Remember the time when a US stealth bomber was shot down through some accurate observations of its flight path.You might be correct, this might be a ploy to give them a false sense of superiority. I have read about Chinese Nuclear Subs being Noisy, dont know much about their Diesel Subs. Heard they got AIP now, someone shed some light?
Then, we recently heard the IN Submarine trailing the Chinese Destroyer. Why is the Chinese Navy in conflict with other navies? Isnt it just a Press Job? I feel its just Propoganda, to show to the poor ill informed people that their Country can Take on USA and India anytime, anywhere!
The Chinese subs, as far as my knowledge is concerned, is not that great a piece of tech.
Nitesh, Relaxed Posture means, they were operating in International Waters, in Peace Time. No Intel on Hostility or Possibile Hostile Elements recieved.ahmed I am only contesting the point raised that USN was in "relaxed posture". What exactly does this word mean? Does it mean navy was not interested in security of carrier!
So this means when you are in international waters in peace time any body can stalk you and record your acoustic signatures? Wherever carrier is operating there is a no fly zone. This is not convincing enough. Definitely Americans were caught off guard.Nitesh, Relaxed Posture means, they were operating in International Waters, in Peace Time. No Intel on Hostility or Possibile Hostile Elements recieved.
No Fly zone, is only when the carrier is in harbour or on port calls I think, especially after 9/11 and the USS cole incident, security is tight when on port calls. But while on International waters, in peacetime they aint that careful, and this is the typical American lax attitude, which cost them dearly in Pearl Harbour.So this means when you are in international waters in peace time any body can stalk you and record your acoustic signatures? Wherever carrier is operating there is a no fly zone. This is not convincing enough. Definitely Americans were caught off guard.
So in your view should they have all systems active all the time?So this means when you are in international waters in peace time any body can stalk you and record your acoustic signatures? Wherever carrier is operating there is a no fly zone. This is not convincing enough. Definitely Americans were caught off guard.
American lax attitude is there problem why we should give them brownie point for that.No Fly zone, is only when the carrier is in harbour or on port calls I think, especially after 9/11 and the USS cole incident, security is tight when on port calls. But while on International waters, in peacetime they aint that careful, and this is the typical American lax attitude, which cost them dearly in Pearl Harbour.
One more thing, What if the US were picking on the chinese sonar? I mean what if they were studying it and then made the chinese think they are great etc! We all know chinese subs are being closely monitored by USA, especially their submarine pens, and US would love to hear out their subs. Isnt this a possibiilty? The US wont loose anything with the Media reporting "CHinese Subs Stalk Kitty Hawk" or "Chinese Subs the Greatest" etc. They got a chance to study the chinese subs ways and they kept their mouth shut, while the chinese went yapping around. Couldnt this be possible?
Agree with you shiny, but getting too near is dangerous. I hope we agree to this point.So in your view should they have all systems active all the time?
Anyway as I already pointed out even if the sub fired it would have achieved nothing but it's own demise.
Two U.S. Navy vessels collide in Strait of Hormuz; submarine USS Hartford rams into USS New OrleansTwo U.S. Navy vessels - a nuclear-powered submarine and an amphibious ship - collided during the early morning hours Friday in the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and the Arabian peninsula, the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet reported.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641305007Tuesday February 12, 2008
American fighter jets have been scrambled after Russian bombers buzzed a US aircraft carrier in the western Pacific.
The alert was sparked when two Tu-95 Bear bombers flew within 500 miles of the USS Nimitz.
Four American FA-18 fighters were scrambled and tracked the strategic bombers.
One of the Russian planes remained around 50 miles away, but the other buzzed the carrier twice at an altitude of 2,000ft.
The americans want the best in tech and they will play themselves down to get it through congress. Nations like China fall into this and stop innovating and making new tech thinking they are already Superior to US! Their Mistake.American lax attitude is there problem why we should give them brownie point for that.
But yes I agree this might be American propaganda to make US congress cough up more money for defense.
AFAIK, the sub didn't stalk the carrier. It just happened to be sitting at the place. It was waiting in place so to speak and that is why it never got detected.And a Chinese sub got there unnoticed through all that? I think the US sucked that boat into a a false sense of superiority.
lol it doesnt work that way Yusufji, lots of procedures before a torpedo launch. The launch would have been detected, and countermeasures activated, unless the system was turned off, which i term Unlikely. The US is not as Lax as the Israeli Navy which had turned this feature off, and their Destroyer was nearly sunk by a Hezbollah AS Missile in 2006.I wonder what would have happened if someone by mistake pressed the torpedo tube hatch on that Chinese sub while it was parked in the place waiting for the carrier?
How deep is the South China Sea?
Arre no bhai. I was talking about the Americans detecting the torp tube hatch opening and send the Chinese to the bottom. That would have been fun.lol it doesnt work that way Yusufji, lots of procedures before a torpedo launch. The launch would have been detected, and countermeasures activated, unless the system was turned off, which i term Unlikely. The US is not as Lax as the Israeli Navy which had turned this feature off, and their Destroyer was nearly sunk by a Hezbollah AS Missile in 2006.
Around hundred and fifty people drowning in the ocean due to a single idiot's mistake is not funny in my highest opinion. Sorry.Arre no bhai. I was talking about the Americans detecting the torp tube hatch opening and send the Chinese to the bottom. That would have been fun.