Aircraft Crash Notification

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[bhramos]

 

[Super lca]

Their f16 airframes are too old made in the 1980s

 

[mist_consecutive]

This isn't what it seems. The reason for the sudden surge in crashes of the USA is because they have significantly increased their flight hours, possibly they are expecting a full-fledged war in either later this year or early next year with China.

One interesting thing, many aviation enthusiasts may already know it, compared to Russian equipment, American equipment, although are quite refined and high-tech, but lack ruggedness and reliability.

Their jets are a maintenance nightmare, and maintaining high serviceability rates requires a huge amount of manpower (which is absent in COVID times), hence they are suffering.
Russian jets, on the other hand, can be tossed into baking sun, snow, and dirt and will work just fine after a month.

 

[IndianHawk]

This isn't what it seems. The reason for the sudden surge in crashes of the USA is because they have significantly increased their flight hours, possibly they are expecting a full-fledged war in either later this year or early next year with China.

One interesting thing, many aviation enthusiasts may already know it, compared to Russian equipment, American equipment, although are quite refined and high-tech, but lack ruggedness and reliability.

Their jets are a maintenance nightmare, and maintaining high serviceability rates requires a huge amount of manpower (which is absent in COVID times), hence they are suffering.
Russian jets, on the other hand, can be tossed into baking sun, snow, and dirt and will work just fine after a month.

That's only partially true. The most potent reason for crash is engine failure and USA engines are far ahead of Russian in reliability.

Russian engines are so unreliable that Russia doesn't operate any single engine fighter jet while USA uses most of fleet of single engines f16 and now f35.

The only single engine jet on Russian engines are jf17 and j10 both because of lack of options for chi-pork and both are hanger queens with robust crash records and availability rates down the drain.

 

[mist_consecutive]

That's only partially true. The most potent reason for crash is engine failure and USA engines are far ahead of Russian in reliability.

Russian engines are so unreliable that Russia doesn't operate any single engine fighter jet while USA uses most of fleet of single engines f16 and now f35.

The only single engine jet on Russian engines are jf17 and j10 both because of lack of options for chi-pork and both are hanger queens with robust crash records and availability rates down the drain.

Hmm, I wonder if that is the case.

Single-engine vs. double engine doctrine boils down less towards engine reliability, more towards operational doctrine.
Russian doctrine of air to air combat emphasizes mainly upon short-range engagements and dogfights. Reason their air superiority fighters have twin-engines for greater power & T/W ratio, insane maneuverability, and excellent short-range adversary engagement options (R-73 + Sura-K HMS).
Examples - Mig-29/35, Su-27/30/35, Mig-25/31.

Russians did operate single-engine jets, where they think power is not an issue, for example, the Mig-23/27 series.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia didn't really pay much attention to developing and refining their tech. The reason their engines are still inefficient and smoky but work nonetheless.

Also, at the same time, America and NATO focused upon jets that preserve energy and hence require less acceleration. Their doctrine is towards BVR engagement and minimal WVR & close-range engagement as last resort. Reason in the recent F-35 project, they completely ditched maneuvrability and rather focused upon BVR, situational awareness, and electronic warfare.

To understand the difference between American and Russian jets, take an example of Tesla vs. Ford. While Tesla is obviously superior in performance, it requires daily charging, charging stations, perfect roads for its low ground clearance, timely software updates, and many others.
Ford pickup can be lying in your garage for a year and will still start and run on your first try. It isn't superior to Tesla, but it gets the job done.

Russian engines are so unreliable that Russia doesn't operate any single engine fighter jet while USA uses most of fleet of single engines f16 and now f35.

Fun fact, even though F-16 can hold it's own in air combat, USAF treats them as multirole "bombers", while twin-engined F-15s and F-22s (if available) are used for air superiority.

Regarding the engine, yes, the turbine engine is actually a very critical technology and quite difficult to master. It requires a huge amount of R&D and most of the core technologies are kept secret.
Reason countries like China, Japan, India, and Turkey, although having talent and money required for creating such key-technology, has yet to master the efficiency and sophistication of Turbine engines created by NATO companies, like Pratt & Whitney, Rolce-Royce, Sneccma, and General Electric, who are developing such engines for last 70 years.

