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Additional 60 Boeing AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopter?
AH-64E Apache attack helicopter
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More halos are coming for army India might go for as 40 apaches
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INDIA IN TALKS FOR MORE APACHE, CHINOOK CHOPPERS: BOEING
F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet fighter has distinct advantages over Rafale-M, says Boeing vice-president Torbjorn Sjogren
The F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet fighter jet has distinct advantages in terms of capability over the competitor French Rafale-M jet to operate from the Indian Navy’s aircraft carriers, said a senior official from aircraft manufacturer Boeing. India is also negotiating the purchase of additional Chinook CH-47F(I) Chinook heavy-lift helicopters and AH-64E Apache attack helicopters, according to Torbjorn (Turbo) Sjogren, vice president, International Government and Defence, Boeing.
“One thing we’re very confident about is the capability that readiness and the proficiency of the product. The F/A-18 and F/A-18F can operate off Indian aircraft carriers. That’s a clear discriminator we’ve got over the French,” Mr. Turbo said in a virtual interview, pointing that the twin seater trainer variant of the Rafale-M cannot operate from carriers and would be sitting on the ground. The number of trainer aircraft within the deal is not an insignificant number, he noted.
Elaborating, he said the size of the carrier, the logistics of the aircraft, in terms of how many aircraft and how to move the aircraft around the carrier, there are challenges. “We have solved that problem. Our team down in Bangalore solved the problem, and we have a solution for that... So there is some tailoring needed, more so in terms of the logistics on board,” Mr. Turbo said.
The Navy had originally projected a requirement of 57 aircraft under the deal, but the number is likely to be revised to 26 with in the backdrop of a new indigenous Twin Engine Carrier Based Deck Fighter being designed and developed indigenously. “We are eager to see when they define what the need is going to be and then how to do it,” he said.
With the indigenous carrier Vikrant set to be commissioned in August, Navy is in urgent need of carrier based jets to operate from both the carriers.
Last month, two Boeing F/A-18s were in Goa to demonstrate their compatibility and suitability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers by conducting trials from the Indian Navy’s Shore Based Test Facility (SBTF). Rafale-M had carried out similar demonstration earlier this year.
Indian Air Force operates 22 Apache attack helicopters and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters procured from Boeing through the Foreign Military Sales programme of the U.S. government under a $3 billion deal in September 2015. Further, during the visit of U.S. President Donald Trump to India in February 2020, India signed a deal for six more Apaches to cost around $800 million to be operated by the Army.
On other deal, Mr. Turbo said discussions are on for an additional seven Chinook helicopters, Mr. Turbo said. “Army is looking for more Apaches and IAF is looking for more Chinooks.”
The Navy operates 12 P-8I long range maritime aircraft procured Boeing in two batches. Another case for six more P-8I aircraft for which Defence Ministry has given initial approval has been delayed with the government’s review of all direct imports.
There is currently significant amount of interest worldwide for the P-8Is and they are in negotiations with several countries in India’s neighbourhood, New Zealand, Australia and some Southeast Asian countries. However, Mr. Turbo cautioned that at some point in time, if they do not have enough orders, the assembly lines would be shut giving the example of the C-17 transport aircraft for which there is renewed worldwide but the lines have been long shut. “We’re not there yet, but I mean, that’s a reality. The C-17s are a great example,” Mr. Turbo said.
Without giving a specific timeline for such a scenario, he said the Indian Navy and the U.S. Navy are well aware of what that timeline is.
Talking of the large portfolio of products with the Indian armed forces, Mr. Turbo said, “The performance of our products, and the teams that support our products, I think, is instrumental in terms of those campaigns going forward.” He further stated that as part of this, they are also leveraging local capability and self-reliance and so there is a major focus and also an opportunity for “Boeing to utilize India more than we’re doing today.”
