Air Combat in Syria

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More punishment and destruction from VKS :)
 
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I am happy for all you pro-Russian guys out there, is this first time since what? Korean War? When you can feel proud of Russian air force contribution on world stage. I must admit that Putin plays the hand he has quite sillfully.

 

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I am happy for all you pro-Russian guys out there, is this first time since what? Korean War? When you can feel proud of Russian air force contribution on world stage. I must admit that Putin plays the hand he has quite sillfully.

Us lost air war in Vietnam.

Indo Pak wars as well

Finland, known for drunk suicidal behavior correct?
 

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That and 20:1 kill ratio against RedArmy Air Force.
In ww2, be honest if cold war had gone hot you would have been rolled by tanks.

You don't have the demographic strength to fight let alone any other. Past victories are ok to religh in, if you have the strength to grab future.

But w.e you probably speaking through vodka.
 

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In ww2, be honest if cold war had gone hot you would have been rolled by tanks.

You don't have the demographic strength to fight let alone any other. Past victories are ok to religh in, if you have the strength to grab future.

But w.e you probably speaking through vodka.
I respect Youttilainen Finnish ace, like a Mannerghaime marshall as well.
But they were minority of those Finns who fought the war.
 

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In ww2, be honest if cold war had gone hot you would have been rolled by tanks.

You don't have the demographic strength to fight let alone any other. Past victories are ok to religh in, if you have the strength to grab future.

But w.e you probably speaking through vodka.
Like they rolled us with tanks in '39 and '44....LOL. How about now? It has been pretty quiet on this border compared to all other Russian borders....
 

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@jouni, peacefull borders with Finlandia doesn't depend on your army or strengths or something of this type.
Trade, tourism and shipbuilding is lucrative and pleasant warranty of peace more than anything else.
Finnish border is not a source of troubles for Russia, and Russians appreciate this much.
 

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I respect Youttilainen Finnish ace, like a Mannerghaime marshall as well.
But they were minority of those Finns who fought the war.[/QUOTE
@jouni, peacefull borders with Finlandia doesn't depend on your army or strengths or something of this type.
Trade, tourism and shipbuilding is lucrative and pleasant warranty of peace more than anything else.
Finnish border is not a source of troubles for Russia, and Russians appreciate this much.
Yes and this peace was paid by the blood of our grandfathers ( both Russian and Finns ). It is also much easier to build good relations when there is no conquerors and conquered. No occupiers and occupied. We also appreciate our Russian neighbors and are friends with them. Even when we are against actions of current Russian politics.
 

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Yes and this peace was paid by the blood of our grandfathers ( both Russian and Finns ). It is also much easier to build good relations when there is no conquerors and conquered. No occupiers and occupied. We also appreciate our Russian neighbors and are friends with them. Even when we are against actions of current Russian politics.
You don't even know, how you are right! :)
Finland was a part of Russian Empire with widest authonomy among the others.
Finnish soldiers had found much glory serving the Emperor and making friendship and respect among Russians.
Even Mannergheim was Russian Army general, very respected one.
So, when I've tould you about Stalins decisions about Finland, I've beared in mind Stalins respect to Mannergheim for his position and actions before, during and after the Winter War. Mannergheim didn't allowed Germans to approach Leningrad through Finnish positions to cut one of the Life Roads to blocked city, which had saved thousands of lives. Stalin didn't allowed full-scale bombing of Helsinki and havent reintegrated Finland into USSR in return.
This costs much for both countries.

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About the plane in Turkish air space:

And GoPro under Su-24M2 belly:
 

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Murad Gazdiyev is a fine reporter for RT. He also went to Russia's arctic to report how Russia was setting up the arctic command. Unfortunately, a lot of nice videos do not show up in Google because they are posted in Cyrillic. RT does a good job of presenting in English, much better than Russia's traditionally official mouthpiece, TASS.

Thanks for the videos.
 
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SU-30SM Vs F-16
Russian Su-30SMTurkish airspace. Flanker locks on TuAF F-16 for +5 minutes

Russian planes deployed to Syria violated the Turkish airspace twice in the last couple of days.

According to NATO, the violations occurred “on 3 October and 4 October by Russian Air Force SU-30 and SU-24 aircraft in the Hatay region. The aircraft in question entered Turkish airspace despite Turkish authorities’ clear, timely and repeated warnings. In accordance with NATO practice, Turkish fighter aircraft responded to these incursions by closing to identify the intruder, after which the Russian planes departed Turkish airspace.”

Some more (sometimes contradictory) details appeared on the Turkish media outlets: although the first reports said the aircraft (initially IDed as Mig-29 Fulcrums – a type flown by the Syrian Air Force and not deployed in theater by the RuAF) breached into the Turkish airspace for 5 miles, according to Ankara, the Russian Su-30SM multirole plane violated Tukey’s airspace by “only” some hundreds of meters and returned to Syria after it was intercepted by two F-16s from the Turkish Air Force out of 10 flying CAP (Combat Air Patrol) near the border.



Furthermore, it seems that the Russian Su-30SM (as said, initially referred to as a Mig-29, before it was determined it was a Flanker-derivative multirole jet) maintained a radar lock on one or both the F-16s for a full 5 minutes and 40 seconds.

According the Russians, the violation was due to a “navigation error”: quite funny considered the type of navigation systems equipping a modern Su-30SM.

Although the navigation error can’t never be ruled out a priori, considering the equipment carried by a 4++ Gen. aircraft, and that it was flying next to a “danger zone” there’s reason to believe that the two pilots on board were perfectly aware of their position.

What is even more weird is the fact that the Russian plane locked the Turkish F-16s for such a long time: instead of turning back the RuAF Sukhoi was ready to fire (or to respond to fire).

Almot no details are currently available about the Su-24 Fencer violation.

As explained when a Turkish RF-4 was shot down by a Syrian coastal anti-aircraft battery after violating the Syrian airspace in 2012, aircraft entering a foreign airspace should not be fired upon but warned, intercepted and eventually escorted outside the violated airspace.

In 2014, a Syrian Mi-17 was shot down by a TuAF F-16, while in 2013 it was the turn of a Syrian Mig-23. But now the Turkish F-16s defending Ankara borders face a different threat….

TIME TO BRING IN TU-22 BACKFIRE
http://theaviationist.com/2015/10/0...ace-flanker-locks-on-tuaf-f-16-for-5-minutes/
 
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