 

[IndianHawk]

Russians did operate single-engine jets, where they think power is not an issue, for example, the Mig-23/27 series

Was a different era . Everyone had shitty jets with shitty engines they all crashed.

Russian doctrine of air to air combat emphasizes mainly upon short-range engagements and dogfights. Reason their air superiority fighters have twin-engines for greater power & T/W ratio, insane maneuverability, and excellent short-range adversary engagement options (R-73 + Sura-K HMS).
Examples - Mig-29/35, Su-27/30/35, Mig-25/31.

If that is true why would they even need mig29/35 ??
Wouldn't su27/30/35 would be enough.

Fact is mig29/35 are their low expense light weight fighters. Mig29 has very short legs almost equal to lca mk1 ( now upg has given some room but twr is down ).

Also mig25 and mig31 are not built for dog fight but for high altitude surveillance and very fast interception.

Su30 series evolved with giant bars radar to be able to better engage in bvr domain as Russian realise dog fighting is only useful if you survive bvr. That is also why Russian use very heavy jammers .

Mig35 has same dimensions and more thrust than rafale and yet it falls short on both range and payload and not guaranteed to succeed in dog fight either .

Russian have been left behind in time . There engines need too much maintenance compared to Western once. Components need frequent change. And jets demand more overhaul compared to Western counterparts.

Mig29k needs way more work after each landing as compared to rafale m or f18 .

 

[ARVION]

Was a different era . Everyone had shitty jets with shitty engines they all crashed.


If that is true why would they even need mig29/35 ??
Wouldn't su27/30/35 would be enough.

Fact is mig29/35 are their low expense light weight fighters. Mig29 has very short legs almost equal to lca mk1 ( now upg has given some room but twr is down ).

Also mig25 and mig31 are not built for dog fight but for high altitude surveillance and very fast interception.

Su30 series evolved with giant bars radar to be able to better engage in bvr domain as Russian realise dog fighting is only useful if you survive bvr. That is also why Russian use very heavy jammers .

Mig35 has same dimensions and more thrust than rafale and yet it falls short on both range and payload and not guaranteed to succeed in dog fight either .

Russian have been left behind in time . There engines need too much maintenance compared to Western once. Components need frequent change. And jets demand more overhaul compared to Western counterparts.

Mig29k needs way more work after each landing as compared to rafale m or f18 .

But the MIG 31 is a magnificent machine's.

 

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[bhramos]

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Does anybody know locations of 12 Su30 crashes?

 

[vampyrbladez]

Does anybody know locations of 12 Su30 crashes?

That is something a Pakistani would ask.............. Especially the fake number '12'. The number is '11' from 2009.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Database/Accidents/listing.php?qacid=74&qt=TY

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

fake number '12

this is exactly what a paki would say
Media constantly reported 12 crashed and 12 is being bought. Pakis are running a campaign saying the 12th one was the feb one. A paki was arguing with me with some screen shots. I'm looking for ammo

 

[vampyrbladez]

this is exactly what a paki would say
Media constantly reported 12 crashed and 12 is being bought. Pakis are running a campaign saying the 12th one was the feb one. A paki was arguing with me with some screen shots. I'm looking for ammo

The number is 11.

 

[bhramos]

Rumors in Russia: India shot down Chinese Z-9 Helicopter, it crashed inside Indian Border
Chinese claim crashed due to unknown reasons, but fell inside Indian Border

 

[daya]

Rumors in Russia: India shot down Chinese Z-9 Helicopter, it crashed inside Indian Border
Chinese claim crashed due to unknown reasons, but fell inside Indian Border

Hope this rumour turns to be true...

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Hope this rumour turns to be true...

Technical Glitch bro no shooting down this time

 

[bhramos]

 

[Tupac slayer]

That's only partially true. The most potent reason for crash is engine failure and USA engines are far ahead of Russian in reliability.

Russian engines are so unreliable that Russia doesn't operate any single engine fighter jet while USA uses most of fleet of single engines f16 and now f35.

The only single engine jet on Russian engines are jf17 and j10 both because of lack of options for chi-pork and both are hanger queens with robust crash records and availability rates down the drain.

You mean to say JF-17 Thunder is a hangar Queen, I dont want to comment about J-10 since I am not aware of it, JF-17 Thunder is bread and butter of Pakistan Airforce.