For instance, he said all the Apache fuselage worldwide are built at their Joint venture with TATA Group in Hyderabad. “There’s a lot of interest in the Apache right now. Australia, Poland, Romania, a lot of European countries, as every one of those fuselages are going to be manufactured there,” Mr. Turbo said adding the 1,100 suppliers, sub-suppliers that are supporting Tata are obviously critical in that regard.
Boeing is also in the race for the IAF’s tender for 114 jets pitching in its F-15EX as well the F-18 fighters.
www.indiandefensenews.in
F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet fighter has distinct advantages over Rafale-M, says Boeing vice-president Torbjorn Sjogren
The F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet fighter jet has distinct advantages in terms of capability over the competitor French Rafale-M jet to operate from the Indian Navy’s aircraft carriers, said a senior official from aircraft manufacturer Boeing. India is also negotiating the purchase of additional Chinook CH-47F(I) Chinook heavy-lift helicopters and AH-64E Apache attack helicopters, according to Torbjorn (Turbo) Sjogren, vice president, International Government and Defence, Boeing.
“One thing we’re very confident about is the capability that readiness and the proficiency of the product. The F/A-18 and F/A-18F can operate off Indian aircraft carriers. That’s a clear discriminator we’ve got over the French,” Mr. Turbo said in a virtual interview, pointing that the twin seater trainer variant of the Rafale-M cannot operate from carriers and would be sitting on the ground. The number of trainer aircraft within the deal is not an insignificant number, he noted.
Elaborating, he said the size of the carrier, the logistics of the aircraft, in terms of how many aircraft and how to move the aircraft around the carrier, there are challenges. “We have solved that problem. Our team down in Bangalore solved the problem, and we have a solution for that... So there is some tailoring needed, more so in terms of the logistics on board,” Mr. Turbo said.
The Navy had originally projected a requirement of 57 aircraft under the deal, but the number is likely to be revised to 26 with in the backdrop of a new indigenous Twin Engine Carrier Based Deck Fighter being designed and developed indigenously. “We are eager to see when they define what the need is going to be and then how to do it,” he said.
With the indigenous carrier Vikrant set to be commissioned in August, Navy is in urgent need of carrier based jets to operate from both the carriers.
Last month, two Boeing F/A-18s were in Goa to demonstrate their compatibility and suitability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers by conducting trials from the Indian Navy’s Shore Based Test Facility (SBTF). Rafale-M had carried out similar demonstration earlier this year.
Indian Air Force operates 22 Apache attack helicopters and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters procured from Boeing through the Foreign Military Sales programme of the U.S. government under a $3 billion deal in September 2015. Further, during the visit of U.S. President Donald Trump to India in February 2020, India signed a deal for six more Apaches to cost around $800 million to be operated by the Army.
On other deal, Mr. Turbo said discussions are on for an additional seven Chinook helicopters, Mr. Turbo said. “Army is looking for more Apaches and IAF is looking for more Chinooks.”
The Navy operates 12 P-8I long range maritime aircraft procured Boeing in two batches. Another case for six more P-8I aircraft for which Defence Ministry has given initial approval has been delayed with the government’s review of all direct imports.
There is currently significant amount of interest worldwide for the P-8Is and they are in negotiations with several countries in India’s neighbourhood, New Zealand, Australia and some Southeast Asian countries. However, Mr. Turbo cautioned that at some point in time, if they do not have enough orders, the assembly lines would be shut giving the example of the C-17 transport aircraft for which there is renewed worldwide but the lines have been long shut. “We’re not there yet, but I mean, that’s a reality. The C-17s are a great example,” Mr. Turbo said.
Without giving a specific timeline for such a scenario, he said the Indian Navy and the U.S. Navy are well aware of what that timeline is.
Talking of the large portfolio of products with the Indian armed forces, Mr. Turbo said, “The performance of our products, and the teams that support our products, I think, is instrumental in terms of those campaigns going forward.” He further stated that as part of this, they are also leveraging local capability and self-reliance and so there is a major focus and also an opportunity for “Boeing to utilize India more than we’re doing today.”
