.

 

[Tshering22]

I still believe our real enemy is pakistan , what we must understand that it's very easy to push paki Punjab into lawlessness , as the writ of the state in indian history has always been in the eastern or southern parts , as most prosperous and powerful kingdoms arose from these regions .
Punjab was a lawless land target of marudering afgans when mughal authority crumbled .
The tlp folks showed that lawlessness still pervades in paki punjab .
We need to make our punjabi , especially sikhs hate pakistan.
Plus we only requiere the sikhs and aman ki asha types know the truth and reality of pakis , the hatred they have for us , half of the job will be done there .
Fir dekhna how punjabis start hating pakis again.
Don't open the kartarpur border though.

Really? After all that has happened in the last 4 years?

Pakistan is dead; it's remnants are nothing more than CCP's extensions. That country survives on CCP funding and businesses operating from there. The real threat is China. AD needs to focus his full attention on sabotaging the CCP and MSS and develop a multi-pronged Tibet Action Plan (TAP) for the forces.

Without a TAP, our forces will just be doing traditional reactive ROEs. TAP needs to be a plan that allows our forces to enter Tibet for proactive assaults and takedown PLA frontline bases in small teams. Without a plan to target these as well as a detailed plan to spread the results of these attacks en masse inside China by bypassing the FIREWALL is the only way.

CCP's power exists because it controls the information - but when the masses know that their government is losing in conflicts as well as lying to them about everything, they will become a valuable 0.5 front from within. Remember that CCP needs more militarization inside China to retain its control than against us or the Japanese.

 

[AMCA]

 

[Covfefe]

One of these SFJ clowns must be eliminated in the UK as a clear message to the govt there- bilateral relations don't work while one side is actively fomenting snakes for the other partner.

 

[Op Kahuta]

One of these SFJ clowns must be eliminated in the UK as a clear message to the govt there- bilateral relations don't work while one side is actively fomenting snakes for the other partner.

I love the fact that he is our NSA and that modi hear him out and acts on his decision. This is exactly what we need our PM to do with pak and china and anyone who threatens our national security. This aggressiveness will surely be beneficial for us in long run. And same should be said and done in trudeau's backyard to make that sonvabitch hear us loud and clear.

 

[JBH22]

Soviet Union was taken down without a war. Just leaving it here for the record.

This madness stopped because people in Russia were fed up. Don't fall for the west propaganda that afghan war caused its downfall. The soviet planned economy was a flawed system which sucked money out of Russia to feed all sort of leechers.

 

[Tshering22]

One of these SFJ clowns must be eliminated in the UK as a clear message to the govt there- bilateral relations don't work while one side is actively fomenting snakes for the other partner.

Doval does seem pissed. This is the most direct way someone so senior in GOI has addressed the UK. However, talking alone won't do.

You see, while the Conservatives have become friendlier to us over the last few years since David Cameron stormed in, you need to know that given their politics, they will never completely weaken their connection with Pakistan and by extension, Khalistan.

These elements offer some sort of political leverage to London that they have been using for years. There are many family members of these Khalistanis in India that can be used to get things done for UK if the ties between our two countries deteriorate.

That's how the MI6 & Global Elitist deep state plans.

We need to have a hot-and-cold approach to deal with this. Diplomacy is not going to get the results; if we show our anger, their government will only arrest some Khalistanis as a token of appeasement while asking the rest to lay low for a while. Once the matter leaves GOI's attention, then they will be allowed to resurface.

We need to start doing what Mossad and the CCP do;

1) Getting into the UK and hunting these scum down.
2) Triggering sectarian feuds between them (yes, they are very divisive within, much like Islam)
3) Launch large-scale cyberattacks on bank accounts of SFJ, BKI, Dal Khalsa, Khalsa Aid, etc. that operate as 'charity or 'community organizations by serving some token langar but hiding their nefarious agenda. This will weaken their finances.

All these groups are just fronts to continue anti-Indian activity from the UK and USA.

The USA even allows the unfurling of the so-called Khali flag (the blue and yellow one) on its soil.

The US must be also addressed. The UK might be the weak link but we must make sure that our concerns are addressed. Or collectively have a PLAN B.

 

[FalconZero]

Doval does seem pissed. This is the most direct way someone so senior in GOI has addressed the UK. However, talking alone won't do.

You see, while the Conservatives have become friendlier to us over the last few years since David Cameron stormed in, you need to know that given their politics, they will never completely weaken their connection with Pakistan and by extension, Khalistan.

These elements offer some sort of political leverage to London that they have been using for years. There are many family members of these Khalistanis in India that can be used to get things done for UK if the ties between our two countries deteriorate.

That's how the MI6 & Global Elitist deep state plans.

We need to have a hot-and-cold approach to deal with this. Diplomacy is not going to get the results; if we show our anger, their government will only arrest some Khalistanis as a token of appeasement while asking the rest to lay low for a while. Once the matter leaves GOI's attention, then they will be allowed to resurface.

We need to start doing what Mossad and the CCP do;

1) Getting into the UK and hunting these scum down.
2) Triggering sectarian feuds between them (yes, they are very divisive within, much like Islam)
3) Launch large-scale cyberattacks on bank accounts of SFJ, BKI, Dal Khalsa, Khalsa Aid, etc. that operate as 'charity or 'community organizations by serving some token langar but hiding their nefarious agenda. This will weaken their finances.