For instance, he said all the Apache fuselage worldwide are built at their Joint venture with TATA Group in Hyderabad. “There’s a lot of interest in the Apache right now. Australia, Poland, Romania, a lot of European countries, as every one of those fuselages are going to be manufactured there,” Mr. Turbo said adding the 1,100 suppliers, sub-suppliers that are supporting Tata are obviously critical in that regard.
Boeing is also in the race for the IAF’s tender for 114 jets pitching in its F-15EX as well the F-18 fighters.
India In Talks For More Apache, Chinook Choppers: Boeing
F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet fighter has distinct advantages over Rafale-M, says Boeing vice-president Torbjorn Sjogren The F/A-18 E/F Super Horn...
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Indian Army to start pilot training on Apache Helicopters in the United States
The Indian Army had placed orders for 6 Boeing Apache attack helicopters in 2020 and as the Army will start receiving the first batch of helicopters from Boeing from 2023, the Indian Army will soon send its pilots and ground crews to the United States in batches for training to operate the Apache attack helicopters.
The Apache helicopters of the Indian Army will have Made in India fuselage manufactured by the TATA Boeing Aerospace Limited facility in Hyderabad.
The Indian Army will also get 180 AGM-114 L3 Hellfire Longbow missiles, 90 AGM-114 R3 Hellfire II missiles, 200 Stinger Block-192H missiles and 30 millimeters cannon ammunition as part of the deal.
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The Indian Army had placed orders for 6 Boeing Apache attack helicopters in 2020 and as the Army will start receiving the first batch of helicopters from Boeing from 2023, the Indian Army will soon send its pilots and ground crews to the United States in batches for training to operate the Apache attack helicopters.
The Apache helicopters of the Indian Army will have Made in India fuselage manufactured by the TATA Boeing Aerospace Limited facility in Hyderabad.
The Indian Army will also get 180 AGM-114 L3 Hellfire Longbow missiles, 90 AGM-114 R3 Hellfire II missiles, 200 Stinger Block-192H missiles and 30 millimeters cannon ammunition as part of the deal.
Indian Army to start pilot training on Apache Helicopters in the United States
Indian Army to start pilot training on Apache Helicopters in the United States
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Indian Air Force APACHE LOADED with HELLFIRES
Indian Air Force APACHE Firing HELLFIRE Missiles
Indian Air Force APACHE Firing HELLFIRE Missiles
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Agreed sir jeeThis is truly an attack helicopter..
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Indian air force with hellfire missile and rockets
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Apaches will be critical in arunanchal region for indian army
Wrong choice..
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Needs to be LCH.
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Any reason?
Its service ceiling.
20,000 mtr is good enough, but not good enough when you have to maintain the climb rate with full battle load continuously at 17,000 or 18,000 mtr.
It would effect its service life and availability rate.
Yeah.
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lch alone cannot fulfill heavy Attack Halo requiment
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LCH doesnt have to fulfil "heavy" requirement. It has to be a complete standalone package and it can take down Pakistani armoured formation without apache.
It can also reach to those mountain peeks in Arunachal Pradesh where Apache can not so it has to have MMW radar in future.
Z-19 appears with MMW radar
The PLA exhibited a Z-19 fitted with a millimetre-wave radar...
www.keymilitary.com
Even chinese have some MMW radar equipped z-19 and LCH MTOW is 1.5T more than puny z-19.
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L in LCH stands for Light.
Where in anyone is saying it would be replacing Heavy category choppers?
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This is why the IA should get hundreds of LCHs while the IAF gets the Apaches.
L in LCH stands for Light.
Where in anyone is saying it would be replacing Heavy category choppers?
IMO, IAF should stay away from all attack choppers and leave the CAS role to army aviation.
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What does that even mean? LCH is specifically designed to fight in the highest altitudes. LCH is the only attack helicopter in the world that has been tested to land at >14,000ft with a weapons load
weight class is not important. Role is