All these groups are just fronts to continue anti-Indian activity from the UK and USA.

The USA even allows the unfurling of the so-called Khali flag (the blue and yellow one) on its soil.

The US must be also addressed. The UK might be the weak link but we must make sure that our concerns are addressed. Or collectively have a PLAN B.

The slightly opposite view, if the recent 'referendums are any sign then khalistanis really lack any serious backing on the ground level, even with all those gurudwaras in foreign countries still they didn't seem to be able to get any significant support it's not like they could actually do something with their meme referendum. Do we really need to go out of our way to attack them in a third country and sour the relationship and possibly give them validation? Seems pretty counterproductive to me, what we need to do is clean our own house first and focus on the Pakistani connection with it, exploit and expose them.

There are many proxies of the organisations you stated operating in India, freeze their bank accounts, send some of them into accidents and make it hell for them to operate or perform any sort of operation in India. Force them to the point of desperation where they will have to take action and make mistakes in the third country where that country will have to take action on them due to their own internal security issues. That's a better way to deal with them.

You don't have to do anything illegal, you neither provide ammo nor have to spend one.

Though people can point about 26th Jan, well that had more to do with Indian political parties backing them and caste politics too. Commies, congis (arthiyas etc. ) backed by of course your obvious elements.

 

[Tshering22]

The slightly opposite view, if the recent 'referendums are any sign then khalistanis really lack any serious backing on the ground level, even with all those gurudwaras in foreign countries still they didn't seem to be able to get any significant support it's not like they could actually do something with their meme referendum. Do we really need to go out of our way to attack them in a third country and sour the relationship and possibly give them validation? Seems pretty counterproductive to me, what we need to do is clean our own house first and focus on the Pakistani connection with it, exploit and expose them.

There are many proxies of the organisations you stated operating in India, freeze their bank accounts, send some of them into accidents and make it hell for them to operate or perform any sort of operation in India. Force them to the point of desperation where they will have to take action and make mistakes in the third country where that country will have to take action on them due to their own internal security issues. That's a better way to deal with them.

You don't have to do anything illegal, you neither provide ammo nor have to spend one.

Though people can point about 26th Jan, well that had more to do with Indian political parties backing them and caste politics too. Commies, congis (arthiyas etc. ) backed by of course your obvious elements.

You suggested the same things I am talking about. But it has to come with some sticks for the said third countries. The Anglophones have a history of housing enemies of the state of whoever it considers a competition. They cultivate these elements and keep them handy while we don't. Even Pakistan that way despite its failure as a state, keeps the West tantalized.

No one is talking about souring relations; all we have to do is offer them a carrot and remind them of the stick. These countries are mercantile; they don't have any ideology and if they see a trade benefit, they will even ignore Adolf Hitler and Shiro Ishi.

This is where the CCP shone; they realized very early in their assessment of the West that they are only concerned with the material benefits that China can give. So it gave that to them; partnerships, cheap goods, profits for their corporations while secretly building heft. It is one thing that the commie idiots revealed their cards a decade early. Had CCP revealed their cards in 2031, it would have been impossible to stop them.

However, we need to keep offering carrots with a stick in the shadows. Yes, there are parties within India that are responsible for the JAN 26 violence, and they will be dealt with but these entities receive lots of money from abroad Khalis through hawala, drug smuggling, etc. The rich Khalis living in UK, USA, etc. fund them. We don't need to decimate our ties with them, but we can remind them that they would gain more by cooperating with us rather than antagonizing us.

 

[Tshering22]

Military capability and War strategy are two different things..

Our western neighbour has 9 billion $ defence budget

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and sends these folks

View attachment 119159

But our civil society is subverted like this

View attachment 119162

Our northern neighbour has 209 billion $ military budget

View attachment 119160

and sends these folks to us..

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Meanwhile attempts being made to subvert our civil society like this

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The founder of this NGO is this Colin Gonsalves; a so-called senior advocate in the Supreme Court. It is very easy to get to this scumbag by a bunch of 'unidentified persons' from the IB. Now, of course, he is a lawyer and a thick-skinned one (one doesn't become an SC lawyer fearing threats). But if random citizens have creative ideas of dealing with this loser, I am pretty sure someone like Doval would have a million.

I just wonder what's stopping Doval from targeting traitors like these. He's a lawyer which means some heft in the civil society, but Doval operates in the world beyond conventional laws & is only #2 to PM Modi in the country. He can do a lot more damage to clowns like these and move them aside without the media being able to do anything about it.

 

[Covfefe]

Chor ki daadhi ka jhopda

Civil society is not the enemy

Aruna Roy writes: NSA Ajit Doval’s theory about 'fourth generation warfare' undermines Constitution, will do great harm to the nation’s security

indianexpress.com

 

[Love Charger]

Chor ki daadhi ka jhopda

Civil society is not the enemy

Aruna Roy writes: NSA Ajit Doval’s theory about 'fourth generation warfare' undermines Constitution, will do great harm to the nation’s security

indianexpress.com

Civil society is the enemy.